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DEAD!! All right, who died now?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">R.I.P. Greg Lake. Second member of Emerson, Lake and Palmer to die this year. Keith Emerson was the other. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ELP?src=hash">#ELP</a> <a href="https://t.co/tEzD5X1JMk">pic.twitter.com/tEzD5X1JMk</a></p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/806861772124725248">December 8, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">R.I.P. Greg Lake. Second member of Emerson, Lake and Palmer to die this year. Keith Emerson was the other. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ELP?src=hash">#ELP</a> <a href="https://t.co/tEzD5X1JMk">pic.twitter.com/tEzD5X1JMk</a></p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/806861772124725248">December 8, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Photo from the "Fanfare for the Common Man" video shoot at Stade Olympique in Montreal circa 1977.

Tremendous sadness today in Effingwoods ... and then there was :one :(
 
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Mercury Astronaut and American Hero John Glenn:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: John Glenn, former NASA astronaut and U.S. Senator for Ohio, has died at the age of 95, Ohio Gov. says. <a href="https://t.co/TpQv1O4jUF">pic.twitter.com/TpQv1O4jUF</a></p>— ABC News (@ABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC/status/806958013701615617">December 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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2016 is really piling up the famous people body count. We have 23 days left in the year, what's the over/under in these remaining days?
 
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2016 hasn't just taken the famous - it's taken absolute titans or larger than life members from their respective milieu. Bowie, Prince, John Glenn Frey, George Martin, Safer, Ali, Arnie, Gordie, Summitt, Buddy, Cruyff (if you're a Euro football fan), Bud Collins with no disrespect meant to anyone I missed.
 
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?

2016 hasn't just taken the famous - it's taken absolute titans or larger than life members from their respective milieu. Bowie, Prince, John Glenn Frey, George Martin, Safer, Ali, Arnie, Gordie, Summitt, Buddy, Cruyff (if you're a Euro football fan), Bud Collins with no disrespect meant to anyone I missed.

You could type for the next hour and still probably miss somebody.

RE: John Glenn. I knew when I saw the story in the Detroit News last night that he was in trouble.
 
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My theory is this is only going to escalate. Fame took off in the mid-20th century and it's been only expanding ever since. Eventually somebody famous will die every day because there will be just so many celebrities.

This also means somebody famous is probably already being born every day.
 
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I dunno. Fame took off in sometime in the 30's, as radio really took hold, and then moved on to TV in the late 40's/early 50's. This year there seemed to be a great harvesting of talent, if you will.

There's some really big names in the sports world alone that are on the wrong side of 75-80 that are going to be in one of these threads before too long.
 
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?

I dunno. Fame took off in sometime in the 30's, as radio really took hold, and then moved on to TV in the late 40's/early 50's. This year there seemed to be a great harvesting of talent, if you will.

There's some really big names in the sports world alone that are on the wrong side of 75-80 that are going to be in one of these threads before too long.

Well, regardless of when the line started bending north, it's only been increasing. People also view popular media now practically 24/7. That percentage has been climbing for the last century.

Fame is probably also broader as well as deeper. There aren't just more famous actors -- there are also more media to be famous in, and from more places as pop culture internationalizes.

And what is fame but marketing, so as the number of entities trying to get something from you by attracting you with a "star" increases, the overall cubic footage of "fame" increases. Basically, fame is undergoing constant inflation because it is not in anyone's interest to limit or deflate it except those who hold fame currency, and they rely on the fame machine to stay relevant.

"Fame! I'm gonna live til Tuesday." -- The Commitments
 
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Well, then what will happen is simple. Unless a really big start drops, eventually a lot of these "famous" deaths will start to be reacted to with increasingly higher levels of "meh". When Willie Mays goes, that's a big one. Same with Mick Jagger. Clint Eastwood and Robert Redford will get the same treatment. But when a B-level singer/movie star/ball player drops off, you're going to get more of a "meh" as time goes on.
 
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?

Well, then what will happen is simple. Unless a really big start drops, eventually a lot of these "famous" deaths will start to be reacted to with increasingly higher levels of "meh". When Willie Mays goes, that's a big one. Same with Mick Jagger. Clint Eastwood and Robert Redford will get the same treatment. But when a B-level singer/movie star/ball player drops off, you're going to get more of a "meh" as time goes on.

We get a lot of the "meh" reactions for many of these people already. The bar will simply move even further up the scale.
 
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?

Well, then what will happen is simple. Unless a really big start drops, eventually a lot of these "famous" deaths will start to be reacted to with increasingly higher levels of "meh". When Willie Mays goes, that's a big one. Same with Mick Jagger. Clint Eastwood and Robert Redford will get the same treatment. But when a B-level singer/movie star/ball player drops off, you're going to get more of a "meh" as time goes on.

That's already happening. Nobody who died this year had a death with anywhere near the impact of Valentino or Lindbergh. Not even Ali.

Is there anybody alive today whose death will be earth shaking -- who will make the traffic stop pretty much everywhere? QE2, maybe. I can't think of anybody else.
 
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That's already happening. Nobody who died this year had a death with anywhere near the impact of Valentino or Lindbergh. Not even Ali.

I'm not so sure about that. He might be one of the last few that reached such a zenith, but Ali had global impact. Not Donald Trump exaggeration YUGE, but a bona fide global reach. Perhaps he had faded a bit by the time of his passing, but his legend was immediately rekindled the day of and those that followed his passing.
 
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That's already happening. Nobody who died this year had a death with anywhere near the impact of Valentino or Lindbergh. Not even Ali.

Is there anybody alive today whose death will be earth shaking -- who will make the traffic stop pretty much everywhere? QE2, maybe. I can't think of anybody else.

Probably not a global impact, but Bob Barker will stop me in my tracks. I attribute my math skills to him. That show has numbers, numbers everywhere.

Shigeru Miyamoto is a close second.
 
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Probably not a global impact, but Bob Barker will stop me in my tracks. I attribute my math skills to him. That show has numbers, numbers everywhere.

Shigeru Miyamoto is a close second.

Jon King and Andy Gill are going to hurt, but Bob Murphy and Ralph Kiner have inured me to pain.
 
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Probably not a global impact, but Bob Barker will stop me in my tracks. I attribute my math skills to him. That show has numbers, numbers everywhere.

Once he and Betty White die I'll be convinced that immortality is an impossibility.
 
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Mercury Astronaut and American Hero John Glenn:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: John Glenn, former NASA astronaut and U.S. Senator for Ohio, has died at the age of 95, Ohio Gov. says. <a href="https://t.co/TpQv1O4jUF">pic.twitter.com/TpQv1O4jUF</a></p>— ABC News (@ABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC/status/806958013701615617">December 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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The last of the Mercury 7. You had to be alive in the early 60's to appreciate what these men meant to the American people.
 
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