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Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

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alfablue said:
I find it interesting that, for the most part, the one side that wants guns are ok to have innocent people die via the hands of bad people.
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Yep. That's the only reason anyone would want to own a gun.
 
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5mn_Major said:
From your article "In looking solely at the numbers of gun deaths and gun crimes,the data back up Obama, not Fiorina. But both politicians imply a causation that’s impossible to prove — that gun control laws lead to fewer or greater gun crimes or gun deaths. Obama talked about gun deaths, while Fiorina said “gun crime rates,” which could include aggravated assault and robberies."

The first sentence sums it up nicely. But also, seven of the top ten gun murder rate states received a Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence rating of F.

There is a strong correlation between gun deaths and lax gun control.
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Subtract the suicides. The article also talks about that.
 
johnnypohlfan said:
We are implored over and over again to remember that Omar Mateen does not represent all Muslims. But in the eyes of the usual libturds and the media, he does represent all gun owners. Hmm...
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Hey redneck (I can use that since you use libturds),

I'm liberal AND a gun owner AND for more gun regulations.
 
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bronconick said:
Political Correctness caused Orlando, per the NRA
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If you want people who see something to say something, but you're then going to turn repercussions on the reporter because their report is *ist, then "political correctness" truly is a problem. It destroys vocabulary, the transfer of knowledge, and turns people into brainless sheeple.
 
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unofan said:
Where has anyone said or even implied that he represents all gun owners?
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How about the millions of trigger happy (pun intended) keyboard (or microphone) cowboys calling for all this gun legislation because of this one isolated incident? It's no different from the Clinton donor looking to go all Jimmy Carter on people observing a religion.
 
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alfablue said:
I really wonder if one of your family members was in a mass shooting, if you would feel the exact same way.
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Trick question, they would simply stop the mass shooting and go on about their day.

I had a guy at work wondering why someone didn't just pick up a body to use as a shield and charge the guy, because you know, that would be the smart and easy thing to do.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
How about the millions of trigger happy (pun intended) keyboard (or microphone) cowboys calling for all this gun legislation because of this one isolated incident? It's no different from the Clinton donor looking to go all Jimmy Carter on people observing a religion.
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One isolated incident? Are you a ****ing moron? This is is hardly an isolated incident.
 
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alfablue said:
I find it interesting that, for the most part, the one side that wants guns are ok to have innocent people die via the hands of bad people. As there's no real law to prevent it, and no new law will do anything to prevent it. And no law to restrict guns in anyway is constitutional.

I really wonder if one of your family members was in a mass shooting, if you would feel the exact same way.
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I'd feel terrible if a family member of mine was in a mass shooting. I'd feel equally terrible if a family member of mine were killed in a knife attack or by a kid texting and driving. I would demand justice and punishment of the offender and anyone who assisted him or her.

What I wouldn't do is demand that we ban or severely restrict the use of all cellphones or cars or knives.
 
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alfablue said:
I find it interesting that, for the most part, the one side that wants guns are ok to have innocent people die via the hands of bad people. As there's no real law to prevent it, and no new law will do anything to prevent it. And no law to restrict guns in anyway is constitutional.

I really wonder if one of your family members was in a mass shooting, if you would feel the exact same way.
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I've been hit by a drunk driver. Watched a friend's head pop a side window out. The drunk totaled my car.

I didn't get angry at their Chevy Silverado.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Yep. She had the power to stop it all, one call to the police or FBI. Did nothing. This is a person that deserves our collective anger.
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She will be charged. She will be prosecuted. She will be convicted. Send a message.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
She will be charged. She will be prosecuted. She will be convicted. Send a message.
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She probably has a problem with driving him to the nightclub to scope it out. I would think authorities will pursue some sort of conspiracy charge.
 
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I really wish people would stop using the drunk driving comparison. Because drunk driving accidents are accidents. They're not premeditated/planned like this was.

Also, I get the idea of owning a gun to protect your home. My fear there is I own a gun. Someone breaks in. I shoot and kill. I get convicted of murder. Or sued by the robber's family or something.
 
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Getting convicted of murder for shooting someone in your own home when they haven't been invited in is almost nil. Almost.

There was a guy in Minnesota convicted. But there was substantial evidence he executed them after the threat ended.

Ditto in civil court.
 
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Meanwhile here's the NRA's stance.

National Rifle Association: Official Says Government's 'Political Correctness' Led to Orlando Shooting
Chris Cox, NRA Institute for Legislative Action executive director, wrote in USA Today that "political correctness" prevented federal action from being taken against the gunman prior to the attack.
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Scarlet said:
I really wish people would stop using the drunk driving comparison. Because drunk driving accidents are accidents. They're not premeditated/planned like this was.

Also, I get the idea of owning a gun to protect your home. My fear there is I own a gun. Someone breaks in. I shoot and kill. I get convicted of murder. Or sued by the robber's family or something.
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I only do it to point out the machine that takes more lives and how we accept that risk.

And for a nuance moment: Let's not call drunk drivers "accidents". An accident is unforeseeable (or you'd avoid it, right?). Drunks cause crashes. I can't find it now, but Sunday's Fargo Forum had an article stating that Minnesota was going to stop using the word "accident" regarding drunk drivers and call them what they are: crashes. Someone is responsible for a crash. I agree with the view.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Getting convicted of murder for shooting someone in your own home when they haven't been invited in is almost nil. Almost.

There was a guy in Minnesota convicted. But there was substantial evidence he executed them after the threat ended.

Ditto in civil court.
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The Minnesota dude?
He stopped them (defense, legal).
Then he went and got a different gun (murder).
 
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