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Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

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dxmnkd316 said:
Roses and stars?
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The rose is an old socialist symbol re-adopted by Bernouts. The stars are supposed to indicate you're a chest-thumping, jingoistic, military ball-washing, "constitutional conservative patriot" I guess.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Donald Trump is the best you could do?

SIT THE F--CK DOWN!
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I don't think it's a bad point. 4 years to come together as a party, groom a candidate or have a strong pool of candidates and we get Joe Biden? Certainly not inspiring.
 
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J.D. said:
I don't think it's a bad point. 4 years to come together as a party, groom a candidate or have a strong pool of candidates and we get Joe Biden? Certainly not inspiring.
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So then who the **** are you proposing?
 
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#IDoNotLikeJoeBiden

Given everything we know about foreign social media influence the last few years, you might say it's...

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J.D. said:
How does a particular city make voting difficult? Aren't they governed by the law in regard to how to handle voters?
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You've got to be kidding with this question. You sound like you are the poster child for willful blindness. That elections are controlled at a local level (usually counties)is one of the biggest problems with federal elections in the country. If they were run at least at the state level they might be a little easier to monitor for the rampant unfairness in many places, especially places where a majority or large minority of the voters are either poor or people of color.
 
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The Rube said:
You do realize that every law has a loophole, or that every law doesn't happen to cover everything, right? Right?
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And that the local pols have their lobbyists and buddies in the state Congress to pass laws to make it easier for them. Which an R governor will sign, of course, especially one as obnoxious as Greg Abbott has been. Perry and Shrub look moderate in comparison.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
You've got to be kidding with this question. You sound like you are the poster child for willful blindness. That elections are controlled at a local level (usually counties)is one of the biggest problems with federal elections in the country. If they were run at least at the state level they might be a little easier to monitor for the rampant unfairness in many places, especially places where a majority or large minority of the voters are either poor or people of color.
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Yes, willful blindness because I don't know how every city handles voters and what laws they are breaking because they don't want certain people to vote. Should be pretty easy to capture, cell phones are magical these days.
 
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Or give me an example of a law that is unfair when it comes to voting
 
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J.D. said:
Or give me an example of a law that is unfair when it comes to voting
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I know I’m going to regret this


Voter ID
Purges
No early voting
Fewer polling places
No national holiday
Caucuses
 
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The only thing you should regret is some of the things you listed. But just starting right off the bat, the idea that asking for identification (when this happens in so many other areas in life) is somehow wrong when it comes to voting is absolutely ridiculous. And it's not like voter ID is specific to the US either.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I know I’m going to regret this


Voter ID
Purges
No early voting
Fewer polling places
No national holiday
Caucuses
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TX has Voter ID, but everyone knows that going in, so that was a non-issue.
There was early voting
No idea the number of polling places, but if I heard the news right tonight, you can go to any polling place you want.

The biggest issue was a decision agreed upon by both parties against the objections of the election commission. They had separate voting machines for Republicans and Democrats, which was unnecessary since you could access either ballot on the machines. I technically used a Republican one in Dallas County since there were zero Republicans actually voting at that time, so the kid told me to use it, but make sure I put my ballot printout in the correct counting machine. I'm guessing the places with a higher turnout enforced that rule a lot more strict.

EDIT: WFAA story on it...
 
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I should add there have been studies that contradict voter ID laws allegedly suppressing minority voters while also contradicting that voter ID laws prevent voter fraud. But the general idea of requiring identification is not some outlandish, unheard of concept. Happens in day to day life all the time.
 
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