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Detroit Tigers, Volume 2 - The Charlie Gehringer version

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streaker said:
Terrific win for Detroit. I'll take crying Leyland over crying and praying Yank fans. Oh, and who wouldn't mind slapping the TBS announcers for gushing all over the Yanks? It almost sounded like they were hoping for a dramatic miracle finish. Screw them and screw A-rod- we beat the best team in the A.L. regular season and not ONE eastern division team is left standing. :)
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I was disgusted with that as well. Even while the Yanks were sucking their way through the last 2 innings (the Tigers are 80-0 with a lead after 7) they were talking in hushed tones about the Yanks "devastating lineup" and spouting crap like "they're going to take the lead any second now with the tying run on." It makes me all the more happy to end their season.
 
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Bronco said:
Absolutely agree about the hurt part, but Young is better then Rayburn. I hope he is OK, since the Rangers are a better team than the Yankees.
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Young has a better, more accurate arm, but after watching him near-daily for the better part of three years, I still have a panic attack any time the ball is hit to right field with Delmon back there.

I actually like the way Detroit matches up with Texas. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like Detroit has put up some huge offensive numbers against them, especially at home, in recent years.

I didn't think the announcing was that terrible. If you're going to say that every time they said the Yankees were good was gushing and every time they said the Tigers were good was a jinx, don't you think you're maybe searching for a bias? Ron Darling's familiarity with the Yankees was probably ten times what it was for the Tigers, but I actually thought John Smoltz was pretty good on color.
 
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MaizeRage said:
but I actually thought John Smoltz was pretty good on color.
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Agreed. In Game 2, he said "You have to careful with the first pitch to Young," and he hit it out. Dumb luck, sure, but it made him look good.
 
I feel the same way whenever a ball is hit to Rayburn. I am sure it is selective memory, but it feels like Rayburn has made many more defensive f ups than Young.

I agree that it felt like the announcer was throwing out every possible stat on the Tigers success in the hope that the Yanks came back.

As for the Rangers, I see that the Tigers have dominated the season series, with Ugondo being the only starter win a win (3)...I expect he will become a starter for this series.

So, any word on Young?
 
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MaizeRage said:
Young has a better, more accurate arm, but after watching him near-daily for the better part of three years, I still have a panic attack any time the ball is hit to right field with Delmon back there.

I actually like the way Detroit matches up with Texas. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like Detroit has put up some huge offensive numbers against them, especially at home, in recent years.

I didn't think the announcing was that terrible. If you're going to say that every time they said the Yankees were good was gushing and every time they said the Tigers were good was a jinx, don't you think you're maybe searching for a bias? Ron Darling's familiarity with the Yankees was probably ten times what it was for the Tigers, but I actually thought John Smoltz was pretty good on color.
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I didn't have an issue with either Smoltz or Darling. It was the idiot pbp guy. Both of the former MLB players were dead on, almost prophetic at times. I got tired of the pandering for drama (which was more skewed to the Yanks.) I thought that the Tigers weathered the Yanks as much as we had to weather the cliches.
 
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It will be interesting to see how the rotation shakes out. They might have to start Porcello twice...

Game 1 Saturday--Verlander
Game 2 Sunday--Porcello (Fister & Scherzer both pitched Thursday; Scherzer on short rest)
Monday off
Game 3 Tuesday--Fister
Game 4 Wednesday--Scherzer (or Verlander on short rest?)
Game 5 Thursday--Verlander (or Scherzer)
Friday off
Game 6 Saturday--Porcello (or Fister on short rest?)
Game 7 Sunday--Fister (or Scherzer/Verlander on short rest?)

Leyland doesn't like starting pitchers on short rest, and I think he's right about that, but if you don't shorten somebody's rotation, your #4 starter (Porcello) ends up pitching 2 games on the road.
 
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Alton said:
It will be interesting to see how the rotation shakes out.
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You're right, it's an interesting problem. Scherzer only threw 32 pitches Thursday (while Fister threw 90-something and left everything out there), is it possible he starts on Sunday? I would be tempted to go with 3 starters and give JV potentially 3 games. But Leyland won't.

