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Diet and Exercise 2010: Whatever it takes

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Finally got to take my bike out yesterday (every weekend I haven't been busy has been raining), and was reminded how much more fun and challenging it is than biking on a stationary bike. Also discovered that there is a rail trail that runs through my town in two 5 mile sections. Part of it was flooded, so I only did about 7 miles round trip, but I'm looking forward to that in the summer.
 
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Any of the runners ever hear of ChiRunning? One of my fellow store runners loaned me a Chirunning book, and it's an interesting start.

It kind of flows into the form that I'm currently running + the barefoot movement.

Oh, and I have a pair of the Vibram Five Fingers KSO. Pretty interesting to run in them. Got a nasty blister under my big toe, so next time I'm going to run with the matching socks. Other than that, I do like running in them.
 
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alfablue said:
Any of the runners ever hear of ChiRunning? One of my fellow store runners loaned me a Chirunning book, and it's an interesting start.

It kind of flows into the form that I'm currently running + the barefoot movement.

Oh, and I have a pair of the Vibram Five Fingers KSO. Pretty interesting to run in them. Got a nasty blister under my big toe, so next time I'm going to run with the matching socks. Other than that, I do like running in them.
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Make sure you start slow and work your miles up as you do it. Its a totally different running motion and you need to start building up the calf muscles to support it.
 
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pardonme said:
Make sure you start slow and work your miles up as you do it. Its a totally different running motion and you need to start building up the calf muscles to support it.
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Skimming the book, I'm pretty close to that form already- I changed last summer to a more straight, but leaning forward stance- and found it to be very comfortable.

Or are you talking about the shoes? ;)
For that- I'm trying just one run a week, and go from there. 3-4 miles for that one run.
 
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alfablue said:
Any of the runners ever hear of ChiRunning? One of my fellow store runners loaned me a Chirunning book, and it's an interesting start.

It kind of flows into the form that I'm currently running + the barefoot movement.

Oh, and I have a pair of the Vibram Five Fingers KSO. Pretty interesting to run in them. Got a nasty blister under my big toe, so next time I'm going to run with the matching socks. Other than that, I do like running in them.
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I've read the book and it has some good stuff in it. I'm also a big fan of running with a metronome to try and keep your cadence up around 90.

The guy who wrote ChiRunning has an article about it. I picked up a cheap metronome at guitar center and try and run with it once a week or so.

http://www.chirunning.com/shop/pages.php?tab=r&pageid=18&id=394
 
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alfablue said:
Any of the runners ever hear of ChiRunning? One of my fellow store runners loaned me a Chirunning book, and it's an interesting start.

It kind of flows into the form that I'm currently running + the barefoot movement.

Oh, and I have a pair of the Vibram Five Fingers KSO. Pretty interesting to run in them. Got a nasty blister under my big toe, so next time I'm going to run with the matching socks. Other than that, I do like running in them.
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This is the first time I've heard of that. It looks interesting, that's for sure.

As for the barefoot movement, I think I'm gonna have to pass on that one. I have absolutely no arch in my feet and pronate like you wouldn't believe. I think running barefoot would just be disastrous for me.
 
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nmupiccdiva said:
As for the barefoot movement, I think I'm gonna have to pass on that one. I have absolutely no arch in my feet and pronate like you wouldn't believe. I think running barefoot would just be disastrous for me.
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So "they" say- all that means is that you should take more time to get into barefoot running. It's supposed to strengthen your foot, and make an arch.

All I'll suggest is to try running around your block to see how it feels.

Everything I've read does tell me that your feet will be very sore as they strengthen up- with all of the support shoes and motion control, it makes the feet muscles very, very weak. Which is the total point of barefoot in the first place.

There's a lot of conflicting info on that- some claim that super support shoes are good, some claim that super support shoes are evil incarnate. No real data to support either side, except for a large amount of injuries post the waffle (nike) running shoe. Perhaps read "Born to Run".....
 
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My biggest concern with the barefoot idea is the fact that I really don't have any desire to wind up with shards of glass in my foot. I haven't looked into it, really, but do they have a solution for that?
 
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alfablue said:
Any of the runners ever hear of ChiRunning? One of my fellow store runners loaned me a Chirunning book, and it's an interesting start.

It kind of flows into the form that I'm currently running + the barefoot movement.

Oh, and I have a pair of the Vibram Five Fingers KSO. Pretty interesting to run in them. Got a nasty blister under my big toe, so next time I'm going to run with the matching socks. Other than that, I do like running in them.
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I have, and I'm a huge proponent of running barefoot. Reading the book Born to Run only solidified that.

Cycled yesterday and ran 4 miles. This is going to become more of the norm. :)
 
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jmh said:
Biked about 20 miles today. I know that's not a whole lot for some of you, but it's pretty good for me. :)
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Getting Ready for the five boro?

Sloe Gin said:
if a bunch of people were interested, I could book us a block of rooms at Planet Hollywood for a ridiculous price. But as of now, the only three I know that are doing it are Winger, myself, and Quiz. Diva might?
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Oh thanks! Let me know know what I need to do. My friend might run too but her boyfriend (who is friggen lame!!) wont let her sign up for anything until after chicago. I also just found out he is coming to Chicago too. Which I guess makes sense come support your girlfriends first marathon, so you dont look like a total *******. He really sucks.

