Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Good for her. Treat them like the cultish children they are. Engage the candidate instead.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

The media is NOT the Democrats friend. All the coverage is pro Trump right now. Especially the way they describe Bernie.

 

[Handyman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In NH Sanders supporters start to boo <a href="https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@amyklobuchar</a> . <br><br>She responds "Hi, Bernie people!"</p>— Tom D'Angora (@TomDangora) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomDangora/status/1226533115331518466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That can't be. Kepler told me those people don't exist

(note the emoticon SUNY-Hipster )

 

[Handyman]

Sure. Most folks maybe got a $100 tax cut. Yippee!!!!!

Meanwhile, Trump's tariffs are costing households an extra $1600 per year.

Vote your wallet. But maybe you won't, cause Susie waved at you in the airport.

No one said they understood the facts...they just see the short term gain in their paycheck and think it matters. They probably think paying ten bucks for the car wash they don't need to save ten cents a gallon matters too

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

That can't be. Kepler told me those people don't exist

(note the emoticon SUNY-Hipster )

SUNY-Hipster is Purchase. We answer to SUNY-Anorak.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

The Great Affordability Crisis Breaking America
In one of the best decades the American economy has ever recorded, families were bled dry.
The problem the Democrats have right now is not that they're on the wrong side of things and how this country should be managed, but they're failing to communicate what Americans want and need to hear. Despite everything written here consumer confidence is UP. How is that even possible?

Get the message out there.

I’ve been thinking about this for years. This article sums it up nicely. We elevate a standard and someone makes it impossible to afford.

Want to go to a great school like MIT? It used to cost $50k when I applied. That seemed reasonable given the doors it opened. Now? We have expensive condos that cost $1,600 a month going up at Minnesota instead of affordable public student housing. I just about give myself a stroke every time I drive down there I get so upset. The university did this. They let these things go up because they don’t care. it’s all a ****ing scam now. It costs the average kid probably $30-$40k a year to go to Minnesota now. That’s unreasonable. It’s just not reasonable. The regents forgot who they’re there for: the students.

Childcare, a coworker told me the costs and I just about fell out of my chair. For a non-home-based provider it can run thousands a month for each kid. How can anyone afford kids? How does the working class fire out five kids and have money to do literally anything?

It’s all so insane.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Well, today's reports/video should just about finish off Joe. Good riddance. He really blew this.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Well, today's reports/video should just about finish off Joe. Good riddance. He really blew this.

Que pasa?

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Que pasa?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After a New Hampshire voter asks <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeBiden</a> why they should trust he can turn his campaign around, he asks if she’s ever been to a caucus before; when she says yes, Biden snaps: "No you haven’t. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier." <a href="https://t.co/3uxOAu0Ues">pic.twitter.com/3uxOAu0Ues</a></p>— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) <a href="https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1226577362562752513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So far it only seems like right-wingers are jumping on this, but this is like the third or fourth time he's just straight up insulted someone on the campaign trail.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After a New Hampshire voter asks <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeBiden</a> why they should trust he can turn his campaign around, he asks if she’s ever been to a caucus before; when she says yes, Biden snaps: "No you haven’t. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier." <a href="https://t.co/3uxOAu0Ues">pic.twitter.com/3uxOAu0Ues</a></p>— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) <a href="https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1226577362562752513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So far it only seems like right-wingers are jumping on this, but this is like the third or fourth time he's just straight up insulted someone on the campaign trail.

It's not an insult, it's a joke from a John Wayne movie. But obviously you can't do that sh-t.

 

[rufus]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Joe doesn't seem quite ready for prime time. You wonder whether he thought this was just gonna be handed to him. Like Hillary in '16.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

It's not an insult, it's a joke from a John Wayne movie. But obviously you can't do that sh-t.

Ah. Then that explains why the tone of the room was light hearted.

Still, a weird way to try to segue into the downfalls of the caucus system.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Joe doesn't seem quite ready for prime time. You wonder whether he thought this was just gonna be handed to him. Like Hillary in '16.

More like Hillary in 08. Or Jeb! in 16. or Teddy in 80.


There have been a bunch of them just waiting for coronation. They're still waiting.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Ah. Then that explains why the tone of the room was light hearted.

Still, a weird way to try to segue into the downfalls of the caucus system.

Yeah, you can't do stuff that just cries out to be willfully misinterpreted. And doing a cold reference to an actor who was making films in the 30s isn't exactly down with the kids.

 

[huskyfan]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Well, today's reports/video should just about finish off Joe. Good riddance. He really blew this.

Joe should have run in '16. Or '08 if he wanted to be president.

Anyone buying into the idea (getting a lot of press lately) that Hillary is quietly waiting for the other Dems to crater so she can step into the role of nominee? She and Bill are described as "nuclear cockroaches" - they survive anything.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Joe should have run in '16. Or '08 if he wanted to be president.

Anyone buying into the idea (getting a lot of press lately) that Hillary is quietly waiting for the other Dems to crater so she can step into the role of nominee? She and Bill are described as "nuclear cockroaches" - they survive anything.

No. That's just a right wing talking point to gin up rage against dragons that just aren't there.

 

[Slap Shot]

I’ve been thinking about this for years. This article sums it up nicely. We elevate a standard and someone makes it impossible to afford.

Want to go to a great school like MIT? It used to cost $50k when I applied. That seemed reasonable given the doors it opened. Now? We have expensive condos that cost $1,600 a month going up at Minnesota instead of affordable public student housing. I just about give myself a stroke every time I drive down there I get so upset. The university did this. They let these things go up because they don’t care. it’s all a ****ing scam now. It costs the average kid probably $30-$40k a year to go to Minnesota now. That’s unreasonable. It’s just not reasonable. The regents forgot who they’re there for: the students.

Childcare, a coworker told me the costs and I just about fell out of my chair. For a non-home-based provider it can run thousands a month for each kid. How can anyone afford kids? How does the working class fire out five kids and have money to do literally anything?

It’s all so insane.

Exactly. And this thread is somewhat a microcosm of my complaint. Instead of talking abut the issues and messages needed to defeat Trump we're falling into the hands of the media and our opponents who want to only focus on the follies.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Anyone buying into the idea (getting a lot of press lately) that Hillary is quietly waiting for the other Dems to crater so she can step into the role of nominee?

No. Please stop listening to Rush and Hannity, it makes me respect you less.

 

[MissThundercat]

Re: Democratic Challengers 9: Can we climb this mountain? I don't know.

Joe should have run in '16. Or '08 if he wanted to be president.

Anyone buying into the idea (getting a lot of press lately) that Hillary is quietly waiting for the other Dems to crater so she can step into the role of nominee? She and Bill are described as "nuclear cockroaches" - they survive anything.

No. That's just a right wing talking point to gin up rage against dragons that just aren't there.

No. Please stop listening to Rush and Hannity, it makes me respect you less.

Also no. And yes, please stop listening to right wing radio. It's not healthy.

 

[unofan]

Joe should have run in '16. Or '08 if he wanted to be president.

Anyone buying into the idea (getting a lot of press lately) that Hillary is quietly waiting for the other Dems to crater so she can step into the role of nominee? She and Bill are described as "nuclear cockroaches" - they survive anything.

No. And it's not "getting a lot of press lately," stop believing everything right wing nutjobs sell you.