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Division III 2015-16 Schedules

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Does anyone from the WIAC go east of Point?
With the budget cuts going on in the WI system, can't blame them. They (UWRF) don't need to travel that far with at least 6 institutions with 50 minutes of them.
 
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Stevens Point has in the past, both men and women. Eau Claire has been in our barn a few times as well, both men and women. I'm not sure anyone at River Falls possesses a map of the United States that includes Michigan in it. A few years ago, before the WIAC schools took their pucks and went home, Adrian had a conference schedule where they had 6 home games and 14 on the road. I could maybe understand 8 home, 12 away, but to have 2/3 of your conference games on the road is ridiculous. Needless to say, UWRF didn't make an appearance in Arrington.

Here. It was 3 seasons ago now

Any way you slice it, that's a crock of crap. And if you don't agree, let's do it to your school instead and see how fun it is. If you want to give us a home-and-home, or something somewhat reasonable, like Stevens Point and UWEC have in the past, then fine. God knows we're not afraid to get on the bus and go for a ride ourselves, and we don't have a problem returning the favor to teams that come here. But if any school doesn't ever want to come here, and insist on us coming there all the time, they can take their program and shove it in their ***. I'd rather not play them at all if it's going to be like that. Utica's men's team thinks that's a bit much.
 
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Hammer said:
Stevens Point has in the past, both men and women. Eau Claire has been in our barn a few times as well, both men and women. I'm not sure anyone at River Falls possesses a map of the United States that includes Michigan in it. A few years ago, before the WIAC schools took their pucks and went home, Adrian had a conference schedule where they had 6 home games and 14 on the road. I could maybe understand 8 home, 12 away, but to have 2/3 of your conference games on the road is ridiculous. Needless to say, UWRF didn't make an appearance in Arrington.

Here. It was 3 seasons ago now

Any way you slice it, that's a crock of crap. And if you don't agree, let's do it to your school instead and see how fun it is. If you want to give us a home-and-home, or something somewhat reasonable, like Stevens Point and UWEC have in the past, then fine. God knows we're not afraid to get on the bus and go for a ride ourselves, and we don't have a problem returning the favor to teams that come here. But if any school doesn't ever want to come here, and insist on us coming there all the time, they can take their program and shove it in their ***. I'd rather not play them at all if it's going to be like that. Utica's men's team thinks that's a bit much.
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I do think it was the gambit that Adrian made when it decided to go NCAA. Really they should be in an eastern conference, but no one in the east would or will take them. Even if they did, their travel is ridiculous. (unless I'm mistaken...Buffalo State is the closest eastern school at 350ish miles.)

The season you highlighted and complained about...Adrian also traveled to Buffalo State and to Chatham. So not much room for complaint there.


It's the road you travel when you are the only D3 team within 250+ miles of your school. I seem to remember being told that Adrian made a lot of concessions when they joined the NCHA, like sharing the cost of visitor teams travel and lodgings. I might be mistaken. However, you can't really expect a school like UW-RF or UW-S at this juncture to spend that much money traveling to Adrian when you can spend significantly less money going to Gustavus, St. Thomas, St. Scholastica, etc. Gustavus only has 5 non-conference games...they generally have at least 3 locked up with Superior, River Falls and Stevens Point...why drive to Adrian?

It really seems that Adrian needs to play those schools more than those schools need to play Adrian...so why would those schools waste the money to drive out there?

I also do think there is some lingering hatred there from the WIAC schools pulling out of the NCHA. You know the last few years have seen very few WIAC/NCHA crossover games.

And you can shove up that programs ace all you want...but if you ever want to get that coveted Pool C slot...you need to play and beat that program.
 
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gojackets said:
I also like that River Falls includes on their schedule the NCAA tournament dates. I don't know many other schools that put that on their regular season schedule 6 months before the season starts.
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I guess when you've been there the last 4-5 years you can get away with it.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Norwich:

http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/wice/2015-16/schedule

Adrian replaces Manhattanville as the fourth team in the East/West Hockey Classic. Straight tournament format this season with Norwich facing Plattsburgh and Elmira taking on Adrian the first day.
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Looking forward to another great East/West! I remember Coach Bolding mentioned something about a line-up adjustment for the tournament. Great addition to bring Adrian in to start the season and strengthen the competition!
 
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Hammer said:
Stevens Point has in the past, both men and women. Eau Claire has been in our barn a few times as well, both men and women. I'm not sure anyone at River Falls possesses a map of the United States that includes Michigan in it. A few years ago, before the WIAC schools took their pucks and went home, Adrian had a conference schedule where they had 6 home games and 14 on the road. I could maybe understand 8 home, 12 away, but to have 2/3 of your conference games on the road is ridiculous. Needless to say, UWRF didn't make an appearance in Arrington.

Here. It was 3 seasons ago now



Any way you slice it, that's a crock of crap. And if you don't agree, let's do it to your school instead and see how fun it is. If you want to give us a home-and-home, or something somewhat reasonable, like Stevens Point and UWEC have in the past, then fine. God knows we're not afraid to get on the bus and go for a ride ourselves, and we don't have a problem returning the favor to teams that come here. But if any school doesn't ever want to come here, and insist on us coming there all the time, they can take their program and shove it in their ***. I'd rather not play them at all if it's going to be like that. Utica's men's team thinks that's a bit much.
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The obvious question is 'Why does Adrian have the only Women's hockey program in the entire Lower Peninsula?'