Anyways just let me know.

I am signing up for Crossfit today. I am friggen stoked! I wish I didnt have class tonight so I could go into tonight for my first workout.

Edit: They star'd out J@ckb@g, really!!!
 
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alfablue said:
So "they" say- all that means is that you should take more time to get into barefoot running. It's supposed to strengthen your foot, and make an arch.

All I'll suggest is to try running around your block to see how it feels.

Everything I've read does tell me that your feet will be very sore as they strengthen up- with all of the support shoes and motion control, it makes the feet muscles very, very weak. Which is the total point of barefoot in the first place.

There's a lot of conflicting info on that- some claim that super support shoes are good, some claim that super support shoes are evil incarnate. No real data to support either side, except for a large amount of injuries post the waffle (nike) running shoe. Perhaps read "Born to Run".....
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I agree completely. My wife has been told she has no arches, pronates, needed orthotics, etc and none of that has helped her stay healthy. Over the past 4 years it's been a constant cycle of ramping up mileage, getting injured, resting and healing, then repeating.

Over the winter she started running once a week for just 10-20 minutes in beach shoes and since doing that she's been able to ramp up her mileage without injury. Now, it's a little early in the experiment to declare victory but the early signs are very encouraging.
 
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Dirty Bottles said:
I agree completely. My wife has been told she has no arches, pronates, needed orthotics, etc and none of that has helped her stay healthy. Over the past 4 years it's been a constant cycle of ramping up mileage, getting injured, resting and healing, then repeating.

Over the winter she started running once a week for just 10-20 minutes in beach shoes and since doing that she's been able to ramp up her mileage without injury. Now, it's a little early in the experiment to declare victory but the early signs are very encouraging.
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Hmmm maybe I should consider trying it. My feet a pretty flat and I over pronante too. Althought I have been injury free since November, but that doesnt mean I cant find better ways to run. Especially they way my right foot strikes the ground, I feel like I could easily turn it.
 
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alfablue said:
So "they" say- all that means is that you should take more time to get into barefoot running. It's supposed to strengthen your foot, and make an arch.

All I'll suggest is to try running around your block to see how it feels.

Everything I've read does tell me that your feet will be very sore as they strengthen up- with all of the support shoes and motion control, it makes the feet muscles very, very weak. Which is the total point of barefoot in the first place.

There's a lot of conflicting info on that- some claim that super support shoes are good, some claim that super support shoes are evil incarnate. No real data to support either side, except for a large amount of injuries post the waffle (nike) running shoe. Perhaps read "Born to Run".....
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Have to agree. I'm able to run better, e.g., without shin splints, sore ankles, etc. with my Vibram Five-Fingers than I was ever able to do with running shoes by Saucony, Brooks, etc. However, I generally only run trails or grass, and avoid the pavement.
 
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BUT09 said:
My biggest concern with the barefoot idea is the fact that I really don't have any desire to wind up with shards of glass in my foot. I haven't looked into it, really, but do they have a solution for that?
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Well, watch where you are running....

But the cheap option seems to be beach shoes- last week, I looked for reviews for the Vibram Five Fingers ($75-85 depending on the model), and found one "barefoot" guy who really likes cheap beach shoes. I'm not sold on them just because I had some problems with blisters and sand. But for <$15, it's worth a try. I'd google it to see how they should fit, but the fit will be more snug than normal running shoes.

One of the nice things for running like that is the ultra portability of those shoes- much easier to pack than typical running shoes. But that's a side benefit.

On a similar note to ScottM and Dirty Bottles- for one of our group runs, we had a drop in who also runs with the Five Fingers- and has so for just over a year. She was told by the doctor to stop running, and she didn't like the advice (runners are SO stubborn....) and gave the Five Fingers a shot. She's never looked back.

Not sure where the path will take me, but I'm open to the ideas, FOR SURE. Not so sure about Mrs. Alfa- she's blaming some nagging blisters on the shoes, but I think I need to work on her technique and focus some more, back to ChiRunning.
 
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alfablue said:
Well, watch where you are running....

But the cheap option seems to be beach shoes- last week, I looked for reviews for the Vibram Five Fingers ($75-85 depending on the model), and found one "barefoot" guy who really likes cheap beach shoes. I'm not sold on them just because I had some problems with blisters and sand. But for <$15, it's worth a try. I'd google it to see how they should fit, but the fit will be more snug than normal running shoes.

One of the nice things for running like that is the ultra portability of those shoes- much easier to pack than typical running shoes. But that's a side benefit.

On a similar note to ScottM and Dirty Bottles- for one of our group runs, we had a drop in who also runs with the Five Fingers- and has so for just over a year. She was told by the doctor to stop running, and she didn't like the advice (runners are SO stubborn....) and gave the Five Fingers a shot. She's never looked back.

Not sure where the path will take me, but I'm open to the ideas, FOR SURE. Not so sure about Mrs. Alfa- she's blaming some nagging blisters on the shoes, but I think I need to work on her technique and focus some more, back to ChiRunning.
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What are beach shoes?
 
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Anybody recommend a good running shoe for folks who seriously under pronate? I have really high arches and tend to wear out the outside edge and heels of my shoes faster than any other part. Plantar fasciitis is a beeyatch, too.
 
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