DC Sexual Assault Thread: We needed one...

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

That's absolutely horrible. I can't even imagine how terrifying that was being a young woman just starting a career and having a partner assault you. I hope he got what was coming to him. Sounds like you've done quite well since then and haven't let it hold you back.

My company did everything by the book, and fast, once it was reported and multiple witnesses confirmed .
But it was terrifying as I was so young. Now years later id only have to control my rage before reporting immediately.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I want you to go out and talk to women and hear their stories and get educated. And then you may well still hold to the same line of thinking. And that will make you a loathsome f-ckstick. But for now you may simply be ignorant. Talk to women. Crawl out of your own as-s.

I imagine you don't need to go too far to find someone a woman in your life who has been subjected to this. I know a number of women I know personally who have been subjected to this at work including my own mother.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Do you understand what happens when a woman reports these kinds of incidents? Especially when the person is in a position of extreme power over them? You need not look beyond the Weinstein case to know that these men have money and power and will use it to crush accusers. Regardless of the truth. The power goes to their head and they do it more often.

I’m one of the lucky ones that I reported and my company supported me.
But other women are threatened to be blackballed from their industry. Or accused of dressing the wrong way, or yelled at about why they reported it when they did.
Hard for women to win and guys like Tim here are a big part of the problem.

 

[Kepler]

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My company did everything by the book, and fast, once it was reported and multiple witnesses confirmed .
But it was terrifying as I was so young. Now years later id only have to control my rage before reporting immediately.

One good thing that has changed is companies that are not run by complete scumbuckets are now afraid to intimidate or ignore victims. When a woman at a Fortune 500 company is harassed or assaulted the company is OK as long as it runs the case through a transparent HR review with institutional controls. If it just does the "hurr, hurr, women are hysterical" 1970 Era Act then it can be fined for violations by EOC not to mention sued by the victim. Those things have changed for the better.

Of course, small companies run by Real 'Murican f-cktards will humiliate, threaten, and/or fire the victim and then join ranks and just lie about her if there's a third party investigation. And since they typically either run a town (like Hollywood) or are a product of a misogynistic culture (like a red state) they can depend on authorities to back them up.

Worst comes to worst, they can always kill the b-tch.

 

[Kepler]

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I imagine you don't need to go too far to find someone a woman in your life who has been subjected to this. I know a number of women I know personally who have been subjected to this at work including my own mother.

When you start talking to women about it it's amazing. When I asked Dr. Mrs. why she never told me about what it was like she said "I just assumed everyone knew."

Well, I didn't know. But I know now, and my advice to anyone like Timothy is if you're ignorant get educated before you make an as-s of yourself with your lame "well, actually" --ism.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I’m one of the lucky ones that I reported and my company supported me.
But other women are threatened to be blackballed from their industry. Or accused of dressing the wrong way, or yelled at about why they reported it when they did.
Hard for women to win and guys like Tim here are a big part of the problem.

The women can't win. Like you said, if they come forward they are subjected to further harassment by the accused, likely have their personal life laid bare for everyone to see, and are often slandered. If they don't come forward, you have people like Tim who ask "Why didn't they come forward"

It's a horrible choice.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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I've witnessed one disgusting "handy*" event in my life. I watched at a social event where my cousin (who worked for the same organization) was groped by a manager.

I walked over, looked at the guy, smiled, and said, "That's my cousin. By the look on her face she didn't appreciate that. You'd be wise to apologize and report yourself."

I got the, "Do you know who I am" response and stare.

I said, "Yup. With that attitude, you're the body."

"What do you mean 'the body'."

Me (pointing): "That moving mountain of a man coming this way is her husband and he also saw what you did. I'd say you should take my approach or else you're going to be the body."


* handy, as in groping, not that Handy.

 

[joecct]

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The ever eloquent (and somewhat clueless) Prof. Higgins had something to say on the matter:

https://youtu.be/iQGH9zereFc

https://youtu.be/Doz5w2W-jAY

 

[Handyman]

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They can't go to the police? They couldn't go hire a lawyer?

Works real well on college campuses doesnt it.

Stop thinking like a male, think like someone who doesnt have the power in any way.

 

[Timothy A]

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I’m one of the lucky ones that I reported and my company supported me.
But other women are threatened to be blackballed from their industry. Or accused of dressing the wrong way, or yelled at about why they reported it when they did.
Hard for women to win and guys like Tim here are a big part of the problem.

I'm the problem? Re-read my first post. I wrote go report it right away and put a stop to it. That is what you did, you and I are on the same page. If everyone reports it right away, it stops. More women need to be like you. I commend you. It's a culture change and it's going to be hard, but it has to happen.

