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East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
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Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Why respond to these losers who are rooting for loser programs? UVM sucks, Union sucks, Quinnipiac sucks and their fan bases suck. PC is going to take this bracket. I'm just glad these losers can't see what I just wrote. It would just make them sad.
By the way Jon my wife is out of town if you want to come over for another backrub. I know you like when daddy.....
Why respond to these losers who are rooting for loser programs? UVM sucks, Union sucks, Quinnipiac sucks and their fan bases suck. PC is going to take this bracket. I'm just glad these losers can't see what I just wrote. It would just make them sad.
By the way Jon my wife is out of town if you want to come over for another backrub. I know you like when daddy.....
Jon
Say, this is nice.
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Shall I wear the purple robes?
(BTW, can I be the bad cop next time? )
Shall I wear the purple robes?
(BTW, can I be the bad cop next time? )
Kdaddy1968
New member
Jon
Say, this is nice.
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
I hear if you mention BC in any thread, Johnny Hockey sends an avatar to smite you with a lightning bolt (that looks like Jerry York's sweater vest).
Just don't mention the Rodents. This mild thread cannot withstand that much arrogance.
Shouldn't that be reserved for the BC thread?
I hear if you mention BC in any thread, Johnny Hockey sends an avatar to smite you with a lightning bolt (that looks like Jerry York's sweater vest).
Just don't mention the Rodents. This mild thread cannot withstand that much arrogance.
FireKnight
Let's go Tech!
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
How did I know this thread was going to end up an HEA v. ECAC fight? I've watched both conferences play a lot this season and let me say that they are different. The HEA does not have the physical teams that the ECAC has, so calling the ECAC conference trip a "grind" is not an inaccurate term. I don't think there's any team in the nation that would want to face Cornell's physical presence one night and then Colgate's speed the next.
With that said, the HEA is not nearly as physical a conference but they have a lot more talent and speed from top to bottom. I think any team in any conference can beat any other team on a given night but I think it holds true more for the HEA than ECAC. Even the top teams have to bring their A or at least a strong B game to win every night. So, to say that the HEA teams are more "battle tested" is also not an inaccurate term.
The one advantage that I'd have to give Union, other than being the best team of this bunch in my opinion, is their versatility. They've had experience against teams based on speed like Colgate and Yale. They've faced teams like SLU that have a top line that could probably be a top line on any team in the country. And finally, they've faced the strong physical teams like Cornell and Clarkson. However, this versatility might help them in Philly eventually, but they're going to have to get past 2 tough squads first.
I was told to check out this thread. And now I'm glad I did.
FWIW, four pretty darn good teams. I have a tough time not seeing Union win this regional, but should be some great matchups. Good luck to all.
How did I know this thread was going to end up an HEA v. ECAC fight? I've watched both conferences play a lot this season and let me say that they are different. The HEA does not have the physical teams that the ECAC has, so calling the ECAC conference trip a "grind" is not an inaccurate term. I don't think there's any team in the nation that would want to face Cornell's physical presence one night and then Colgate's speed the next.
With that said, the HEA is not nearly as physical a conference but they have a lot more talent and speed from top to bottom. I think any team in any conference can beat any other team on a given night but I think it holds true more for the HEA than ECAC. Even the top teams have to bring their A or at least a strong B game to win every night. So, to say that the HEA teams are more "battle tested" is also not an inaccurate term.
The one advantage that I'd have to give Union, other than being the best team of this bunch in my opinion, is their versatility. They've had experience against teams based on speed like Colgate and Yale. They've faced teams like SLU that have a top line that could probably be a top line on any team in the country. And finally, they've faced the strong physical teams like Cornell and Clarkson. However, this versatility might help them in Philly eventually, but they're going to have to get past 2 tough squads first.
jcarter7669
Registered User
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Why? I never made the assertion that HE is a super conference or that the ECAC is an inferior league. You posed the question, now go ahead and enlighten us all. How is it possible for a super conference to only win 22 out of 50 games against an inferior league? I'm going to guess and say its because BU and Merrimack suck and combined for 7 losses otherwise they would have won 29... but you feel free to give me your take on it.
Regardless it's not of importance, since there aren't 12 ecac and 11 HE teams in this regional... and it has nothing to do with who has the more competitive schedule.
Why? I never made the assertion that HE is a super conference or that the ECAC is an inferior league. You posed the question, now go ahead and enlighten us all. How is it possible for a super conference to only win 22 out of 50 games against an inferior league? I'm going to guess and say its because BU and Merrimack suck and combined for 7 losses otherwise they would have won 29... but you feel free to give me your take on it.
Regardless it's not of importance, since there aren't 12 ecac and 11 HE teams in this regional... and it has nothing to do with who has the more competitive schedule.
UnionHockeyManiac
Union Hockey fan for life
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Maybe we should discuss the games this weekend. I don't know much about UVM hockey. What are their strengths? What are their weaknesses? Who are the players to watch?
Maybe we should discuss the games this weekend. I don't know much about UVM hockey. What are their strengths? What are their weaknesses? Who are the players to watch?
jcarter7669
Registered User
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Umm... Vermont has had experience against teams based on speed like Colgate and Yale (and BC and ND) and the have faced teams like SLU that have a superior top line (SLU twice as well as the best top line in hockey in BC) and they have faced strong physical teams like Clarkson.
