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Dr. Clayton Forrester's Science Roundup

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WisconsinWildcard said:
Honestly, John Oliver gave an excellent 15 minute rundown of the main thesis of Ben Goldacre's book. It was so close, I would highly doubt they did not read the book beforehand.
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Oliver's pieces, and maybe Vice, are the closest most of us are getting to real journalism anymore.
 
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Hasn't this asinine "resrarch" been researched hundreds if times already?
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
You forgot the quotation marks. :p

Also feel free to point out where he is using second or third hand information to establish a case against strong scientific concordance.
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I thought you claimed I wasn't using any information at all? Make up your mind how you want to complain about me! :p
 
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Kepler said:
It did. I have found that by substituting the word "truth" for the word "God," the catechism becomes an adequate plan for living. Sure beats most of the competing doctrines, anyway.

I would like to think that in their heart of hearts back at the Vatican, they figured out hundreds of years ago that there is no God, and they're just doing the best they can for us with what they've got. That would raise them in my mind inestimably.

We've got science to tell us what's true, but we need some sort of philosophy to tell us what to do once we know it. Strip the jejune god stuff off Catholicism and you've got a decent code to live by.
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May I refer you to John 14:6 -- Jesus said ... "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
 
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The Sicatoka said:
May I refer you to John 14:6 -- Jesus said ... "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
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Whenever a person claims to have The Truth, or worse yet claims to be The Truth, I start wondering what flavor of cool-aid they'll be serving.

I would 1000x rather believe, and associate with, people who are seeking truth rather than claiming to dispense it.
 
LynahFan said:
Whenever a person claims to have The Truth, or worse yet claims to be The Truth, I start wondering what flavor of cool-aid they'll be serving.

I would 1000x rather believe, and associate with, people who are seeking truth rather than claiming to dispense it.
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At the time there were lots of people dispensing what they thought was the truth. Jesus was just the one people ended up following. Had some guy named Roger been picked, we'd be arguing over his words.
 
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"Roger" and his "truth" didn't pass the internalization test of the listeners the way Jesus' did.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
At the time there were lots of people dispensing what they thought was the truth. Jesus was just the one people ended up following. Had some guy named Roger been picked, we'd be arguing over his words.
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Brian.

1) There were pre-op transsexuals during Biblical times. They were called Loretta.
2) Some Romans were very exacting in their graffiti messages. Other Romans would just punish you regardless. Seems a bit inconsistent.
 
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LynahFan said:
Terrible logic. The Romans were not his target audience.
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:confused: Isn't the whole point of Christ and the New Testament to preach salvation "in all nations" and "unto all the world" rather than just the chosen few Jews? How is Rome not part of "all nations"?
 
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geezer said:
:confused: Isn't the whole point of Christ and the New Testament to preach salvation "in all nations" and "unto all the world" rather than just the chosen few Jews? How is Rome not part of "all nations"?
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The last we hear from the Apostle Paul in the Bible, he's in Rome, and has been there for a good while.
 
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geezer said:
:confused: Isn't the whole point of Christ and the New Testament to preach salvation "in all nations" and "unto all the world" rather than just the chosen few Jews? How is Rome not part of "all nations"?
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We'll never know whether that was Jesus or apostles with an agenda. The idea is Christ's sacrifice obviates the need to observe the Jewish law -- thereafter all the scorekeeping is done and you just need to have Christ in your heart. But that was also the way the apostles sold the new creed to a Hellene ruling class that wasn't about the observe Jewish law. Jesus' mission takes place prior to the crucifixion, and it's about prosaic stuff like loving your enemies.

tl;dr: Jesus isn't Christ until the apostolic rewrite 30 or 40 years after the fact.
 
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