Diet and Exercise 2010, pt. 2: Never Going Back

[moose97]

Re: Diet and Exercise 2010, pt. 2: Never Going Back

start with running now. Get a short run in, like .25 miles. If you walk, you walk. Don't worry about it, you're going to be giving this an entire year to get ready. Gradually progress, and I mean gradually. Keep up the cycling and swimming, but start working on running now.

I think I'm gonna go with the agressive couch to 5k for the moment and repeat a week or two if I need to. I just don't see the need to walk for a month (I'm not that out of shape) first...

I'm gonna warn you: gelato is overrated. It doesn't taste all that good.

Yes and no. From a grocery stores' freezer? Overrated. From a good Italian restaurant? Usually pretty good.

 

[alfablue]

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I'm gonna warn you: gelato is overrated. It doesn't taste all that good.

That strongly depends on who makes it. When I do get gelatto, it's always from the right palces- like on my BD- we went to a local creamery, and they did a gelatto instead of ice cream- blueberry- and it ROCKED.

And the coconut gelatto (they call it ice cream, but I'm pretty sure there's almost no cream in it) from my wife's hometown is the best in the world. (that would be Kings Cream, in the square of Ponce, Puerto Rico).

As for "giving up" or "sacrificing" to not eat food- sometimes, one does need to question whether you "need" something or not. Occasional stuff- yea- no problem with that. But if you think you need "goodies" to survive, you should really examine if that is the case or not. And sometimes I think we think survive is a bad word- again, no issue with good an rewarding tasting food every once in a while- but if you don't want to gain weight- "survival calories" are all you need to keep at a static weight (measured over I would say two weeks or so).

 

[ScottM]

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I'm gonna warn you: gelato is overrated. It doesn't taste all that good.

I take it you've never been to Italy.

So far, my own progress is pretty good. I'm down about 15 lbs since late-May. I want to drop another 10-15 or so to get to around 200 lbs by October or so. I'm 5'8" but have always been heavier, and not fat. When I was in the army I was always flagged for being "overweight", but always maxed the PT tests, and then some and caliper readings were usually 10-12%.

I've changed my workouts to emphasize more cardio, like spending 45 minutes on the ellipitcal machine and not using the handles very much. It improves balance and works the core pretty well. I've started running a bit more since I discovered Nike Free shoes, which is basically their version of barefoot running shoes. Pretty impressed with them so far, and no foot or ankle issues I've had with other shoes.

 

[nmupiccdiva]

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Like I said, I rediscovered Jello and Icee on Monday. Also, I want to try gelato (Italian ice cream); it's lighter, but it's not fat free, tasteless junk.

start with running now. Get a short run in, like .25 miles. If you walk, you walk. Don't worry about it, you're going to be giving this an entire year to get ready. Gradually progress, and I mean gradually. Keep up the cycling and swimming, but start working on running now.



I'm gonna warn you: gelato is overrated. It doesn't taste all that good.

That strongly depends on who makes it. When I do get gelatto, it's always from the right palces- like on my BD- we went to a local creamery, and they did a gelatto instead of ice cream- blueberry- and it ROCKED.

And the coconut gelatto (they call it ice cream, but I'm pretty sure there's almost no cream in it) from my wife's hometown is the best in the world. (that would be Kings Cream, in the square of Ponce, Puerto Rico).

As for "giving up" or "sacrificing" to not eat food- sometimes, one does need to question whether you "need" something or not. Occasional stuff- yea- no problem with that. But if you think you need "goodies" to survive, you should really examine if that is the case or not. And sometimes I think we think survive is a bad word- again, no issue with good an rewarding tasting food every once in a while- but if you don't want to gain weight- "survival calories" are all you need to keep at a static weight (measured over I would say two weeks or so).

I actually used to work at a place where I made gelato. It was pretty much the only good part of the job. I guess it's best merit is that it's so much more dense than ice cream that you can't have the absurdly large portion sizes you can get away with when you have ice cream. I'd give you our company's schpiel, but I'm afraid the UofM grad who owned the place might trace it down and sue me. (I wish I was kidding.) But, yeah, good gelato can be one of the better things in life, for sure.