Just looking through the schedule (facts not guaranteed); the Tigers haven't seen TX since early August. Wins over TX were started by Penny (won by Valverde), Scherzer (won by Valverde), Scherzer, Porcello, Scherzer (won by Benoit), and Fister. Losses to TX were started by Verlander, Coke, and Penny. Tigers have done well against them this season.
 
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Figures. It's the first time today that my broadband has wanted to cooperate.

MUhawks628 said:
I'm still trying to figure out why brining in Chocolate Cake for his first ever relif appearence was a "great" idea, but when Leyland brought in Scherzer they questioned it because it was his first bullpen appearence since 2008. Listened to half the series on mute, it was very good for the blood pressure.
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I'll tell you why CC was in the game. There wasn't going to be a Game 6. If you're saving him for the ALCS, you gotta remember one thing: you might want to get there first. Casey Stengel said it best in the 1950's, when asked about using a starter on short rest, if the arm might be tired: "maybe, but he's got all winter to rest up".
 
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Verlander, Scherzer, Fister, and Porcello is the rotation for the first four games.
 
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Games 4 and 5 are 4:19 starts at Comerica Park. Everything else is either 7:45 or 8:05 pm.
 
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Hammer said:
Figures. It's the first time today that my broadband has wanted to cooperate.



I'll tell you why CC was in the game. There wasn't going to be a Game 6. If you're saving him for the ALCS, you gotta remember one thing: you might want to get there first. Casey Stengel said it best in the 1950's, when asked about using a starter on short rest, if the arm might be tired: "maybe, but he's got all winter to rest up".
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Didn't Stengel coach last place teams? ;)

I disagree about using a guy on short rest. He was the only arm (outside of the starter) that we got to. I thought Girardi over managed and could have used his other guys (Hughes etc.) longer. We weren't touching them. I don't know if I am buying his excuse for yanking Nova, either. He danced around A-roid's slump the whole series- why would he come clean now? If he felt he needed a guy to come in late to prevent any more runs, why not use Rivera? He pitched, what- 1 inning the whole series?

That may be the last time you see some of those Yanks in pinstripes, too.
 
streaker said:
Didn't Stengel coach last place teams? ;)

I disagree about using a guy on short rest. He was the only arm (outside of the starter) that we got to. I thought Girardi over managed and could have used his other guys (Hughes etc.) longer. We weren't touching them. I don't know if I am buying his excuse for yanking Nova, either. He danced around A-roid's slump the whole series- why would he come clean now? If he felt he needed a guy to come in late to prevent any more runs, why not use Rivera? He pitched, what- 1 inning the whole series?

That may be the last time you see some of those Yanks in pinstripes, too.
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I definitely feel he made a couple too many trips to the mound, but that's why he gets paid the big bucks. I felt that any time a pitcher walked a guy or gave up a hit it was like Girardi got to be a nervous wreck and yanked them.

I have no idea what to say about Arod other than he better do some soul searching this winter and decide to earn his paycheck next season. Atrocious year from him, even taking into account the injuries and whatnot.

I hope they bring posada back but he may be the old horse in a full stable. Montero showed LOTS of promise at the end of the season, and I could see him coming in and playing a DH role possibly and mixing in some time behind the plate with Martin and Cervelli. I think Romine will head back to AAA ball for atleast another year, or may become trade bait. I will say I feel pretty comfortable with the youth this team has, and they MAY not need to go out and bag every high profile free agent in the next few years. Not saying they won't, but they might be able to actually use more home grown talent than store bought.
 
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Delmon is off the ALCS roster, with Danny Worth taking his spot.
 
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Jackson, Raburn, Cabrera, Martinez, Ordonez, Avila, Peralta, Santiago, Inge is the lineup tonight. Verlander on the hill.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Delmon is off the ALCS roster, with Danny Worth taking his spot.
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That's trouble. We needed him in the lineup at least to keep Texas from pitching around Miggy and Martinez. This is where losing Boesch really hurts, too.
 
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More rain...only down one now.
 
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hasnt' it spent about the last 6 years not EVER raining in texas? whats up with that?
 
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