Whatever the answer is, there are two responses: First, if the state of Michigan refuses to support Women's/girls' hockey, then screw you. You're going to have to make sacrifices for operating in a non-hockey environment.
The second response, which I prefer, is that if Adrian is willing to sponsor a program and is hanging in there throughout the difficulties, then other DIII programs should go out of their way to support them as a gesture of goodwill and just in support of Women's hockey in general. Look at what the WCHA has done with Lindenwood--scheduling series home and away with them in alternate years to support a new program. That's what coaches who care about the sport will do (see Mark Johnson).
 
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Has anyone else picked up on the Cardinal/Panther Tournament has Five Teams this year? Middlebury, Plattsburgh, Elmira, Stevens Point, and Gustavus. The schedules do not quit match up but it looks like everyone has two games beginning 11/27 with Point/Plattsburgh and Middlebury/Elmira, 11/28 GAC/Elmira probably Point/Middlebury, and then 11/29 GAC/Plattsburgh. Anyone know for sure the schedule?
 
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Hammer said:
Stevens Point has in the past, both men and women. Eau Claire has been in our barn a few times as well, both men and women. I'm not sure anyone at River Falls possesses a map of the United States that includes Michigan in it. A few years ago, before the WIAC schools took their pucks and went home, Adrian had a conference schedule where they had 6 home games and 14 on the road. I could maybe understand 8 home, 12 away, but to have 2/3 of your conference games on the road is ridiculous. Needless to say, UWRF didn't make an appearance in Arrington.
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Gustavus Women's team has been to Arrington/Adrian for Two games several years back but I do not believe Adrian has been to St. Peter yet.
 
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4and20 said:
Gustavus Women's team has been to Arrington/Adrian for Two games several years back but I do not believe Adrian has been to St. Peter yet.
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Adrian went to Gustavus last year and won, 1-0.
 
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Otter+ said:
The obvious question is 'Why does Adrian have the only Women's hockey program in the entire Lower Peninsula?'
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That is a far better question for other schools, and is something that is well out of Adrian's control. That is none of my concern.

Whatever the answer is, there are two responses: First, if the state of Michigan refuses to support Women's/girls' hockey, then screw you. You're going to have to make sacrifices for operating in a non-hockey environment.
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I think our girls have gone above and beyond the call in that department.

The second response, which I prefer, is that if Adrian is willing to sponsor a program and is hanging in there throughout the difficulties, then other DIII programs should go out of their way to support them as a gesture of goodwill and just in support of Women's hockey in general. Look at what the WCHA has done with Lindenwood--scheduling series home and away with them in alternate years to support a new program. That's what coaches who care about the sport will do (see Mark Johnson).
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Scheduling a home-and-home series, whether it's in back-to-back years, or within a few years, is hardly "going out of the way" to support a program. It's being reasonable. Now, not every team is going to receive an even split. And some teams are going to invite others to tournaments, with both sides knowing the favor won't be returned. I suspect that's what we're looking at with the beginning of our season.

My point was this: for some reason we scheduled a game against a team that was once in our league, and then broke off and took their sticks and pucks home, and basically gave us the FOAD treatment. Teams that act like that that can go screw themselves. Let's make one thing perfectly clear. UWRF needs teams like Adrian far more than Adrian needs teams like UWRF. Adrian has a Pool A, in a league that will expand by one team in a year or two from now, with the addition of Northland. UWRF decided they didn't need a Pool A. That's their choice.

This is Year 9 for the womens' program at Adrian. We're not going anywhere. And I'd say we've done a nice job of building our program.
 
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4and20 said:
Has anyone else picked up on the Cardinal/Panther Tournament has Five Teams this year? Middlebury, Plattsburgh, Elmira, Stevens Point, and Gustavus. The schedules do not quit match up but it looks like everyone has two games beginning 11/27 with Point/Plattsburgh and Middlebury/Elmira, 11/28 GAC/Elmira probably Point/Middlebury, and then 11/29 GAC/Plattsburgh. Anyone know for sure the schedule?
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I do not know anything for sure (other than I have told the Editor I will head north after the Thanksgiving table is cleared), but here are links to the Plattsburgh, Stevens Point and Elmira '15-'16 schedules:
http://www.gocardinalsports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=111&path=whockey
http://athletics.uwsp.edu/schedule.aspx?path=whockey
http://athletics.elmira.edu/schedule.aspx?path=whockey&
 
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Otter+ said:
The obvious question is 'Why does Adrian have the only Women's hockey program in the entire Lower Peninsula?'

Whatever the answer is, there are two responses: First, if the state of Michigan refuses to support Women's/girls' hockey, then screw you. You're going to have to make sacrifices for operating in a non-hockey environment.
The second response, which I prefer, is that if Adrian is willing to sponsor a program and is hanging in there throughout the difficulties, then other DIII programs should go out of their way to support them as a gesture of goodwill and just in support of Women's hockey in general. Look at what the WCHA has done with Lindenwood--scheduling series home and away with them in alternate years to support a new program. That's what coaches who care about the sport will do (see Mark Johnson).
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if Michigan "refuses to support Womens/girls hockey"...then why should we? Get your house in order [e.g. Mich and Mich State...no hockey?] then come talk to us.
 
 
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