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Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

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Kepler said:
To be fair I did not specify hair color, but...

BTW that, that right there, above, is money, not smart, and that's why it's not fun, it's painful and nasty. It thinks it's smart because it's about someone (ostensibly) smart but it's through the filter of Hollywood, which is the worst kind of money since it thinks it's smart and clever but is really only cynical and predictably, predatorially witty in those angry short sharp sentences because it read Dorothy Parker when it was at prep school because... it is money.
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The movie clip? It was smart because it took him to the woodshed for being the insufferable weasel that he is. I might have missed your point though. :)
 
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I had read this earlier but had to verify - turns out its true. Bill Clinton lost 10 out of the first 11 contests in 1992 (although he did pick up delegates along the way). Only when the primaries moved down South around Super Tuesday did he start killing it. Back then the primary winners were divided as well between Jerry Brown, Tom Harkin, and Paul Tsongas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
 
state of hockey said:
Agreed. The neighborhoods vary greatly. I'll answer using the two neighborhoods that are the most dangerous, Frogtown (StP) and North (MPLS)

1. North
2. North

I use the term dangerous because the area around Lake and Hiawatha in MPLS technically has more crime, but North has more violent crime.
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One of my wife’s best friend has two brothers on the SPPD, they tell her that 5th St and Cedar is the most dangerous intersection in all of St. Paul for non-traffic related issues. It’s a big LRT and bus hub there. They mentioned it to her because her husband works right in that area, about a block over (downtown St. Paul).
 
unofan said:
The only times it's been thrown out regularly on this board are for flaggy and you. But nothing I say is going to dissuade you since I'm a proud member of a state bureaucracy, so whatever. I'm not clicking on random links from you, though. You've posted too much batshiat insanity to have earned that trust.
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Name one thing i’ve Said that isn’t backed up by facts (investigative reporters with burnished credentials). Just because you may not know mintpress news, consortiumnews, who what why, Gary Webb, Whitney Webb and others doesn’t mean they’re conspiracy sites or people. In fact i’d Bet anything you won’t find factual errors in their reporting. Trust me, the NYTimes and WAPO try to find errors and cannot come up with anything.
 
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state of hockey said:
I use the term dangerous because the area around Lake and Hiawatha in MPLS technically has more crime, but North has more violent crime.
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The basic rule of thumb is:

Best Property: buy where there's property crime
Best Party: go where there's violent crime
 
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I can't imagine there is anybody on the Cafe who will vote for Dump. I would guess 90% of us will vote for the Dem nominee and the other 10% will not vote or vote for a third candidate. I'm willing to bet every one of the frequent posters except SJHovey and Drew vote for the Dem. Even Rube. And especially trix and solo.

Loony Lefty, Crazy Conspiracy Theory, or Dull Centrist, none of us are going to miss a chance to end the Nazi regime without firing a shot.
 
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Kepler said:
I can't imagine there is anybody on the Cafe who will vote for Dump. I would guess 90% of us will vote for the Dem nominee and the other 10% will not vote or vote for a third candidate. I'm willing to bet every one of the frequent posters except SJHovey and Drew vote for the Dem. Even Rube. And especially trix and solo.

Loony Lefty, Crazy Conspiracy Theory, or Dull Centrist, none of us are going to miss a chance to end the Nazi regime without firing a shot.
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We'll see.

I certainly won't vote for Trump. Didn't before and I see no reason to now.

I won't vote for Bernie. I'd vote third party again before that. My main concern with Bernie would be if the D's control the House and Senate. If not, I don't really care whether he's POTUS.

I'd vote for Klobuchar, as I have numerous times in the past here in Minnesota. Same for Bloomberg, notwithstanding his position on the 2nd Amendment. I'd probably vote for Pete. No chance for Warren, Biden or the rest.
 
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Kepler said:
I can't imagine there is anybody on the Cafe who will vote for Dump. I would guess 90% of us will vote for the Dem nominee and the other 10% will not vote or vote for a third candidate. I'm willing to bet every one of the frequent posters except SJHovey and Drew vote for the Dem. Even Rube. And especially trix and solo.

