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Days Since Last Shooting II
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solovsfett
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Re: Days Since Last Shooting II
I'm finding it very difficult to believe no motive has been found. What's with the omission of the note or any reference to it by the Feds? This guy left clues and I'm not buying the wacko "he's isis" crap that's been floating around for a week.
I'm finding it very difficult to believe no motive has been found. What's with the omission of the note or any reference to it by the Feds? This guy left clues and I'm not buying the wacko "he's isis" crap that's been floating around for a week.
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I read somewhere the note wasn't a note, but a bunch of numbers and they were trying to figure out if they had any meaning.
I read somewhere the note wasn't a note, but a bunch of numbers and they were trying to figure out if they had any meaning.
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solovsfett
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Was he trying to find the island on Lost?
Re: Days Since Last Shooting II
It might give us something to prevent a future attack such as this. Yes, I'm an optimist.
It might give us something to prevent a future attack such as this. Yes, I'm an optimist.
bronconick
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Re: Days Since Last Shooting II
There was a meh movie about this
That one ended with a solar flare wiping out all life on earth.
There was a meh movie about this
That one ended with a solar flare wiping out all life on earth.
Handyman
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People like that dont need a reason. And knowing why Muslim Terrorists do it doesnt help prevent it. People ant wrap their head around a seemingly normal white dude going postal so they need to find the pattern in the chaos. He is a murderous toolbag nutjob who isnt worth the brain power.
People like that dont need a reason. And knowing why Muslim Terrorists do it doesnt help prevent it. People ant wrap their head around a seemingly normal white dude going postal so they need to find the pattern in the chaos. He is a murderous toolbag nutjob who isnt worth the brain power.
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It's worth a shot. Worst case? People die anyway. Best case? We ID the issue and somehow prevent something. Gotta try, though. Better than doing nothing.
It's worth a shot. Worst case? People die anyway. Best case? We ID the issue and somehow prevent something. Gotta try, though. Better than doing nothing.
bronconick
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Re: Days Since Last Shooting II
We've had hundreds, if not thousands of these. The only difference was the number of bodies.
We've had hundreds, if not thousands of these. The only difference was the number of bodies.
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And we've taken on a new attitude on mental health, if anything. It is a start....
And we've taken on a new attitude on mental health, if anything. It is a start....
bronconick
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Huh? Taking any attitude about mental health would require spending actual dollars. Mental health is what gets brought up when white men kill to bypass discussing guns, then ignored when the budget gets addressed.
Huh? Taking any attitude about mental health would require spending actual dollars. Mental health is what gets brought up when white men kill to bypass discussing guns, then ignored when the budget gets addressed.
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Society has started to realized the various conditions and starting to treat them. Are we close to (for lack of better word) fixing the problem? No. But we are now making people aware of these issues and starting to look into treatments. Depression is the big one, that I have noticed. There are others out there, and it's a slow process. At least we are starting something.
Society has started to realized the various conditions and starting to treat them. Are we close to (for lack of better word) fixing the problem? No. But we are now making people aware of these issues and starting to look into treatments. Depression is the big one, that I have noticed. There are others out there, and it's a slow process. At least we are starting something.
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Re: Days Since Last Shooting II
While it is a good thing that we are paying more attention to the problem of mental illness, we are never going to be able to understand, predict or prevent someone as mentally ill as the Vegas shooter from going off the deep end. Or at least we are far enough away from being able to you may as well say it is effectively never.
I get a kick out of the republicans who throw out there the same tired nonsense that it isn't about removing weapons like what were used in Vegas it's all about mental health care (as if they give a real fvck about health care anyway). It is naive to believe this person, who by all of the accounts we have heard from people allegedly close to him -- a brother, a girl friend -- never displayed real signs he was capable of such a murderous rampage could have been prevented from doing something horrific if he just had received the 2017 version of mental health care. We don't know enough about the human brain to understand what could make someone open fire on hundreds of strangers who were no threat to him and injure or kill hundreds. In 2017 the only way this massacre could have been prevented was if the means of killing so many people so quickly were unavailable. Period.
The truth is these things are going to keep happening. Over and over again. My guess is somewhere there is someone with the same level of mental illness who has been twisted into believing that there is some reason he (probably a he) needs to go on a rampage and kill dozens, or maybe hundreds of innocent people. In fact I'd be surprised if as much time passes before it happens again as happened between the Pulse Nightclub killings and what happened in Las Vegas. And whoever this person is, I bet there are people close to him who will express surprise and disbelief that he was capable of doing it.
While it is a good thing that we are paying more attention to the problem of mental illness, we are never going to be able to understand, predict or prevent someone as mentally ill as the Vegas shooter from going off the deep end. Or at least we are far enough away from being able to you may as well say it is effectively never.
I get a kick out of the republicans who throw out there the same tired nonsense that it isn't about removing weapons like what were used in Vegas it's all about mental health care (as if they give a real fvck about health care anyway). It is naive to believe this person, who by all of the accounts we have heard from people allegedly close to him -- a brother, a girl friend -- never displayed real signs he was capable of such a murderous rampage could have been prevented from doing something horrific if he just had received the 2017 version of mental health care. We don't know enough about the human brain to understand what could make someone open fire on hundreds of strangers who were no threat to him and injure or kill hundreds. In 2017 the only way this massacre could have been prevented was if the means of killing so many people so quickly were unavailable. Period.
The truth is these things are going to keep happening. Over and over again. My guess is somewhere there is someone with the same level of mental illness who has been twisted into believing that there is some reason he (probably a he) needs to go on a rampage and kill dozens, or maybe hundreds of innocent people. In fact I'd be surprised if as much time passes before it happens again as happened between the Pulse Nightclub killings and what happened in Las Vegas. And whoever this person is, I bet there are people close to him who will express surprise and disbelief that he was capable of doing it.
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I understand and agree with your post. However, this happens 10, 20 years ago? We just dismiss as "crazy" and move along. I'd like to hope that we stopped another attack by recognizing some sort of sign, some sort of behavior, and getting that person some help.
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