DIII game notes

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

As for the earlier question about what degrees aren't recognized: at least a few girls have taken education degrees that need significant tweaking when they get back across the border. Typically another year or two of courses to make sure the requirements "match up".

That makes sense. Even on this side of the border, if I get a teaching certification in one state, many other states will require that I do courses or tests before transferring my certification.

 

[GTOWN]

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That makes sense. Even on this side of the border, if I get a teaching certification in one state, many other states will require that I do courses or tests before transferring my certification.

No doubt this isn't just a "Canadian" issue but when you're already paying a 30-40% premium on the cost of university due to the exchange it tends to get highlighted even more. You wouldn't believe the discussions and arguments happening in arenas all over Ontario about the pros and cons of going south of the border to play.

 

[gojackets]

NCAA protectionism??

Perhaps a better answer is that people finally woke up and realized that there is no justification for providing US funds [e.g. federal, state or private scholarship or grant money] to Canadians so that they can come here and play D3 girls hockey. Honestly, what's the point? That same money [which is generally either US taxpayer money or donations to the school by US alumni] could and would be better spent on American families who are struggling to make ends meet and send their kids to college.

Scholarships are not paid with tax money. The majority of scholarships come from endowment funds, which are donations to the school. The school I went to had a tuition waiver program, where any out of state resident, which included Canadians and Sri Lankans, had the out of state tuition waived and were only charged in state tuition. But again, that program was set up through a government assistance program and I believe was allowed at all state schools. That isn't a "scholarship" however. Furthermore, in general it helps the college to be able to show that it gets students from all over the world, which makes it more notable, and draws in more students from out of state.

My parents struggled to make ends meet, I had to pay for my own college (- the scholarships I received for being smart) and I feel no ill will towards the hockey players who came from Canada on tuition waivers. Many of whom are also US citizens now, as well.

 

[CrossCheck]

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To build the women's game using Canadian talent, maybe? To spark interest, which leads to participation, which leads to growth, which leads to higher quality, perhaps?

"to build the women's game using Canadian talent"...ok, first of all, there is no difference in talent between US and Canada. Second, take the myopic lens off...there are bigger and better uses of financial aid $$ that "building the women's game"...like assisting needy US students and families pay for college perhaps??...with the emphasis on "student" rather than sports participant.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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The only people who feel ill will towards Canadian / Foreign students are the parents of Susie who had her spot on the roster and or playing time taken by Jenny from Mississauga Ontario...

The State and US government could save hundreds of times more in many other areas than allowing kids to get an EDUCATION at the SAME COST (not cheaper) than a US student. The money spent and or saved in foreign student education is so small compared to other things the government wastes its money on.

And yes, women's hockey in Canada is deeper and better overall than US. Get over it. The US has some great players yes, but the hockey pool is larger, deeper and overall better in Canada.

 

[SeymoreHockey]

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The only people who feel ill will towards Canadian / Foreign students are the parents of Susie who had her spot on the roster and or playing time taken by Jenny from Mississauga Ontario...

The State and US government could save hundreds of times more in many other areas than allowing kids to get an EDUCATION at the SAME COST (not cheaper) than a US student. The money spent and or saved in foreign student education is so small compared to other things the government wastes its money on.

And yes, women's hockey in Canada is deeper and better overall than US. Get over it. The US has some great players yes, but the hockey pool is larger, deeper and overall better in Canada.

Here, here...well stated.

 

[shelfit]

That girl Jenny from Mississauga is the problem that's for sure!

 

[GTOWN]

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That girl Jenny from Mississauga is the problem that's for sure!

Jenny from Mississauga is a problem up here as well. Jane from Oakville didn't get an offer to play in the U.S. at all so her folks go around bashing DIII hockey.....and U.S. universities in general.

 

[NUProf]

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As for the earlier question about what degrees aren't recognized: at least a few girls have taken education degrees that need significant tweaking when they get back across the border. Typically another year or two of courses to make sure the requirements "match up".

The education major at many schools is not a portable degree. It may meet the requirements for licensure/certification in the state in which the school is located, but maybe not anywhere else. Many states are now requiring that if you are going to teach there, you need to have a major in an academic discipline, and not a major in education. It is an ongoing discussion at many schools. The issue is that a student planning to teach in a particular region needs to know what the requirement are in the intended area.

 

[gojackets]

The education major at many schools is not a portable degree. It may meet the requirements for licensure/certification in the state in which the school is located, but maybe not anywhere else. Many states are now requiring that if you are going to teach there, you need to have a major in an academic discipline, and not a major in education. It is an ongoing discussion at many schools. The issue is that a student planning to teach in a particular region needs to know what the requirement are in the intended area.

