Diet and Exercise 2014: I Want It Now

[dxmnkd316]

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I was seriously hurting today. Even simple tasks like shaving were a chore because my arms were just so sore and stiff. I'm also starting to feel my first Plyo workout quite a bit when I'm going down the stairs. Although up is no issue.

I decided it was probably best to give the muscles a day of rest and put in the yoga disc instead. That didn't go as well as I thought it would.

I'm just hoping I can recover enough to play soccer (goalie) on Sunday.

 

[MissThundercat]

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Here's how I fared today: in the Reed's Lake 5K, I posted 30:16, which is not a PR, but faster than what I've been training at. As for the Reed's Lake 10K, I felt myself getting stronger as the race progressed. Finished in 1:03:58, which is a 10K PR, smashing the old mark of 1:14:58 by 11 minutes. And dammit, I forgot the Body Glide again... but I ask myself, do I even care?

 

[bottomdweller]

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I find these fad diets are rarely sound nutritional advice. Ever.

What isn't a fad diet? I think in order to find what reactions your body has to certain types of food you need to do some sort of experiment with you as the test subject. Either start with a Whole30 or something where you are only eating natural whole foods (and obviously omit sugar because that's not good for anyone) and then reintroduce the normal problem foods that people have (dairy, gluten, nuts, etc), and then base your diet (and a diet is the food that you consume) on what foods make you feel better and allow you to see results.

So step one is to go to your doctor and get baseline numbers for your cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. Basically a full work up. Then fully commit for a full 30 days at a minimum to remove all processed foods, alcohol, dairy, wheat, etc. so you're only eating lean protein, fruit, and vegetables (which is a lot easier now that it's summer time). Go back to the doctor for new blood tests and even check your weight and see what the results are. If you notice a difference and all your numbers are better, then you have found your new diet. Which doesn't mean you can't go and have pizza and a beer every now and then. It's just as you reintroduce the foods and see how you feel, you'll understand if the food it worth it.

I envy people who have no reaction to eating certain foods and don't have to limit the intake. It's a lot easier to make a quick sandwich at home and bring it to work than to have to prepare a meal, but I have to listen to what my body says.

 

[bottomdweller]

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P90X day 1:

I can't lift my hands above my head. Cripes.

Keep hittin' play

Yeah, that'll happen. P90X3, though only a half hour is pure torture.

 

[walrus]

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I envy people who have no reaction to eating certain foods and don't have to limit the intake. It's a lot easier to make a quick sandwich at home and bring it to work than to have to prepare a meal, but I have to listen to what my body says.

I haven't knowingly had any grains, potatoes, sugar or for that matter any processed food for almost 3 years, . I went from 320lbs to 255 and have stayed there. I didn't do it for weight I did it to stop taking nasty immune suppressing drugs and guess what I'm no longer on those drugs. My bloodwork is almost normal and if you had seen me in spring of 2011 you would have sworn I was close to death. My GI said she had patients in intensive care who were in better shape then I was.

 

[burd]

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I haven't knowingly had any grains, potatoes, sugar or for that matter any processed food for almost 3 years, . I went from 320lbs to 255 and have stayed there. I didn't do it for weight I did it to stop taking nasty immune suppressing drugs and guess what I'm no longer on those drugs. My bloodwork is almost normal and if you had seen me in spring of 2011 you would have sworn I was close to death. My GI said she had patients in intensive care who were in better shape then I was.

Sugar and processed foods screw up your body's ability to know when it's sated, too, leading to even more problems. Same is true for diet soft drinks. The fact that sugars are not listed as a percentage of daily recommended amounts, like nearly all other additives is a real head shaker.

 

[ericredaxe]

Sugar and processed foods screw up your body's ability to know when it's sated, too, leading to even more problems. Same is true for diet soft drinks. The fact that sugars are not listed as a percentage of daily recommended amounts, like nearly all other additives is a real head shaker.

I don't know if this is true or not, but I read in a men's health / fitness type of magazine that the average American male would lose 15 lbs in a year doing nothing but drinking a water anytime he would normally drink a soda.

 

[Scarlet]

I haven't knowingly had any grains, potatoes, sugar or for that matter any processed food for almost 3 years, . I went from 320lbs to 255 and have stayed there. I didn't do it for weight I did it to stop taking nasty immune suppressing drugs and guess what I'm no longer on those drugs. My bloodwork is almost normal and if you had seen me in spring of 2011 you would have sworn I was close to death. My GI said she had patients in intensive care who were in better shape then I was.

You mind my asking what a normal day's meals are like? I read and see the same thing about what you should eat and what you should cut out. I have no idea how to put together a daily meal plan based on that. I don't think I eat poorly bit I know I could eat better. Or differently.