 

[Handyman]

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I'm the problem? Re-read my first post. I wrote go report it right away and put a stop to it. That is what you did, you and I are on the same page. If everyone reports it right away, it stops. More women need to be like you. I commend you. It's a culture change and it's going to be hard, but it has to happen.

Do you understand what happens most of the time when this gets reported? Stop being so simplistic...

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I'm the problem? Re-read my first post. I wrote go report it right away and put a stop to it. That is what you did, you and I are on the same page. If everyone reports it right away, it stops. More women need to be like you. I commend you. It's a culture change and it's going to be hard, but it has to happen.

I understood your post. You’re assuming everyone is like me and able to report. That’s nowhere near the truth.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Most of these reprobates are married males. Where are their wives?

These wives, although not the problem, should not be putting up with husbands that do that crap. Call him out on it and demand better, or call the divorce attorney and make it legal record why you cut the jamoke loose.

 

[Kepler]

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Most of these reprobates are married males. Where are their wives?

These wives, although not the problem, should not be putting up with husbands that do that crap. Call him out on it and demand better, or call the divorce attorney and make it legal record why you cut the jamoke loose.

I'm sure they appreciate you taking time out from your busy day to provide your input.

Jesus F-cking Christ, do you folks ever listen to yourselves? You're in Fish territory for your Very Deep Concern.

 

[Kepler]

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I'm the problem? Re-read my first post. I wrote go report it right away and put a stop to it. That is what you did, you and I are on the same page. If everyone reports it right away, it stops. More women need to be like you. I commend you. It's a culture change and it's going to be hard, but it has to happen.

Yes, you're the problem. Your whole shtick is old and tired. You're a loathsome f-ckstick.

Say it with me once, laughing boy: a victim bears NO responsibility for sexual harassment or assault, nor is it incumbent upon her to do ANYTHING. Insistence to the contrary is only part of the Bad Olde Days when tools like you took it upon themselves to be the adjudicators of a woman's actions, demeanor and ultimately worth.

Those days are gone. Sorry, but you don't ever get to enjoy them, as much as a "man" like you no doubt feels he is entitled to.

Now, here's some friendly advice. Shut it down for a bit before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. Go talk to women, hear their stories. Listen, don't talk (this will likely be impossible for you). Hear, don't judge. And then maybe after ten or fifteen such interactions you might come back here and say, "hey, I'm not a bad guy and I had no idea the idiocy I was speaking. I'm here to support you, not to try to be a controlling as-shole."

 

[unofan]

I'm the problem? Re-read my first post. I wrote go report it right away and put a stop to it. That is what you did, you and I are on the same page. If everyone reports it right away, it stops. More women need to be like you. I commend you. It's a culture change and it's going to be hard, but it has to happen.

Go **** yourself.

Most of these reprobates are married males. Where are their wives?

These wives, although not the problem, should not be putting up with husbands that do that crap. Call him out on it and demand better, or call the divorce attorney and make it legal record why you cut the jamoke loose.

You too.

 

[Kepler]

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Go **** yourself.



You too.

In a way it's kinda neat. Like a seashell where if you put your ear to it you hear 1975.

 

[Timothy A]

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Do you understand what happens most of the time when this gets reported? Stop being so simplistic...

That's why I said it was a culture change. Maybe this will be the stepping off point for that, who knows. If we just sit here and accept the bad behavior, how will it ever change?

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And let's be clear, I only said the victims were the problem because they didn't report it. Of course no one does anything to deserve that kind of treatment. Re-read the post again people. It's crazy how this board has gone from one of friendly mature discussion to hammer someone after you half read a post then make 854 assumptions. Can't anyone read more than 50 words before comprehension shuts down? Give me a break.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Most of these reprobates are married males. Where are their wives?

These wives, although not the problem, should not be putting up with husbands that do that crap. Call him out on it and demand better, or call the divorce attorney and make it legal record why you cut the jamoke loose.

I would say that 90% of the harassment I got was from married men. Nearly all while we were traveling. Room numbers slipped to me on a piece of paper, lewd remarks, attempts at grabbing, etc. I don’t think the wives had any idea.
I’ve never felt a need to be married, coincidentally.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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That's why I said it was a culture change. Maybe this will be the stepping off point for that, who knows. If we just sit here and accept the bad behavior, how will it ever change?

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And let's be clear, I only said the victims were the problem because they didn't report it. Of course no one does anything to deserve that kind of treatment. Re-read the post again people. It's crazy how this board has gone from one of friendly mature discussion to hammer someone after you half read a post then make 854 assumptions. Can't anyone read more than 50 words before comprehension shuts down? Give me a break.

Do you understand why you can't blame the victim? Or really ever use anything that resembles "aren't the victims partly to blame here?"

It's really hard to get past the first sentence when the first sentence is the equivalent meteor landing in Central Park.