Umm... Vermont has had experience against teams based on speed like Colgate and Yale (and BC and ND) and the have faced teams like SLU that have a superior top line (SLU twice as well as the best top line in hockey in BC) and they have faced strong physical teams like Clarkson.
jcarter7669
Registered User
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
They have no strengths, only weaknesses and you shouldn't watch for anyone. They are overrated and should be taken lightly.
They have no strengths, only weaknesses and you shouldn't watch for anyone.
They are overrated and should be taken lightly.Kdaddy1968
New member
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Being physical is one area I think UVM could keep up. Walls and Brickley in particular would do well in a game where the whistle is put away.
I still go with Brickley (and Hamilton) as the wildcards. A good game from both of them and UVM comes out. If Hamilton doesn't play well then we have issues.
Being physical is one area I think UVM could keep up. Walls and Brickley in particular would do well in a game where the whistle is put away.
I still go with Brickley (and Hamilton) as the wildcards. A good game from both of them and UVM comes out. If Hamilton doesn't play well then we have issues.
jcarter7669
Registered User
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Weaknesses... power play, in fact if they go on the power play Sneddon will just send out the first line...
Strengths ... PK which was at one time in the top 2-3 in the country but has fallen lately
Players to watch:
Hoffman (G) 2.01 GAA 0.927 sv%
McCarthy (F) 16-24-40
Puskarich (F) 19-16-35
Paliotta (D) 5-22-27 with 49 pm
Weaknesses... power play, in fact if they go on the power play Sneddon will just send out the first line...
Strengths ... PK which was at one time in the top 2-3 in the country but has fallen lately
Players to watch:
Hoffman (G) 2.01 GAA 0.927 sv%
McCarthy (F) 16-24-40
Puskarich (F) 19-16-35
Paliotta (D) 5-22-27 with 49 pm
FireKnight
Let's go Tech!
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
I wasn't saying that Vermont didn't; I just think that Union's week in and week out preparation is a lot different. I think the HEA teams are all pretty similar in styles of play, more pro-style than most college teams. However, since you brought up the Catamount Cup, I think that the Clarkson game was one where UVM was really frustrated and came out with a win only because Clarkson didn't come out playing their brand of hockey early. The UVM offense was pretty well bottled up by the Knights and the Knights were able to force mistakes. The difference in that game was between the pipes, with Hoffman (apologize in advance if I got the name wrong), stopping a number of grade A chances and also Clarkson turning a lot of grade A chances into shots right into the goaltender's chest.
I'm not discounting the Cats, I think they have every chance to win the game (although I'd really love to not hear that "Go Cats Go" chant on the second night of the regional and I still get a little sick to my stomach watching St. Louis play for the Rangers).
I wasn't saying that Vermont didn't; I just think that Union's week in and week out preparation is a lot different. I think the HEA teams are all pretty similar in styles of play, more pro-style than most college teams. However, since you brought up the Catamount Cup, I think that the Clarkson game was one where UVM was really frustrated and came out with a win only because Clarkson didn't come out playing their brand of hockey early. The UVM offense was pretty well bottled up by the Knights and the Knights were able to force mistakes. The difference in that game was between the pipes, with Hoffman (apologize in advance if I got the name wrong), stopping a number of grade A chances and also Clarkson turning a lot of grade A chances into shots right into the goaltender's chest.
I'm not discounting the Cats, I think they have every chance to win the game (although I'd really love to not hear that "Go Cats Go" chant on the second night of the regional and I still get a little sick to my stomach watching St. Louis play for the Rangers).
I feel like you guys should have gotten a better arena for hockey. Too small, no bathrooms and no concessions to speak of. Better than Merrimack though.
Kdaddy1968
New member
When they build a new Gutt it will hold much more than 3,400 and will have more than one tiny concession area. The TD Bank just feels old and gets too crowded near the bathroom/concession area. I do think its a nice place to watch the actual hockey game though.
jcarter7669
Registered User
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
Well how can it be and advantage for Union if other teams have also faced the same situation? Is it an advantage for Quinny too? Can it really be an advantage if it applies to all the teams?
There has never been a more untrue statement. UML and UNH are so totally on the opposite sides of the spectrum it's not funny. UNH is usually your high powered offensive taking advantage of their larger ice surface. UML is an extremely defensive team. MC has neither offense or defense and play a real physical game. PC is a pretty defensive minded team, BC has the most potent offensive game in the country.
Well how can it be and advantage for Union if other teams have also faced the same situation? Is it an advantage for Quinny too? Can it really be an advantage if it applies to all the teams?
There has never been a more untrue statement. UML and UNH are so totally on the opposite sides of the spectrum it's not funny. UNH is usually your high powered offensive taking advantage of their larger ice surface. UML is an extremely defensive team. MC has neither offense or defense and play a real physical game. PC is a pretty defensive minded team, BC has the most potent offensive game in the country.
FireKnight
Let's go Tech!
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence
I've seen Lowell play 3 times this year and I don't think they're a physical team at all. I think they might be more defensive-minded but they still play more of a pro style game and pro-style offense. The same goes for the Friars. Merrimack, I'll admit, I haven't seen at all this year.
I've seen Lowell play 3 times this year and I don't think they're a physical team at all. I think they might be more defensive-minded but they still play more of a pro style game and pro-style offense. The same goes for the Friars. Merrimack, I'll admit, I haven't seen at all this year.