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DC Sexual Assault Thread: We needed one...

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That $17 million tax payer expense sexual misconduct slush-fund the House had, well, suddenly it seems far too underfunded.
 
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Women: He asked me if I wanted to have his baby.

Franks: What?!!! I was just asking if they wanted to act as a surrogate for my wife and I. Completely innocent.
 
rufus said:
Women: He asked me if I wanted to have his baby.

Franks: What?!!! I was just asking if they wanted to act as a surrogate for my wife and I. Completely innocent.
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And my religion forbids artificial insemination because it’s evil!
 
Rover said:
The problem is bigger than just having robust union representation (which I fully support). The problem is the concentration of high paying, high skilled jobs in the same handful of places.

Used to be manufacturing was done all over the country, and it was easier to standardize a union wage for work say building cars whether you were in Flint or Buffalo or Gary. Nowadays if you're in high tech, biotech, finance, energy, medical research, etc -most likely you're in a cluster with a bunch of other people in the same field. That gives you bargaining power, because you can easily get a job at a competitor without having to relocate and those industries aren't trying to complete on cost of labor.

If you're not in one of these places, and you work in a one industry or one company region, you have little bargaining power. A union in this case would help you achieve a livable wage, but would struggle to get you to earn as much as your high flying counterparts who are being fought over by multiple companies in the same place. This is the problem of stagnating wages, which also prevents a remedy for income disparity. If Kep gets canned by Citigroup in NYC, he can take his act to JP Morgan. If Kep gets canned in Toledo from the one car manufacturing plant left, where does he go? Nowhere, so most likely he puts up with miniscule pay increases because he's happy to just have a job.
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But again how is this going to mandate women ask for and accept the same salary men (??) get?
 
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joecct said:
Possibly a negative perception of unions is their long association with criminal elements and the misappropriation of union dues?
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Found out Thursday that our old local president was "embezzling" money (embezzling in quotes since everything he did was within our constitution and by-laws...it was just shady as **** since we never had any money to do anything that benefited the membership, like arbitrate grievances). Also had some shoddy financial record keeping, and we will definitely be audited by the IRS.

The Sicatoka said:
That $17 million tax payer expense sexual misconduct slush-fund the House had, well, suddenly it seems far too underfunded.
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I think we can all agree that 0 tax payer dollars should go to pay these off.
 
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We have an executive assaulter and legislative pervs, let's see what's up with judicial harrassers.
 
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Aren't the accusers part of the problem? For each male pig that did something to harass a woman, had that first woman contacted whatever authority was available (a boss, a boss's boss, the police or a lawyer or multiple) and busted his balls right then and there, the likelihood of future transgressions would have been much much less. Instead for many reasons (including their own personal gain in some cases), they just write it off and it just continues to happen to others, and instead of 1 person affected it's many many more.
 
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Timothy A said:
Aren't the accusers part of the problem? For each male pig that did something to harass a woman, had that first woman contacted whatever authority was available (a boss, a boss's boss, the police or a lawyer or multiple) and busted his balls right then and there, the likelihood of future transgressions would have been much much less. Instead for many reasons (including their own personal gain in some cases), they just write it off and it just continues to happen to others, and instead of 1 person affected it's many many more.
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1. No.

2. Jesus Christ, dude. The f-ck is your problem?

3. Just no.
 
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mookie1995 said:
But again how is this going to mandate women ask for and accept the same salary men (??) get?
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That would then be on the company to see if they're systematically paying women less than men for the same job, a study they could easily do, and then adjust accordingly. In your hypothetical the company would be giving her more than she was willing to ask for (or reduce the pay of all the males :eek:)
 
Kepler said:
1. No.

2. Jesus Christ, dude. The f-ck is your problem?

3. Just no.
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Jesus. I hope he’s never my boss.
Two months into my career at a big 4, a partner tried to remove my undergarments over my clothes at a work dinner. I was 22 and scared and if not for a strong female manager I was lucky to have, I’m not sure I would have reported it. I ended up having to move clients and went thru a lot of crap all because I was treated like that.
 
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Kepler said:
1. No.

2. Jesus Christ, dude. The f-ck is your problem?

3. Just no.
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Once you get past my opening line (which I know is fantastic), how does what I wrote not make sense? Aren't we saying to our kids just to shut up and take it and get therapy 10 years later vs standing up for what is right and attacking what is wrong when it happens?
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Jesus. I hope he’s never my boss.
Two months into my career at a big 4, a partner tried to remove my undergarments over my clothes at a work dinner. I was 22 and scared and if not for a strong female manager I was lucky to have, I’m not sure I would have reported it. I ended up having to move clients and went thru a lot of crap all because I was treated like that.
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:(

That's absolutely horrible. I can't even imagine how terrifying that was being a young woman just starting a career and having a partner assault you. I hope he got what was coming to him. Sounds like you've done quite well since then and haven't let it hold you back.
 
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Timothy A said:
Once you get past my opening line (which I know is fantastic), how does what I wrote not make sense? Aren't we saying to our kids just to shut up and take it and get therapy 10 years later vs standing up for what is right and attacking what is wrong when it happens?
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Do you understand what happens when a woman reports these kinds of incidents? Especially when the person is in a position of extreme power over them? You need not look beyond the Weinstein case to know that these men have money and power and will use it to crush accusers. Regardless of the truth. The power goes to their head and they do it more often.
 
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Timothy A said:
Once you get past my opening line (which I know is fantastic), how does what I wrote not make sense? Aren't we saying to our kids just to shut up and take it and get therapy 10 years later vs standing up for what is right and attacking what is wrong when it happens?
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You're either ignorant or a loathsome f-ckstick, so let's start with the former assumption until you prove otherwise.

Victims are typically younger, physically weaker, less valued in their company and/or community, a member of a biased-against gender, the authorities are incentified to ignore or diminish the claim against someone powerful who can make their lives miserable and in any case authorities typically come from the same f-cked up reactionary and/or hyper-religious mindset that treats women like male accessories.

And you want to put the onus on the victim?

I want you to go out and talk to women and hear their stories and get educated. And then you may well still hold to the same line of thinking. And that will make you a loathsome f-ckstick. But for now you may simply be ignorant. Talk to women. Crawl out of your own as-s.
 
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