Days Since Last Shooting II

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

You keep being you.

You quoted Reagan. He didn't.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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You quoted Reagan. He didn't.

That's not a Reagan quote.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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That's not a Reagan quote.

Who is Mark Twain?

 

[The Rube]

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You quoted Reagan. He didn't.

The term was popularized in United States by Mark Twain (among others), who attributed it to the British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

Try again. And his response was rather childish and added nothing.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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The term was popularized in United States by Mark Twain (among others), who attributed it to the British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

Try again. And his response was rather childish and added nothing.

I thought it added more than your quote. And quoting Mark Twain is pretty close to Reagan politics. That folksy vibe that gets us into North Korea.

 

[The Rube]

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I thought it added more than your quote. And quoting Mark Twain is pretty close to Reagan politics. That folksy vibe that gets us into North Korea.

By stating that anyone (left or right) can hand-pick statistics to satisfy their point of view? That's worse than a "herpaderp?" If you say so. Jebus.

 

[Handyman]

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Does it?

Yes. For all the talk about Chicago and Detroit and their massive rates of gun violence (cause of dem Darkies!!!) take a look at the (no pun intended) darkest areas on the map. You could literally take that map and superimpose it on a map of the Confederacy and they would almost match. Dem Good Ole Boys just cant stop shooting each other...

 

[Handyman]

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Yeah, it says that when you put people in close proximity to others, they'll kill each other more often than if they have space to be by themselves*. Except in New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada, then they'll just kill each other for the heck of it.



*not the actual causation

Well what else is there to do there?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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By stating that anyone (left or right) can hand-pick statistics to satisfy their point of view? That's worse than a "herpaderp?" If you say so. Jebus.

By doing that you turn statistics into Fake News. Just like we've turned Science into fake news. Pretty soon we'll have to ask some combine in Kentucky what our government policies should be on all topics.

 

[Handyman]

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By doing that you turn statistics into Fake News. Just like we've turned Science into fake news. Pretty soon we'll have to ask some combine in Kentucky what our government policies should be on all topics.

Well the nerds already did that with sports...why not politics

 

[The Rube]

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By doing that you turn statistics into Fake News. Just like we've turned Science into fake news. Pretty soon we'll have to ask some combine in Kentucky what our government policies should be on all topics.

Hence the quote, "Lies, dam lies, and statistics." Do we all have to walk you through it?

 

[St. Clown]

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By doing that you turn statistics into Fake News. Just like we've turned Science into fake news. Pretty soon we'll have to ask some combine in Kentucky what our government policies should be on all topics.

Actually, when it comes to societal issues, when you pull a single stat and use it as the gold standard proof, you're doing the same exact thing only with a different false standard. You need to look at a great number of statistics, run them through analyses, and then determine which actually come through as meeting the necessary confidence interval. Only then can you say with certainty which matter.

But it does make for a fun clickbait headline.

 

[GrinCDXX]

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By stating that anyone (left or right) can hand-pick statistics to satisfy their point of view? That's worse than a "herpaderp?" If you say so. Jebus.

By dismissing a particular stat with that cliche, it comes across as saying "I'm not capable of distinguishing a useful stat from a not useful stat, so I'm going to dismiss all stats." That adds nothing.

 

[The Rube]

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By dismissing a particular stat with that cliche, it comes across as saying "I'm not capable of distinguishing a useful stat from a not useful stat, so I'm going to dismiss all stats." That adds nothing.

I didn't dismiss any particular stat. There were a couple thrown out there. It's more of a warning on what to actually believe when it comes to stats. Are we the safest country b/c of that 1000 gun stat? Or are we not because of deaths per (whatever number it was) due to guns?

One must pay attention to many details and consider many stats.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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By dismissing a particular stat with that cliche, it comes across as saying "I'm not capable of distinguishing a useful stat from a not useful stat, so I'm going to dismiss all stats." That adds nothing.

And eliminates stats from public policy. Just like we've eliminated science from public policy. Good plan. Reagan is smiling.

 

[GrinCDXX]

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One must pay attention to many details and consider many stats.

Couldn't agree more, I just don't think that cliche is actually a short hand for what you're saying now.

 

[The Rube]

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Couldn't agree more, I just don't think that cliche is actually a short hand for what you're saying now.

IMO it is, but will not push it, because it's a trivial thing.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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More investigative reporting on the situation: https://www.infowars.com/vegas-shooting-an-isis-attack-evidence-suggests/

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Yes. For all the talk about Chicago and Detroit and their massive rates of gun violence (cause of dem Darkies!!!) take a look at the (no pun intended) darkest areas on the map. You could literally take that map and superimpose it on a map of the Confederacy and they would almost match. Dem Good Ole Boys just cant stop shooting each other...

Ironic that the author of article Kep posted that map from suggested high correlation with this one instead:

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[Kepler]

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Getting warmer:

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