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Detroit Tigers, Volume 3 - The Alan Trammell version

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It's probably been covered, but it's still relevant and in play. There are (many) times where I wonder what a hitter's approach is when he comes to the plate. I've seen too many 4-pitch walks, only to have the next hitter swing at the first pitch and pop one to 2B. Or they do the same thing when a reliever comes in.

Now, if a player simply is not a good hitter (looking squarely at Brandon Inge here), then Ted Williams is not going to be able to help him. And a Hall of Famer is not going to need a whole lot of input, for the most part. But a batting coach CAN work on the fundamentals and the mental approach at the plate. Those are two things I see that the Tiger lineup is lacking.

Also keep in mind that some of the hitters we have called up are career minor leaguers. Brad Eldred comes to mind. 32 years old, he's been through a few teams, and only a handful of big league games to speak of. Same thing with Quentin Berry, I suspect. If these guys were good hitters, they wouldn't be getting to the majors at 27, or by 32 they'd have a few years in the bigs.

Guys like that, I don't think there's a lot a hitting coach can do with them. But he can work with Boesch, Peralta, Young, and Danny Worth. There's no excuse for this many hitters to be struggling.
 
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This may have been covered. Is it just me or do players come up from Toledo and do ok hitting, then after McClendon gets hold of them they go downhill? I remember a couple of weeks ago Leyland saying their problems hitting are due to swinging at bad pitches. GENIOUS!!!! Now tell McClendon that. I just find it hard to beleive that there isn't an infielder (3rd, SS or 2nd) down in Toledo that couldn't play 2nd AND hit over the Mendoza line in Detroit.

Mostly .. it's just you.

Given, the problems which are well documented.But... Who thought at the start that Smiley would be this good. Who thought that Jackson would be hitting as well as he does. Who thought that Berry could play?

I think they will turn it around, and I think some of the issues will resolve favorably, but my concern is not the individual performances but more the locker room. if the room is not going that well then chemistry is a problem and we will not be a factor. If we have good locker room chemistry we should start winning games.
 
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Smyly and Berry are starting to come back to earth. Wait a month on those two, once teams have seen them a time or two. Remember two seasons ago Boesch spent most of the first half of the season going nanners on the American League. He didn't even hit .200 the 2nd half of the year.
 
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Smyly and Berry are starting to come back to earth. Wait a month on those two, once teams have seen them a time or two. Remember two seasons ago Boesch spent most of the first half of the season going nanners on the American League. He didn't even hit .200 the 2nd half of the year.

Yes of course but 'im happy for now and don't forget, valverde would have been out of that inning but for the error on the catcher would he not.He's not as bad as everyone thinks if you ask me. Peralta is starting to hit, dirks if he can stay healthy, is a plus player, and maybe the bottom of the line up will start to gel a bit more.
 
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Here's what we've got in Toledo

Not much. There's no power to speak of, and the best middle infielder left is another 29-year old in Eric Patterson.

Yes of course but 'im happy for now and don't forget, valverde would have been out of that inning but for the error on the catcher would he not.He's not as bad as everyone thinks if you ask me. Peralta is starting to hit, dirks if he can stay healthy, is a plus player, and maybe the bottom of the line up will start to gel a bit more.

Valverde was brutal last night. 29 fastballs and only 13 of them were strikes. Hit 2 guys and walked 2 more. It was a minor miracle that he didn't give up 3-4 in the 9th. As for the rest of the order, there's not much left in Toledo, so they're going to have to pick it up or we're going to continue to bleed.
 
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Just to note, the only middle infielder doing anything in Erie is Niuman Romero, a 27 year old hitting .304. There's Brent Dlugach, which we've seen before, and Corey Jones, hitting .239.
 
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Nick Castellanos got called up to Erie after hitting .403 in 211 ABs in high-A ball.
 
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*nods*

It was a matter of time before that happened. Now we're going to start to find out if he's for real. If he could play 2nd, he might be in Detroit by now.
 
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Smyly strikes out the side to begin tonight's game!

0 - 0 Tigers coming to bat in the bottom of the 1st.
 
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Cabrera doubles Berry in from 2nd.

Tigers 1 : 0 Tribe
 
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Six pitch inning from Ubaldo. *shakes head*
 
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1st and 3rd with two out. Scoring threat? Not with this lineup. Delmon pops out to right on the first pitch. Inning over. Say goodnight.
 
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Avila looks like he's headed to the DL. C Bryan Holaday was called up. There has to be another move made, as Holaday is not on the 40-man roster.
 
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Okay, here it is:

Avila to the DL, as already stated, Holaday called up, and Holaday will make his MLB debut tonight. Omir Santos was DFA'd to make room for Holaday on the 40-man. Also, Jose Ortega was also called up from Toledo. To summarize:

25-man roster:
Avila to the DL, Santos DFA'd
Holaday and Ortega recalled

40-man roster:
Holaday added, Santos DFA'd
Ortega was already on the 40-man
 
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Boesch butchers a fly ball in RF that would have been the 3rd out. The very next pitch lands in the seats.

3-0 Tribe. We might already be done here tonight, 5 batters in.
 
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Boesch butchers a fly ball in RF that would have been the 3rd out. The very next pitch lands in the seats.

3-0 Tribe. We might already be done here tonight, 5 batters in.

I was gonna say: Is this game over already?
 
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Apparently getting rid of the previous scapegoat means someone new volunteers for the position.
 
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WANTED: Right fielder. Qualifications: Ability to catch pop flies with two outs. Only need .226 or better batting average to apply.
 
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