Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

So.....Obama's executive orders can be repealed by Trump....but Trump's executive orders can't be repealed in your lifetime by the next Prez? Um, how does that work again?

I'm 100% sure all his executive orders will be repealed. Assuming of course the Democrats win. And when the Democrats lose again they'll be repealed again. I'm also 100% certain the middle and lower classes will never get their 23 Trillion dollars back.

 

[Rover]

Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

I'm 100% sure all his executive orders will be repealed.

. However, I think what Trump has done has permanently altered that for my lifetime at least.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

We basically get another Obama term where we spend (4) years fixing the debt and getting nothing progressive done.

As long as Trump is out.
But you do you...

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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He has forever altered the world we live in. If you can't see that, good for you. Do you honestly believe that after Barr and Trump the next President is going to give back the power gain? Do you honestly believe that the United States will be treated on the World Stage after Trump the same way they were before Trump?

Rover, I honestly think you under state 1. Trump's impact on the World, and 2. The Presidency of the United States impact on the World.

I appreciate you wanting to sweep it all under the rug but the world does not work that way.

And why is is so confusing to you is befuddling. You think after a Democrat gets elected everything just snaps into Obama's 3rd term? Really? How naive.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

Honestly, who here thinks we can put Iran back into the bottle?

 

[mookie1995]

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Honestly, who here thinks we can put Iran back into the bottle?

just airdrop all those white power cadets into iran and let them kill all the bad guys

 

[Deleted member 3166]

Honestly, who here thinks we can put Iran back into the bottle?

Everything can change. It will take time and work but it all can change.
Nothing is permanent.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

just airdrop all those white power cadets into iran and let them kill all the bad guys

I've always thought we should just pack up our white nationalists and their families and release them in Africa and tell them to go play "Man Who Would Be King." Hey, if they're right about their racism then 25,000 members of the Master Race ought to be able to "civilize" a billion fuzzy wuzzies, right?

 

[Kepler]

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Honestly, who here thinks we can put Iran back into the bottle?

What do you mean by back in the bottle? Allow them to gradually claw back the elected government we overthrew? Yes. Restore Zoroastrianism? Might take longer but, sure, all gods wax and wane.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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What do you mean by back in the bottle? Allow them to gradually claw back the elected government we overthrew? Yes. Restore Zoroastrianism? Might take longer but, sure, all gods wax and wane.

Entirely depends on your opinion of Kerry/Obama's Iran deal. Which is now gone. And I seriously doubt Iran will ever sign anything again that involves the United States.

 

[mookie1995]

I've always thought we should just pack up our white nationalists and their families and release them in Africa and tell them to go play "Man Who Would Be King." Hey, if they're right about their racism then 25,000 members of the Master Race ought to be able to "civilize" a billion fuzzy wuzzies, right?

West Africa first.
Some in Iran too
The stans could use some upstanding whitey forces too.

Fire and forget

 

[Handyman]

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A “centrist” wants Biden? Shocking. Next up on the 10pm news, woman wearing confederate flag bikini is opposed to impeachment

You know we really need to stop with this insult of anyone who calls themselves a centrist. There are more people in the center than on the fringes and the more we **** on them the more likely we are to lose. That is why the Centrist has been leading since the beginning and cant seem to be killed by conventional weapons.

I am not a Centrist but I will **** sure acknowledge there are more of them than there are of us and we need them to win. Scooby may whine about Amy wanting to work for the other side but if that is what people want to hear then screw it. trix might pretend that only Saint Bernard of Vermont can lead us out of Exile and into the Land of Milk and Honey and that a vote for Biden is a vote for Trump but the facts dont seem to back that up in any way.

We dont have to like the views of the centrists, but they are no more invalid than ours. And we cant win without them. Win first...worry about the the rest later.

 

[Rover]

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He has forever altered the world we live in. If you can't see that, good for you. Do you honestly believe that after Barr and Trump the next President is going to give back the power gain? Do you honestly believe that the United States will be treated on the World Stage after Trump the same way they were before Trump?

Rover, I honestly think you under state 1. Trump's impact on the World, and 2. The Presidency of the United States impact on the World.

I appreciate you wanting to sweep it all under the rug but the world does not work that way.

And why is is so confusing to you is befuddling. You think after a Democrat gets elected everything just snaps into Obama's 3rd term? Really? How naive.

Scoobs, let me expand your mind a little bit. The damage Chump has done can't be undone all right, but its what he's done to the GOP. They are now the Nazi party. Anybody who's not into racial purity has already hit the door. The Republican coalition used to be rural dwellers plus educated well off suburbanites. Now they're hemorrhaging the educated people and the party unquestionably becomes a cult. Much like there's no "one foot in the door and one foot out" for the Moonies or the Scientologists, its now the same for the Republicans.

So, even with a Biden Presidency and 50 seats in the Senate, the entirety of the Chump administration goes away with 1) repealing his idiotic tax cuts (the only law he actually got passed) which everybody from Manchin on down should be okay with since they all voted against the tax cuts in the first place, and 2) an executive order on Day 1 rescinding all Chump executive orders. Done and done. Then you immediately pass a non-controversial for all Dems robust voting rights package making illegal shenanigans like voter roll purges, one voting booth in the inner city vs 1,000 in rural areas, etc etc. That cuts the balls off the GOP who will only become angrier, older, and whiter but less plentiful as their aging base continues to go meet their Maker (Satan in this case).

