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D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Is it a secret? Pretty sure it's been announced Salem State, Johnson & Wales and Suffolk are all in the NEHC in 2018-19...

Any ideas on format for '18-'19 NEHC? Will there be 12 teams in two divisions or some other system? Playoffs seeding?
 
Any ideas on format for '18-'19 NEHC? Will there be 12 teams in two divisions or some other system? Playoffs seeding?

UNE and Salve are moving to Colonial in 2018-19. Manhattanville left NEHC for UCHC starting in 2017-18.

NEHC is a 9-team conference starting in 2018-19.

Norwich
Castleton
New England College
Southern Maine
Plymouth State
UMass Boston
Suffolk
Johnson & Wales
Salem State
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

UNE and Salve are moving to Colonial in 2018-19. Manhattanville left NEHC for UCHC starting in 2017-18.

NEHC is a 9-team conference starting in 2018-19.

Norwich
Castleton
New England College
Southern Maine
Plymouth State
UMass Boston
Suffolk
Johnson & Wales
Salem State

Take the 5 team SUNYAC and you have 14.
West - SUNYAC + Norwich & Castleton
East - NEC, USM, PSU, UMB, SUF, JWU, SSU

play your division 2x and 1x against the other for a total of 19 games.

Playoffs 1W v 4E, 2W v 3E, 1E v 4W, 2E v 3W.
Championship at QF survivor with most points
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Take the 5 team SUNYAC and you have 14.
West - SUNYAC + Norwich & Castleton
East - NEC, USM, PSU, UMB, SUF, JWU, SSU

play your division 2x and 1x against the other for a total of 19 games.

Playoffs 1W v 4E, 2W v 3E, 1E v 4W, 2E v 3W.
Championship at QF survivor with most points

Based on Potsdam's 2017-18 schedule, it looks like the SUNYACs are forming something designated as the NEWHL, unless that's some sort of interim thing for this year prior to joining the NEHC under your theory. But why would they have an interim conference and not continue as the ECAC West one last year if they intend to join a pre-established conference?
 
Take the 5 team SUNYAC and you have 14.
West - SUNYAC + Norwich & Castleton
East - NEC, USM, PSU, UMB, SUF, JWU, SSU

play your division 2x and 1x against the other for a total of 19 games.

Playoffs 1W v 4E, 2W v 3E, 1E v 4W, 2E v 3W.
Championship at QF survivor with most points

Nice theory but I think Morrisville and Canton to the SUNY league is much more probable.
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Nice theory but I think Morrisville and Canton to the SUNY league is much more probable.

NEHC had 14 teams the last couple of seasons, leads to an unbalanced schedule: play some teams once, others twice. That throws a wrench into the system for playoff seedings. 9 teams is actually almost perfect: get a home and away with every other team with enough non-conference games to fill the schedule. Also keeps the conference healthy enough that losing the AQ isn't a concern.
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Missed this one in April. LVC has named Matt Yingst, who was previously director of operations for the Hershey Jr. Bears as well as previously worked with the men's program from 1999-2007, as the new women's head coach. Release here.

Unless I'm forgetting someone, it looks like Buff State is the only opening...Buff State had three assistants last year they may not look very far...
 
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Missed this one in April. LVC has named Matt Yingst, who was previously director of operations for the Hershey Jr. Bears as well as previously worked with the men's program from 1999-2007, as the new women's head coach. Release here.

Unless I'm forgetting someone, it looks like Buff State is the only opening...Buff State had three assistants last year they may not look very far...


We can't possibly be done this early in the offseason...can we? Last year there were a few last minute surprises in August!
 
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Where did the Buffalo State coach go? Did she move on to another position? Was she let go or did she leave on her own? Seems like she had the program heading in the right direction.
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Where did the Buffalo State coach go? Did she move on to another position? Was she let go or did she leave on her own? Seems like she had the program heading in the right direction.

My understanding is she left and moved back home to Ontario.
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Can't both the UCHC and the NEWHL claim 5 core member AQ status??

Certainly looks like Canton and Morrisville will eventually be headed to this new conference. That puts the CHC in jeopardy and would make Endicott the perennial favourite in that conference.

If those two schools move over it almost feels like CHC and UCHC would have to work something out to make 2 viable conferences out of that group.
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

Certainly looks like Canton and Morrisville will eventually be headed to this new conference. That puts the CHC in jeopardy and would make Endicott the perennial favourite in that conference.

If those two schools move over it almost feels like CHC and UCHC would have to work something out to make 2 viable conferences out of that group.