I've been on the road a lot the last 6 months and I know my diet was affected by it because I know I've put on some weight. When they say cut out this and that, how do you do that when you're not able to cook on your own? It's hard mostly because I'm pretty picky and I know if I don't eat, I get sick and I feel uncomfortable trying new things on the road so I stick with stuff I know I will eat.

 

[walrus]

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You mind my asking what a normal day's meals are like? I read and see the same thing about what you should eat and what you should cut out. I have no idea how to put together a daily meal plan based on that. I don't think I eat poorly bit I know I could eat better. Or differently.

I've been on the road a lot the last 6 months and I know my diet was affected by it because I know I've put on some weight. When they say cut out this and that, how do you do that when you're not able to cook on your own? It's hard mostly because I'm pretty picky and I know if I don't eat, I get sick and I feel uncomfortable trying new things on the road so I stick with stuff I know I will eat.

Its not easy to do, no doubt. Its really tough on the road. Sugar and wheat are in most everything in a box found in a grocery store. My meals are simple. Meat,Fish, Chicken, cheese, eggs, veggies, fruits, nuts. yesterday I had toast for breakfast. I made the bread from eggs, peanut butter(peanuts and salt only) almond flour, baking soda, apple cider vinegar. Butter only on the toast. For lunch I had leftover pot roast which was grass fed chuck roast, carrots and onions thrown in a slow cooker. Last night for dinner I had grass fed steak and fresh beet greens. This morning eggs, lunch some kind of sandwich on that same bread, fruit. Tonight Fish and veggies. Its pretty similar to a Paleo diet with a few exceptions. I eat cheese and yogurt, the cheese has to be aged so there is no lactose left, same with the yogurt, I have to make it and ferment it 24 hrs instead of the usual 5 or 6 hrs like you'd buy in a store.. On the road you have to ask server if chef can make you stuff without certain ingredients. Obviously fast food is out but alot of restaurants will accommodate . I juts went on a Disney cruise for 7 days, they bent over backwards for me, it was awesome not cooking for 7 days. The diet I'm on is called SCD, its from a book called, Breaking the Viscous Cycle. Its meant to help people with IBD.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Personally, I don't buy into the whole "processed foods are eeevil" mantra. What constitutes a processed food? I mean, everything is processed to some extent unless of course you're buying only whole produce. Even then...

 

[leswp1]

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Personally, I don't buy into the whole "processed foods are eeevil" mantra. What constitutes a processed food? I mean, everything is processed to some extent unless of course you're buying only whole produce. Even then...

Kind of in the middle. I know that adding corn syrup and sodium both stimulate appetite and do a bunch of things to brain chemicals that make you want a whole bunch more (chronic exposure to high triglyceride foods make you crave more, even if you are sated)and affect your taste buds over time (if you eat very high sodium things your taste buds dial back the ability to judge sodium and when you restrict after time things will taste very salty when you are re-exposed). I also know a lot of the processed foods are way more calorie and sodium laden than they need to be.

Some additions to foods are OK but the science of some of these addititves is such that you 'need' more of the product.

I just threw a party where I served a lot of foods that had 3-4 whole ingredients mixed. People ate the healthier stuff like no tomorrow. Stuff like vegetables tossed in olive oil and hot roasted. They couldn't believe there wasn't a secret ingredient. Same thing for the salad- couldn't believe it was dressed with maple syrup/balsamic vinegar and olive oil. No secret ingredient there either. The store bought stuff went last.

 

[huskyfan]

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two years ago my cholesterol was 348. family history plus bad eating habits. went to a vegetarian diet. (not strict, still have turkey at Thanksgiving, prime rib at Christmas and the mister's yummy steaks for birthday, etc) and tried restricting sugar (yikes is that hard!) and dairy. first year I knocked 100 points off the cholesterol and lost 20 pounds. second year. my cholesterol is at 192. all the HDL, LDL, Tri, etc numbers are within normal range and doctor no longer holds the threat of statins over my head. down another 20 pounds. added in lots of exercise too - although this can be hard when we travel. minor bad news - I'm short
on B-12, Vitamin D, calcium, mild anemia. obviously the diet needs some changes.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Here's how I fared today: in the Reed's Lake 5K, I posted 30:16, which is not a PR, but faster than what I've been training at. As for the Reed's Lake 10K, I felt myself getting stronger as the race progressed. Finished in 1:03:58, which is a 10K PR, smashing the old mark of 1:14:58 by 11 minutes. And dammit, I forgot the Body Glide again... but I ask myself, do I even care?