If 4 years of Chump wakes up this country to the difference between Democrats and Republicans, than it might end up being less of a disaster than we thought. Unlike Bush II's Iraq fiasco, which we're still paying for, nothing of Chump's outlives him except for maybe that hickey he put on Kim Jong-un's rear end.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

You know we really need to stop with this insult of anyone who calls themselves a centrist. There are more people in the center than on the fringes and the more we **** on them the more likely we are to lose. That is why the Centrist has been leading since the beginning and cant seem to be killed by conventional weapons.

I am not a Centrist but I will **** sure acknowledge there are more of them than there are of us and we need them to win. Scooby may whine about Amy wanting to work for the other side but if that is what people want to hear then screw it. trix might pretend that only Saint Bernard of Vermont can lead us out of Exile and into the Land of Milk and Honey and that a vote for Biden is a vote for Trump but the facts dont seem to back that up in any way.

We dont have to like the views of the centrists, but they are no more invalid than ours. And we cant win without them. Win first...worry about the the rest later.

I’ll respect a centrist when I find one who actually is one, instead of a conservative. I’ve yet to find one. I’m sure they exist somewhere, though.

You don’t need to remind me of this. I’m obviously voting for Biden If he’s it. Any I’m not insulting anyone on here- my words aren’t going to make a centrist say gee, maybe Biden isn’t the answer

 

[Kepler]

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There are more people in the center than on the fringes

This is very much in question. At this point the right are Nazis so there really is nobody in the "center" ("Well, we're not Nazis but we're willing to consider them a legitimate alternative to a democratic liberal western state.") No! If you're OK with Nazis even in principle you are a Nazi and you want them to win.

It's not 1982 anymore, Handy. There is no center and there shouldn't be. One side of our political battle has turned its back on American principles and lurched back to the cave. This isn't debating on McLaughlin Group anymore, it's dealing with the people who want to burn the Reichstag.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I’ll respect a centrist when I find one who actually is one, instead of a conservative. I’ve yet to find one. I’m sure they exist somewhere, though.

You don’t need to remind me of this. I’m obviously voting for Biden If he’s it. Any I’m not insulting anyone on here- my words aren’t going to make a centrist say gee, maybe Biden isn’t the answer

This.

The center has moved so far right it doesn't exist anymore.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

This is very much in question. At this point the right are Nazis so there really is nobody in the "center" ("Well, we're not Nazis but we're willing to consider them a legitimate alternative to a democratic liberal western state.") No! If you're OK with Nazis even in principle you are a Nazi and you want them to win.

It's not 1982 anymore, Handy. There is no center and there shouldn't be. One side of our political battle has turned its back on American principles and lurched back to the cave. This isn't debating on McLaughlin Group anymore, it's dealing with the people who want to burn the Reichstag.

Not completely agreeing with the left doesn't make someone " on the right." That's where the center is. It isn't all black and white here...there is a TON of gray.
There is a center and no it can't be ignored.

 

[Handyman]

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This is very much in question. At this point the right are Nazis so there really is nobody in the "center" ("Well, we're not Nazis but we're willing to consider them a legitimate alternative to a democratic liberal western state.") No! If you're OK with Nazis even in principle you are a Nazi and you want them to win.

It's not 1982 anymore, Handy. There is no center and there shouldn't be. One side of our political battle has turned its back on American principles and lurched back to the cave. This isn't debating on McLaughlin Group anymore, it's dealing with the people who want to burn the Reichstag.

If that was the case why the hell is Biden winning? Why is Pete doing well? If the world is as you say it is Bernie should be crushing and Warren should be his only challenger. If there is no center, why are Centrist candidates doing ok?

Center-Left is still center. You know how I know, because everyone to the left of them tells me so. You cant have it both ways.

Your fatal flaw is you only listen to the noise. You assume the loudest voices are the only ones that count or exist. That isnt true, and the numbers are bearing it out. The spectrum still exists. There is just a lot of people who dont make a lot of noise.

You know this which is why you are preaching kumbaya these days. If all the Dems needed was the Progressives and the Socialists we wouldnt be having these issues. They need the Biden voters, they need the Hillary voters, they need the Amy people and everyone else. And guess what all of their voters get classified as...Centrists.

And FWIW I know plenty of centrists.

 

[Kepler]

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If that was the case why the hell is Biden winning?

Inertia. TPTB have an investment. Same reason why Hillary won in 2016.

Why is Pete doing well?

Cuz he's a d-mn fine candidate, or at least he is until you start digging.

Also, there are very powerful forces who will do virtually anything to stop Sanders and even Warren. The Plutocracy is real. They went to a lot of effort to destroy our American economic democracy and they are going to fight like hell to keep the heists going.

You are misunderstanding what I mean when I saw there's no "center." I recognize there are tons of Moderates. But Moderates are only "between" Liberals and Nazis in the sense that 8 is between 5 and 28,000,000. Being a Moderate in this reality means being as committed as a Liberal to destroying the Republican party as an existential threat to American democracy.

 

[Handyman]

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Not completely agreeing with the left doesn't make someone " on the right." That's where the center is. It isn't all black and white here...there is a TON of gray.
There is a center and no it can't be ignored.

This.

The ignoring/demonizing of the gray is why the Far Left always has issues.

But apparently according to Scooby Amy Klobuchar and her supporters are all Righties...since the center is now far right.