Loony Lefty, Crazy Conspiracy Theory, or Dull Centrist, none of us are going to miss a chance to end the Nazi regime without firing a shot.
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This. Bernie is not my first choice, but if it's him I'm in like there's no tomorrow. Same with all five/six of them, they all have their own set of strengths, to say nothing of the fact that they're all functioning adults, which is more than enough this time around.
 
Kepler said:
I can't imagine there is anybody on the Cafe who will vote for Dump. I would guess 90% of us will vote for the Dem nominee and the other 10% will not vote or vote for a third candidate. I'm willing to bet every one of the frequent posters except SJHovey and Drew vote for the Dem. Even Rube. And especially trix and solo.

Loony Lefty, Crazy Conspiracy Theory, or Dull Centrist, none of us are going to miss a chance to end the Nazi regime without firing a shot.
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Solo’s “so long brah” message to dump after Bernie (or insert nominee here) shellac’s him: https://youtu.be/FNcxj54qtyk
 
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SJHovey said:
I won't vote for Bernie. I'd vote third party again before that. My main concern with Bernie would be if the D's control the House and Senate. If not, I don't really care whether he's POTUS.
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I respect your opinion and your values, but let me ask you this. Is there any reasonably likely (say, > 5%) set of circumstances under which Bernie would be a more dangerous president than Dump? I completely get that his ideology and his (my) preferred policies revolt you. But those policies still lie within the boundaries of democratric government and rule of law. My appeal to you is that no matter how "wrong headed" you think him, Bernie will not end democracy or the world. And Dump actually could.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm not sure Sanders official team has grasped the extent to which their supporters are impacting voter behavior. Lots of people at Warren and Pete town halls I talked to were weighing a Sanders vote but said they were turned off by the culture and crowds <a href="https://t.co/zagwsttcuO">https://t.co/zagwsttcuO</a></p>— Sam Stein (@samstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1227737071223263233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm not sure Sanders official team has grasped the extent to which their supporters are impacting voter behavior. Lots of people at Warren and Pete town halls I talked to were weighing a Sanders vote but said they were turned off by the culture and crowds <a href="https://t.co/zagwsttcuO">https://t.co/zagwsttcuO</a></p>— Sam Stein (@samstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1227737071223263233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Not possible. There is no such thing as these types of Bernie fans it is all made up Twitter stuff :p (speaking as a Bernie fan the True Believers are awful)

Kep,

Hovey is voting in Minnesota his third party vote won't count. Unlike Collins or Murkowski Hovey will definitely vote against what he dislikes especially when it doesn't matter. (and it doesn't Minnesota won't be within 5 points)
 
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French Rage said:
This. Bernie is not my first choice, but if it's him I'm in like there's no tomorrow. Same with all five/six of them, they all have their own set of strengths, to say nothing of the fact that they're all functioning adults, which is more than enough this time around.
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Agree. If it’s bernie, I become a disciple to the maple syrup messiah the next day.
 
Handyman said:
Not possible. There is no such thing as these types of Bernie fans it is all made up Twitter stuff :p (speaking as a Bernie fan the True Believers are awful)

Kep,

Hovey is voting in Minnesota his third party vote won't count. Unlike Collins or Murkowski Hovey will definitely vote against what he dislikes especially when it doesn't matter. (and it doesn't Minnesota won't be within 5 points)
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I hope you’re right about MN, since I like to say I’m from the state that has the longest voting streak for Dems, but how is it going to go from a 1.5% win to 5+%? The simple fact Clinton isn’t the Democratic candidate?
 
psych said:
I hope you’re right about MN, since I like to say I’m from the state that has the longest voting streak for Dems, but how is it going to go from a 1.5% win to 5+%? The simple fact Clinton isn’t the Democratic candidate?
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That, and hopefully people going "Oh dang, so this is what can happen when I don't show up."
 
psych said:
I hope you’re right about MN, since I like to say I’m from the state that has the longest voting streak for Dems, but how is it going to go from a 1.5% win to 5+%? The simple fact Clinton isn’t the Democratic candidate?
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Yes. Trump had everything going for him (Minnesota was a Bernie State in a huge way) including no Senators running and he still lost. Even Bloomberg won't be as bad locally as Hillary was. And with a Senator up he is in real trouble.

That won't stop people from thinking the opposite especially when the media tells them as such like they do every 4 years.
 
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