Well done. I finished my first 5K yesterday at 29:14 officially, which wasn't chip timed so I was probably a bit under 29:00 considering I took a bit to get through the starting line. Considering I went a week without running because I was sick (and was still somewhat sick) and it was about 84 degrees I was happy with it and helped raise money for a good cause.

I don't know what kind of crack those 5K winners are doing but to finish around 17 minutes is just absurd.

 

[bottomdweller]

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Personally, I don't buy into the whole "processed foods are eeevil" mantra. What constitutes a processed food? I mean, everything is processed to some extent unless of course you're buying only whole produce. Even then...

So basically you want to know what is in your food. When you can't pronounce the ingredients listed on the package, it's probably not something you want to be eating. Food coloring isn't good for you, many different types of perservatives (food should go bad), etc. It's not easy to eat just plain whole foods like meat, veggies, fruits, etc. and I don't know too many people who can sustain that for life, but with all the chemicals that now go into our food, I think it's a safer bet to eat whole foods, and for some of them, organic or non-GMO.

 

[walrus]

Personally, I don't buy into the whole "processed foods are eeevil" mantra. What constitutes a processed food? I mean, everything is processed to some extent unless of course you're buying only whole produce. Even then...

the word is used as a broad term and literally you would be correct. Here are some examples of what I think processed foods are, American cheese, bad, cheddar cheese, good. Canned tomatoes from italy, good, ragu, bad. Wonder bread, bad, baguette from local baker, good. Etc.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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So basically you want to know what is in your food. When you can't pronounce the ingredients listed on the package, it's probably not something you want to be eating. Food coloring isn't good for you, many different types of perservatives (food should go bad), etc. It's not easy to eat just plain whole foods like meat, veggies, fruits, etc. and I don't know too many people who can sustain that for life, but with all the chemicals that now go into our food, I think it's a safer bet to eat whole foods, and for some of them, organic or non-GMO.

I also don't necessarily buy into the anti food coloring, preservative, and GMO movements either.

I can pronounce virtually all of the ingredients and think that just because you can't pronounce them is a terrible reason to think they are bad. Same thing with the word "chemical".

 

[walrus]

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I also don't necessarily buy into the anti food coloring, preservative, and GMO movements either.

I can pronounce virtually all of the ingredients and think that just because you can't pronounce them is a terrible reason to think they are bad. Same thing with the word "chemical".

Shocked that a Chem E would feel this way . I'll bet you can find some parents of Autistic kids who feel certain food colorings are bad though. They've seen noticeable improvement in some Autistic kids when taking certain foods and additives out of their diets. www.pecanbread.com is a site that caters to that. Obviously not a dbl blind study but...

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Shocked that a Chem E would feel this way . I'll bet you can find some parents of Autistic kids who feel certain food colorings are bad though. They've seen noticeable improvement in some Autistic kids when taking certain foods and additives out of their diets. www.pecanbread.com is a site that caters to that. Obviously not a dbl blind study but...

Parents of autistic kids are almost certainly the last people I would go to for information on what causes autism. Too much emotion involved and a lot of really bad information coming from that community over the years. I'm just skeptical. They may understand it much, much better than any other person, but I think I struggle with their understanding compared to the medical community.

Regarding your other point, I think the fact that I am a chem e and chem double major makes me less susceptible to the hysteria around most of these things. Because we tend not to get riled up when we see a "chemical" that is supposedly going to kill you but when you read the science behind it, it only happens in a lab setting with mice being giving tens of thousands of times the doses the average human would consume in a year.

 

[unofan]

Shocked that a Chem E would feel this way . I'll bet you can find some parents of Autistic kids who feel certain food colorings are bad though. They've seen noticeable improvement in some Autistic kids when taking certain foods and additives out of their diets. www.pecanbread.com is a site that caters to that. Obviously not a dbl blind study but...

You can find parents saying vaccines caused their child's autism too. You shouldn't put any stock in that, either.

For every parent that sees themselves as Nick Nolte in Lorenzo's Oil, there are probably 1,000 Jenny McCarthys out there.

 

[haulin oats]

Well done. I finished my first 5K yesterday at 29:14 officially, which wasn't chip timed so I was probably a bit under 29:00 considering I took a bit to get through the starting line. Considering I went a week without running because I was sick (and was still somewhat sick) and it was about 84 degrees I was happy with it and helped raise money for a good cause.

I don't know what kind of crack those 5K winners are doing but to finish around 17 minutes is just absurd.

No kidding. I can't wrap my mind around the runners that keep a 5:30 minute mile pace for a half marathon. Not sure I can sprint a 100m at 10mph.