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Dartmouth Big Green Season 2019-20; Now or Never

Re: Dartmouth Big Green Season 2019-20; Now or Never

GreenBear said:
I think any Dartmouth fan would be OK with 3 points. But unlike years past, it would be more "satisfied and OK with" than "happy about".

Neither team will be easy, but yeah, Cornell especially hungry after losing in Hanover. And even though Colgate hasn't maintained the success they had when they took 4 points in Hanover and Cambridge, they're a good team. Strange that they're better on the road this season, at least to this point. Hope it continues.
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I would have to agree with you as this year's team seems be a little better and maybe with Graber on the back end!
 
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This is a classic example where a loss is OK (I get, its never OK) and one where you give credit to the opposing team. Big Red beats the BG 3-2! Now why do I say given that the Big Red was the better team. BG was unfazed and never trailed until the end. Actually they looked like they belong albeit like I stated Big Red was clearly the better team. One thing for sure this game definitely shows that the gap between the two teams have closed as the BG have slowly closed if not passed that gap on a few ECAC teams. Clark was outstanding again vs the Big Red as they had some great finishes/snipes but they also left a lot on the tables as far as beyond Grade A chances where in some cases they didn't even get a shot off. They will definitely have to clean those up and capitalize on those chances if they want to go deep in the NCAA's which they certainly have the make-up too.

No let down tonight as BG should carry the positives and exact revenge. The first game Colgate spanked the BG and it was even close. Let's GOOOOOO BG!
 
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Somebody on here had better talk up Cam Strong.
Three goals in last three games.
Opened up scoring the last two nights in Ithaca and Hamilton.
#CamStrong
 
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iowabasedtraveler said:
Somebody on here had better talk up Cam Strong.
Three goals in last three games.
Opened up scoring the last two nights in Ithaca and Hamilton.
#CamStrong
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Here you go Iowa! Cam is a player that gets the most out of his ability and that is bottom six. He is one that you are going to know what you get night in and night out! Cam is great on the PK and is always a team-first kind of a guy! He will never put up the gawdy numbers but that certainly doesn't reflect on his worth to BG!
 
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BG ends up with a TIE vs Colgate after never trailing the entire game 3-3! This was a big downer after the previous night's tough loss against the Big Red. As a result of that loss, this game had more significance in the standings and BG could only muster a TIE. This was a pretty even game although BG might have been slightly the better team.

Tidbits:
- What were you thinking Gallant after going around the world in both the neutral and d zone? Backhand pass across the slot in D zone with pressure = back of net
- Graber is NOT a trained D man, bad pinches, bad reads, puck-watching and not attachment; offensively for sure
- Clark looked good again
- Would try to re-visit Graber back up at center; keep him at point on PP; also spot play him on D if need be
- Two top D pair would play heavy minutes; spot play 3rd pair
- Lacking play-makers in neutral and O zone; need some "easy" goals
- Scoring by grind and grunt takes a toll and is finite

Thoughts GB as I know know you are a little upset and rightfully so?
 
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BIG Green said:
Thoughts GB as I know know you are a little upset and rightfully so?
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Yeah, more "slightly frustrated" than anything. Hard to complain about Friday, honestly. They played well, it was a great game, and they were facing one of the elite programs in the nation. Lost 3-2. Obviously, Dartmouth could have won that game, but didn't, and I think it was more Cornell taking the 2 points than Dartmouth giving them away. But against Colgate, who yes are improved, Dartmouth couldn't hold a lead, yeah. It was irritating to lose that game.

I think the tidbits you make are all valid but I don't expect Graber to come off the blueline at this point. But Gallant hasn't been as constant with Foreman and O'Connor--Tyler Campbell took numerous shifts there--so maybe a change is in the works. Doubt it, though.

The good thing is that I saw the ECAC projected standings and they have a 2/3 shot at a top 4 finish. Have to get 4 points this weekend, though--road games or not--to really solidify it.
 
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GreenBear said:
0-2-1 since they made the USCHO rankings.
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Yep I thought about that same concept myself they revert back to individual play vs team play! Either way it is a recipe for disaster and it definitely showed!
 