 

[ScottM]

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Nice article on some 5K races around the country.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703977004575393042408039632.html?mod=WSJ_hps_MIDDLEForthNews

 

[huskyfan]

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here's my thing. late 50's, 20-25 lbs overweight, but pretty active lifestyle, in fairly good shape. spoiled princess jacuzzi white wine vodka type. no health problems. so I've booked this trip to raft the Grand Canyon. yes, dear friends, huskyfan will be sleeping on the ground! 8 days with no laptop, microwave or blow dryer. rattlesnakes, scorpions and lizards will crawl over me as I sleep. during the day I'll defy death by shooting rapids. oh yeah. we having fun now. then comes the good part. on the last day I GET TO hike out of the Grand Canyon from Phantom Ranch to Grand Canyon Village via the Bright Angel Trail. 9.7 miles, almost a mile vertical gain, temps in the 90's, low hundreds, the last four miles are basically a staircase. a mule will carry my gear out. (thank god for small favors) so basically I just have to drag my sorry a55 up the trail. the mister will be waiting with a cold beer. actually make that a double martini, rocks, olives, dear. the trip planner suggests training for this. ya think?

so my goals - before next June : lose the excess weight and get into good enough shape to make it up the trail. suggestions? ideas?

 

[alfablue]

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here's my thing. late 50's, 20-25 lbs overweight, but pretty active lifestyle, in fairly good shape. spoiled princess jacuzzi white wine vodka type. no health problems. so I've booked this trip to raft the Grand Canyon. yes, dear friends, huskyfan will be sleeping on the ground! 8 days with no laptop, microwave or blow dryer. rattlesnakes, scorpions and lizards will crawl over me as I sleep. during the day I'll defy death by shooting rapids. oh yeah. we having fun now. then comes the good part. on the last day I GET TO hike out of the Grand Canyon from Phantom Ranch to Grand Canyon Village via the Bright Angel Trail. 9.7 miles, almost a mile vertical gain, temps in the 90's, low hundreds, the last four miles are basically a staircase. a mule will carry my gear out. (thank god for small favors) so basically I just have to drag my sorry a55 up the trail. the mister will be waiting with a cold beer. actually make that a double martini, rocks, olives, dear. the trip planner suggests training for this. ya think?

so my goals - before next June : lose the excess weight and get into good enough shape to make it up the trail. suggestions? ideas?

Do you live in Houghton/Hancock? Hill repeats. A lot of them. Not the highway type, but the ones straight up the hills. The heat thing- well, not much you can do about that- but the better in shape you are, the better you will handle the heat with water.

 

[Painted_Bandit]

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Do you live in Houghton/Hancock? Hill repeats. A lot of them. Not the highway type, but the ones straight up the hills. The heat thing- well, not much you can do about that- but the better in shape you are, the better you will handle the heat with water.

huskyfan I think he means Agate street, or Brockway Mt will work too

 

[huskyfan]

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Baldy, Bare Bluff, Horace Greeley. its going to be a loong 11 months.

 

[Patman]

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Lets go for an end of the month update shaln't we...

Squat (max): 290

Did this for one... unsure on depth... otherwise its 280x2... because of back issues my coach has switched me to front squats (160x3setsx5reps). Bottom line is my back needs to be stronger.

Press (max): 140

1 plate I've decided to emphasize this 'cause chicks dig the shoulders... ok... not really I think the challenge of the press is interesting to me since nobody else wants to do it (gotta build them chests)... still... going is slow but to me its more fun than the...

Bench (max): 182.5

Yeah, I haven't done this in awhile (6 weeks?). Long term, i may switch back... I have two goals... strength... appearance. My theory on life is being impressive to men is worth more since being impressive to men will be impressive to women... life theory and misogyny aside... the world isn't a nice place... so building this up may be better for the ultimate goal... a better life. Either way... haven't done this in awhile. Don't care for them... may be used as an accessory exercise to pace the press.

