If you believe electing them didn't make a difference, then I'm sorry, I can't help you.
Enjoy reveling in your 'woe is me, we're all doomed' fatalism. Both sides are the same, amirite?
Trust me rufus I dont want or need your help. I might as well beg Rover to come back and give me advice...
And no, I will 100% say electing them did not help in the long run. Free Trade under Clinton lost the Blue Collar worker for the Dems (not to mention millions of jobs) and Obama gave us a Heritage Fund backed health care plan and drone murders aplenty. Not to mention society backlashed so hard against Obama we got fucking Trump. Not to mention the Clinton stink still infests this party to this day. (something I know Kepler hates) And after Clinton we got Dubya who despite being a coked out failson convinced half the country he was bringing honor and faith back to the White House not fucking interns and wagging the dog in hopes of not getting Impeached.
I can go on...Clinton's deregulations were a major factor in the 2008 Crisis. Obama put people in charge post crash that were complicit in causing it but made sure we traded in our older cars so we could go into debt buying new ones. Both of them ran on being youthful and to the Left and both ran to the center so hard Carl Lewis couldn't catch them.
But lets table that for now since apparently it was Camelot and I just forgot:
If the Dems are so great, if everything they do is so pure and wonderful and is second only to sex as the greatest thing on God's Green Earth...what does it say that half the time even their own voters don't seem to agree? I know you will say "cause people are stupid" but are they only stupid half the time? Are some stupid and others too pious? Or is it possible that people can't square certain pegs?
Here is the thing, despite what Kep sees to think I am not saying the parties are the same. They aren't. That would be intellectually dishonest. But let me tell you that as someone who grew up lower class (and Jewish so yikes) I see the performative BS and don't pay it much mind. Even my father, who was a hardcore Dem and was almost a delegate for Clinton in 1992 never took any of their ideas very seriously because he knew then what everyone knows now...they don't care about us except one day every couple years. Unless you have money or influence the Dems will use lots of rhetoric then turn the other way as soon as you pay the toll. Before the internet you could get away with that...but now when we know every vote every Senator makes it rings hollow.
But to answer my earlier question...the answer is the Dems dont do anything to ever earn people's votes. They think it is their birthright that certain people vote for them. We were all playing along with it because, as was said earlier, degrees of difference. We all subscribe to the theory that 50% > 0% and on its face that is true...when it isn't your ox getting gored. But if you were a Trans Person 50% is still failing and there is no guarantee you will even get 50% if certain people are in charge. It also doesn't help that the Dems spent 2022 and 2024 caring more about courting the White Suburban Vote than it didn't actually
I will tell you that I think the real reason my thinking is different than yours is you think we can incrementally get where we need to go and I don't. I
did until last year. Harris wins and not much really great happens, mostly nothing changes but we at least are doing enough to keep momentum going. The second Trump took office that changed. A lot of the things he destroyed are going to take multiple terms to fix...and that isn't even talking about the economy or social norms. You guys are acting like we are at the beginning of the semester and we can afford some missteps still because if we can just turn things around we can get above 70% and "C's get degrees!". I believe we are much later in the semester and we can't just halfass our way anymore. We either crush the final or we are in serious trouble.
That may make me a whiner...or whatever other insult you want to tbrow my way and that's fine. Truth is I don't see why any of you cats if Trump couldn't turn Minnesota Blue MTG or Vance won't. My vote is worthless.
[Fwiw I don't think Gavin will be the nominee anyways...I think Third Way/Abundance goes down in flames]
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