Every state has their own requirements for teaching. Wisconsin required a major and a minor in a "real" field with another minor in education. I, for instance, majored in biology and minored in chemistry and then entered the education program. Since UWS was on the border with Minnesota they had their program aligned to meet Minnesota requirements as well but I had to take extra tests. Arizona happily accepted my teaching license from Wisconsin cuz in Arizona if you can breathe and walk at the same time, you can become a teacher, but I had to take SEI classes which cover the states laws on English as a 2nd language and strategies for teaching non-native speakers. I had looked at going to Alaska to teach, I would have had to take a year of Alaskan history.

Most states have some form of reciprocity with other states. But for sure you would have issues going from a US institution to Canada as their guidelines are different, but truly that is the students fault for not knowing what the requirements were when they got into it.

 

[gojackets]

The only people who feel ill will towards Canadian / Foreign students are the parents of Susie who had her spot on the roster and or playing time taken by Jenny from Mississauga Ontario...

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I feel we could make a parody of a Beyoncé song with Jenny from Mississauga. I'll pitch it to Weird Al. Lol

 

[PSUChamps2001]

I feel we could make a parody of a Beyoncé song with Jenny from Mississauga. I'll pitch it to Weird Al. Lol

Or J Lo "Jenny from the Block"....

 

[gojackets]

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Lake Forest and Adrian tied at 3 going into the 3rd

Adrian outshooting LFC 37-10

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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Plattsburgh wins 3-0 in Buffalo. Camille Leonard now stands alone as the first DIII women's hockey goalie with 70 career wins, AND she gets within 2 of Aveson's DIII Women's record of 31 shutouts.

 

[gojackets]

Lake Forest and Adrian tied at 3 going into the 3rd

Adrian outshooting LFC 37-10

Adrian pulls it out 5-4. Game was intense. Should be a good one tomorrow.

 

[Call It]

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Hamilton v Conn Coll 0-0 tie, only 2 stars given in this one.
Adrian Wins 5-4 over Lake Forest, is LF a top 10 team? I don't think so, if not 4 for 8 on powerplay than this one is a blow out
Endicott beat Salem State 3-0, they should be moving up in the polls (that's sarcasm, Endicott hasn't beaten anyone that's any good!)
Oswego loses 3-1 to William Smith. The win vs Platt can only take you so far, they need to fall in the rankings. They might end up in 5th place in their conference.

 

[shelfit]

Hamilton v Conn Coll 0-0 tie, only 2 stars given in this one.
Adrian Wins 5-4 over Lake Forest, is LF a top 10 team? I don't think so, if not 4 for 8 on powerplay than this one is a blow out
Endicott beat Salem State 3-0, they should be moving up in the polls (that's sarcasm, Endicott hasn't beaten anyone that's any good!)
Oswego loses 3-1 to William Smith. The win vs Platt can only take you so far, they need to fall in the rankings. They might end up in 5th place in their conference.

Conn....no comment.
4 of 8 on the PP is pretty impressive, but that doesn't make LF top 10.
Sarcasm understood by all. No need to explain it...kinda defeats the purpose.
Oswego and Utica will win today and finish tied for 3rd/4th (no idea who wins the tiebreaker...they split with each other), and Buffalo will lose and drop from 3rd to 5th.

 

[spwood]

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Oswego loses 3-1 to William Smith. The win vs Platt can only take you so far, they need to fall in the rankings. They might end up in 5th place in their conference.

Oswego outshot William Smith 56-19. Kinda reminds me of the game they were outshot by Plattsburgh 50-18 but still won the game!

In today's game, Oswego outshoots William Smith 59-18 and the game ends in a 1-1 tie. I think I smell a POTW award for Maggie Salmon. 113 saves and a .982 save percentage this weekend....

 

[Scott_TG]

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Plattsburgh and Buff State tied at 2 after 2 periods. Plattsburgh outshooting Buffalo 32-15.

Edit: Tied at 3 midway through the 3rd. Plattsburgh up on shots 41-23 but Buffalo was able to answer the Meneghin goal in the 3rd.

Edit 2: Going into OT tied at 3.

 

[Scott_TG]

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Buffalo State skates to a 3-3 tie with Plattsburgh. Plattsburgh finished with 42-24 lead in shots but can't put the Bengals away. Finishes the regular season 23-1-1. On to the ECAC West tourney.