Deadlift (max): 265

I haven't touched this either but my coach has me focused on rows and RDLs (Romanian Deadlifts). Either way... for squats to be any good I need to get a stronger back.

Clean (max): 132 (60 kg)

ok... technically its still a power clean... hard to jump and then get under the bar... I need to figure that out then that can go up depending upon my front squat... coach thinks I can get to 170 right now if I could front squat.

Snatch (max) 90 (41 kg)

Not a big fan... this is more directly a power snatch. He has me doing overhead squats off of this... I'm just to fatigued at this point (end of the workout)... balance and arm fatigue (holding the bar up) is a limiting factor on the overhead squat and will be an issue transitioning to a true snatch.

 

[alfablue]

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New distance milestone this morning- 15 miles! I was only going to go for 14, but one of the people I run with was doing 18, and she appreciated the company- so 3 of us did it. Felt good- if I didn't speed up (intentionally) for the last two miles, I think I could have gone a lot farther.

More later- gotta run.

 

[Sloe Gin]

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New distance milestone this morning- 15 miles! I was only going to go for 14, but one of the people I run with was doing 18, and she appreciated the company- so 3 of us did it. Felt good- if I didn't speed up (intentionally) for the last two miles, I think I could have gone a lot farther.

More later- gotta run.

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great job man. That's very impressive.

 

[jmh]

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I was on my bike for long enough today that I seem to have a tan (well, ok, sunburn) line on my forehead from the vents on my helmet. That's gotta count for something, right?

 

[alfablue]

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great job man. That's very impressive.

Must have been tired- I didn't even notice that when I typed it. That's pretty funny.

The hard part about the run was when I hit about 13.1, and thought- ok, time to repeat.

But at least I think the pace I ran was pretty sustainable- and within about 15 seconds of my target time (taking away the last two miles...). Gives me a lot of optimism.

 

[MissThundercat]

Re: Diet and Exercise 2010, pt. 2: Never Going Back

New distance milestone this morning- 15 miles! I was only going to go for 14, but one of the people I run with was doing 18, and she appreciated the company- so 3 of us did it. Felt good- if I didn't speed up (intentionally) for the last two miles, I think I could have gone a lot farther.

More later- gotta run.

c:/music files/rimshot.mp3

great job man. That's very impressive.

Must have been tired- I didn't even notice that when I typed it. That's pretty funny.

The hard part about the run was when I hit about 13.1, and thought- ok, time to repeat.

But at least I think the pace I ran was pretty sustainable- and within about 15 seconds of my target time (taking away the last two miles...). Gives me a lot of optimism.

Way to go alfa!

As for me, I ran the Coast Guard 5K this morning in 36 minutes, then turned around and ran the 10K in 1:14:52. Granted, I came in last in my age group for both events, and my pace was only ~12:20/mile, but it felt great to be back on the road.

 

[nmupiccdiva]

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On Wednesday, I finally hit my first double digit run. I also seized up majorly during the last 3/4 of a mile, and when my bike escort support team/boyfriend found me, I was leaning against a stop sign pole shaking and crying.

That being said, my parents are in the UP this week, and my mom is going on my 11 miler with me.

 

[pardonme]

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Finished the Cayuga Lake Triathlon in 1:37:30 I think. Now off on a 6 day cycling adventure tomorrow.

 

[Sloe Gin]

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Finished the Cayuga Lake Triathlon in 1:37:30 I think. Now off on a 6 day cycling adventure tomorrow.

nice

 

[huskyfan]

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you are all an inspiration to me.

 

[alfablue]

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On Wednesday, I finally hit my first double digit run. I also seized up majorly during the last 3/4 of a mile, and when my bike escort support team/boyfriend found me, I was leaning against a stop sign pole shaking and crying.

That being said, my parents are in the UP this week, and my mom is going on my 11 miler with me.

I'm glad you made it- but don't worry too much- adding miles is very tough. I remember being quite useless the first day I ran 8 miles.

Over time, you will be fine.