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DEAD THREAD 2017: "This guy here is dead!"..."Cross him off, then!"

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He was a pimp. Just the most successful pimp of all time. He commercialized pimping.

He's not to be revered. He's meant to be forgotten.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
He was a pimp. Just the most successful pimp of all time. He commercialized pimping.

He's not to be revered. He's meant to be forgotten.
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I revere him for the impact he had on our social culture. Like it or not, he IS our social fabric (also see Cash, Johnny). Both were not saints. But they were America, down to the core. The good and the bad, the right and the wrong.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I don't know if there was a person who did more to promote and hurt women at the same time. I'd say he was just another smut-peddler, but meh.
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Apparently you never read the articles. ;)

He truly was an iconic member of an American society of a different era, warts and all.
 
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joecct said:
I read the article.
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At one time, many of the articles were top-notch. A host of high-quality authors wrote superb pieces; the list of names includes plenty we'd all recognize.

and the cartoons were pretty good, too.

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Joseph Heller.
Roald Dahl.
Ian Fleming.
Gabriel Garcia Márquez
Margaret Atwood.
Haruki Murakami.
Norman Mailer.
Ray Bradbury (serialization of Fahrenheit 451)
Kurt Vonnegut
Shel Silverstein
Joyce Carol Oates


Some of the interviews were ground-breaking for a mainstream publication (Alex Haley interviews Miles Davis; Malcolm X interviewed...see USA today article link for more details)



USA Today article from two years ago about the literary quality of Playboy: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/10/13/yes-people-did-buy-playboy-articles/73890020/
 
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FreshFish said:
At one time, many of the articles were top-notch. A host of high-quality authors wrote superb pieces; the list of names includes plenty we'd all recognize.
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Playboy followed Sports Illustrated's arc. It started out taking a trivialized male obsession and pulling it not just into the mainstream but into the Harvard Club. Look at SI's early editions -- the sports stories are about fly fishing, golf, yachting, and Ivy League football. Likewise, Hefner was inverting class assumptions about porn. The target audience was Roger Sterling.

Also just like SI, Playboy eventually succumbed to the gravity of marketing to the LCD. I don't know if the rot set in before Hustler or was a response to actual sales erosion.

Hefner became a self-parody later in life, but in his day he did something very significant. He may have had perfect timing or he may have made his own timing. Either way, good on him for his early years. I respect a man who laid every beauty end to end and who also looked like J. R. "Bob" Dobbs. I'll raise a toast to him, or something else.
 
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In honor of his passing, they are asking that flags be augmented and peroxided.
 
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French Rage said:
In honor of his passing, they are asking that flags be augmented and peroxided.
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with a staple in the middle? ;)
 
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Brenthoven said:
Both were not saints. But they were America, down to the core. The good and the bad, the right and the wrong.
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You can no longer be that in America.

The minute you are "wrong" in the eyes of the cause celebre du jour, no matter how much good you may have done, you are an irredeemable pariah.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
You can no longer be that in America.

The minute you are "wrong" in the eyes of the cause celebre du jour, no matter how much good you may have done, you are an irredeemable pariah.
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I assume your sympathy card for Anthony Weiner is in the mail?
 
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The Sicatoka said:
You can no longer be that in America.

The minute you are "wrong" in the eyes of the cause celebre du jour, no matter how much good you may have done, you are an irredeemable pariah.
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It has never been any different. It just used to be that people didn't give a sh-t about the things they care about now.
 
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Joe Tiller, 74
 
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Hugh Heffner
Joe Tiller
Monty Hall

A strange group of three, but three nonetheless.
 
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NHL PBP announcer Dave Strader, 62.
 
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SteveP said:
I am absolutely crushed by the news. Strades was one of the greats and a true gentleman.
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I grew up on a steady diet of Dave Strader and Mickey Redmond on Channel 50, calling Red Wings games in the 80's to mid 90's.

I knew Strader was in bad shape.
 
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