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Wow is this current BG team a contender or pretender. Based on last night's shellacking losing to RPI, questions are definitely there! It was like Varsity spanking JV and was not even that close. RPI out-everything BG last night. With all due respect to RPI (given their record and middle of the pack standings) this loss makes it doubly worse. There are absolutely no positives in this one and it breaks my heart to say that because I am always a glass half full guy! The D markings and coverage were non existent last night. Lots of losing puck battles and puck watching and of course the usual turnovers. GB, I know you are in favor or this and we slightly disagree on this subject: but Graber is NOT a trained D man and it shows, especially last night. Let's be perfectly clear, it is not Graber's fault. Actually, kudos to him for the better of the team. GB, I am not a stats guy but all optics and even a blind man could have seen how RPI had their way in the BG's D zone. Out of curiosity, what is BG's record once Graber came back full time on the blue line. This even broke up their best pair in Less/Matthews. Additionally, Paloscik is not the same player as he was before and Demler was odd man out. I think O'Connor might have been reading his press clippings in that he is trying skate through the neutral zone with defenders waiting for him. Of course turnovers! Hard to say about Clark as he was hung out to dry but elite ones might have fared slightly better!

I dont know GB! Thoughts???
 
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They're 3-3-2 since Graber returned and was used as a Dman.

They were wretched in their own zone last night. Worst I've seen them look all season save for Maybe the 2nd period of the Harvard game.
 
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4 game road trip. 1 point.

I honestly thought going in that 7-8 points would have been wildly successful, and probably too much to expect, but the way they'd been playing, it could be ruled out. And the way they opened up at Cornell, it really appeared they could approach that.

I thought 6 points was probably the goal, and 5 would be OK. Anything less than that would be a wasted opportunity.

1 point is a disaster.

It's not the end of the world as they'll in all probability get home ice for their first playoff series. But given how much better they are at home than on the road, the first playoff series is looking more and more like it'll be the 5-12 preliminary round, with a trip somewhere for the quarterfinals. And unless something drastic changes, I don't see how Lake Placid and the semis are possible since they can't seem to beat anyone away from Hanover.
 
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GreenBear said:
4 game road trip. 1 point.

I honestly thought going in that 7-8 points would have been wildly successful, and probably too much to expect, but the way they'd been playing, it could be ruled out. And the way they opened up at Cornell, it really appeared they could approach that.

I thought 6 points was probably the goal, and 5 would be OK. Anything less than that would be a wasted opportunity.

1 point is a disaster.

It's not the end of the world as they'll in all probability get home ice for their first playoff series. But given how much better they are at home than on the road, the first playoff series is looking more and more like it'll be the 5-12 preliminary round, with a trip somewhere for the quarterfinals. And unless something drastic changes, I don't see how Lake Placid and the semis are possible since they can't seem to beat anyone away from Hanover.
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Yep dropping like a Led Zeppelin! Not feeling a Whole Lotta Love and this juncture! BG is a mess right now and I hope it is just one of those later in the season lulls to bounce back in March when it counts but boy let lots of potential home ice slip away.
 
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Hey GB! Let's change it up for the sake of the team! How about you write up the post game summary and I will comment on it? Hey anything to reverse the fortunes because as you aptly stated the results are not good and the optics on my end bares that out. Union was slightly the better team until BG decided to play until they just ran out of time. RPI was just in a class by itself...pure ugliness!
 
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BIG Green said:
Yep dropping like a Led Zeppelin! Not feeling a Whole Lotta Love and this juncture! BG is a mess right now and I hope it is just one of those later in the season lulls to bounce back in March when it counts but boy let lots of potential home ice slip away.
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Good times, bad times
You know I had my share
 
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BIG Green said:
Hey GB! Let's change it up for the sake of the team! How about you write up the post game summary and I will comment on it? Hey anything to reverse the fortunes because as you aptly stated the results are not good and the optics on my end bares that out. Union was slightly the better team until BG decided to play until they just ran out of time. RPI was just in a class by itself...pure ugliness!
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For the games I don't attend, I almost always listen to the radio broadcast and then watch through it later (sometimes in depth, sometimes a skim). I don't do detailed recaps for that reason.
 
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GreenBear said:
For the games I don't attend, I almost always listen to the radio broadcast and then watch through it later (sometimes in depth, sometimes a skim). I don't do detailed recaps for that reason.
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Very fair and understandable. I guess I am tired (yourself included) as the only BG fan's chiming in. I would think there is more out there!
 
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BIG Green said:
Very fair and understandable. I guess I am tired (yourself included) as the only BG fan's chiming in. I would think there is more out there!
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Well I'm not a Big Green fan although my cousin is a grad. You have one of the most beautiful campuses in the world. But what's up with attendance? I watched the game tonight on ESPN+ and it didn't look like the rink was more than half full. Was I seeing things? Something big on campus this weekend?
 
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