If Canton and Morrisville join as everyone is predicting will they drop the NEWHL brand and just become the SUNYAC? NEWHL isn't very unique in terms of initials, lots of chance for confusion and the good URLs are taken by other hockey organizations using it. It's also likely an added expense to maintain a separate conference instead of folding it into a larger one.

As obvious as Canton and Morrisville joining the other SUNYs seem, I have doubts because it seems like if that's what they plan on doing there was plenty of time to have that done and announce them as members with the launch announcement. Unless them joining is on the NEWHL wish list, but those two haven't agreed (or contractually can't agree?) yet...

Can't both the UCHC and the NEWHL claim 5 core member AQ status??

I don't know the criteria for 5 core member status but could the fact that the UCHC has a fairly new program in William Smith compared to the older SUNY programs left in the NEWHL be the reason? Or could it be because the UCHC were the one's to jump ship?
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

If Canton and Morrisville join as everyone is predicting will they drop the NEWHL brand and just become the SUNYAC? NEWHL isn't very unique in terms of initials, lots of chance for confusion and the good URLs are taken by other hockey organizations using it. It's also likely an added expense to maintain a separate conference instead of folding it into a larger one.

As obvious as Canton and Morrisville joining the other SUNYs seem, I have doubts because it seems like if that's what they plan on doing there was plenty of time to have that done and announce them as members with the launch announcement. Unless them joining is on the NEWHL wish list, but those two haven't agreed (or contractually can't agree?) yet...



I don't know the criteria for 5 core member status but could the fact that the UCHC has a fairly new program in William Smith compared to the older SUNY programs left in the NEWHL be the reason? Or could it be because the UCHC were the one's to jump ship?

I always thought you needed 7 teams to keep your AQ?

To your point about the odd name, it makes it easier to accept other teams that aren't SUNY schools, and you certainly have a point about Canton / Morrisville. If those two can't /won't join then all the more reason to use NEWHL as the conference name.....
 
Or could it be because the UCHC were the one's to jump ship?

As far as I know, it's this. The UCHC does not have an automatic bid until 2019-20. NEWHL does and maintains it for 2 years getting a chance to get its membership back up to 7 to keep the AQ.
 
Re: D3 2017 Offseason Thread: Coaching, Conferences, Etc.

I always thought you needed 7 teams to keep your AQ?

They do. But there's a grace period for autobid conferences that break up and fall below 7 teams so that they don't lose it right away, and the question was why the UCHC couldn't claim it instead of the NEWHL

Applicable NCAA bylaw:

31.3.3.1.3 Grace Period.

A period for two consecutive academic years after the date the conference falls
below the seven required institutions but maintains at least four institutions (they must be core institutions
for multisport conferences), in the particular sport. Continued automatic-qualification eligibility shall be as
follows: (Adopted: 1/9/06 effective 8/1/06, Revised: 4/19/06, 5/5/06, 4/13/10)

(a) A conference shall remain eligible for automatic qualification in the particular sport if, by the expiration
of the grace period, the conference has a minimum of seven institutions (for multisport conferences,
at least four shall be core institutions) that sponsor the sport on a varsity intercollegiate basis
and that are eligible for the NCAA Division III championship.

(b) A conference that fails to satisfy Bylaw 31.3.3.1.3-(a) by the expiration of the grace period shall
no longer be eligible for automatic qualification in the particular sport until it again satisfies all
requirements for automatic qualification, including the two-year waiting period set forth in Bylaws
31.3.3.1.1-(a) and 31.3.3.1.1.1-(b).

31.3.3.1.4 Core Institution.

For purposes of Bylaw 31, a core institution is an active NCAA Division
III member institution that is a member of an NCAA Division III conference and participates in that conference
in more than one conference-sponsored sport. An institution may be a core institution in only one
multisport conference. An institution that was considered a core institution in more than one multisport
conference prior to September 1, 2011, may continue as a core institution in those conferences until it is no
longer an active member of the particular conference. (Adopted: 4/13/10, Revised: 1/14/12 effective 8/1/12
for the 2012-13 academic year)
 
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If Canton and Morrisville join as everyone is predicting will they drop the NEWHL brand and just become the SUNYAC?

It's a lot more complicated than that simple assumption.

Let's put it this way. Canton already tried to join the SUNYAC as an all sports member. They were rejected. Despite Morrisville's affiliate status in men's ice hockey and field hockey, the SUNYAC doesn't want affiliate members.

Like I said. It's complicated...
 
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