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COVID-19 - Part 2

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Left wing lunacy is needed to offset right wing lunacy.

Sorry..I dont pretend to know what the entire hold up is about but I am not comfortable with that giant slush fund put together by Mitch...Trump and Steve M will over see that? Where will that money go?

But what's really unconscionable is the fact that Trump in 2018 disbanded the NSC pandemic response team that might have been on this disaster. Then he says he didnt remember anything about doing that in one of his early C-19 pressers (there's video of him announcing that but..) No matter..he was briefed in all of this nightmare "wish they would have told us".

Whatever. The world is a crazy place..going to get even crazier if we ignore the advice of science. Over 60? Better have your ducks in a row. Sorry I am very nervous about this knowing that we are in no way out of the woods.

Darius I thought Dr.B was very uncomfortable yesterday. How is she going to say shes totally fine easing up on restrictions when she surely must know that's a dangerous idea? Will be interesting to hear her take when this is re visited next week.

Welp off to my remote learning classes. Be well.
 
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Darius I thought Dr.B was very uncomfortable yesterday. How is she going to say shes totally fine easing up on restrictions when she surely must know that's a dangerous idea? Will be interesting to hear her take when this is re visited next week.
She will go back to the data, say that is what the President has asked her for. It is for others to provide the President with other, such as economic, advice and for the President to factor it all in to his decisions.
 
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Just wanted to expand on a couple of points from our media reporter Darius :) on yesterday's do ...

The briefings are getting loooong. And later in the day. And BE ON TIME. Not showing up on time is always a bad look when trying to make a good impression. Beyond that and and moments of the the typical BS (Z-pack) and obligatory robotic blow hard bluster, it wasn't bad. Good actually and entertaining which bodes well for the President. Barr was solid. The military logistics guy isn't paid to be a public speaker, but left a good impression. He may not be a great public speaker, but he knows his job and his job is getting stuff. The President completely changed his tune on Asia and China. He didn't say "Chinese Virus". Not once. When asked why, he was firm in stating that he won't tolerate aggression against Asian Americans. Good for him. Let's see if he can keep it up. His track record says not.

My wife tells me Governor Sununu is having the same issue with timeliness. At this point, in what I think all of us will concede is a very fluid situation, it may be as simple as these guys are just flat-out working on a wide range of things, and these briefings are loose recaps of the day's activities. The regular rules have been suspended, so I don't see why we'd expect the President or the Governor to be immune. Frankly, if it was more rehearsed, I'd wonder if he was actually working.

On the China thing … I don't think that's "changing his tune" (although I'm happy you're happy) … is it really that hard to make a differentiation between native Chinese and (especially) their totalitarian regime in charge - whose figures I wouldn't buy for even a second - and Asian-Americans? I don't remember hiding in a corner, cowering in fear when I was a kid, and the media was saying all kinds of nasty things about both sides of "The Troubles" (i.e. Catholics in the ROI, and Protestants in Northern Ireland), being "offended". It's an easy differentiation when your primary identification is as an AMERICAN. Not Irish, not Chinese ... AMERICAN.

We may be done with Dr. Fauci unless the Twittter-sphere is on fire. Dr. Birx? Wow. She's sick (not Covid-19) and tired, medicated or both. She seemed high, in a good way. She and the President had a fun, light rapport. Perhaps when this calms down they will take their show on the road. Or not. As she was speaking towards the end, the President ushered everyone else off the stage and back to work. To this point, her exchanges with the President had been light, friendly, casual, almost playful. I got the sense that she realized, "OMG, I am on the stage ALONE with this man!" as she eased into her more professional character.

I know there's a huge Dr. Fauci Fan Club on here, and I say that in good humor, not to belittle. It was funny, one of the days last week, folks on the old thread were worried that Dr. Fauci had "disappeared" for a day or two from the briefings. Who was the first guest on Tucker Carlson's show that evening? None other than Dr. Fauci. So I'm sure he's around, and his diehard fans haven't seen the last of him. And it's OK if there's friction at times between President Trump and Dr. Fauci. Both have different roles, but one of the two was elected to run the country, and one wasn't.

The President (((may))) have figured out that he can keep his base happy (borders closed, thinking of opening the US for business) while using hints of reality and compassion to increase his support. He's showing signs of understanding that it is OK to not have all the answers and that we will know more in a week. He's moving closer to prime time and with no sports on TV has a platform that could mean BIG trouble for Biden/(obligatory Bernie?) who has been correctly silent during the crisis.

I think Biden has started "daily" conferences of his own as of the other day. I heard a few snippets from one of them, and there's probably a very good reason why the media hasn't given him more coverage. With all due respect to the guy … in his case, and in his current condition, less is better. FWIW Biden has to be having concerns about Governor Cuomo … if he's even aware of him??

Having learned a lesson yesterday about the current volatility of the markets, I won't say anything here this time, other than to say the reaction in anticipation of a bipartisan deal is encouraging, but literally could change in the blink of an eye … ;) :)
 
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When Darwin meets God. An experiment.
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Just wanted to expand on a couple of points from our media reporter Darius :) on yesterday's do ...
I considered prefacing my report with: "Sorry to keep you waiting, Chuck, here you go..."

On the China thing … I don't think that's "changing his tune" (although I'm happy you're happy) … is it really that hard to make a differentiation between native Chinese and (especially) their totalitarian regime in charge - whose figures I wouldn't buy for even a second - and Asian-Americans? I don't remember hiding in a corner, cowering in fear when I was a kid, and the media was saying all kinds of nasty things about both sides of "The Troubles" (i.e. Catholics in the ROI, and Protestants in Northern Ireland), being "offended". It's an easy differentiation when your primary identification is as an AMERICAN. Not Irish, not Chinese ... AMERICAN.
As a segment of our population has demonstrated time and again, YES.

I think Biden has started "daily" conferences of his own as of the other day. I heard a few snippets from one of them, and there's probably a very good reason why the media hasn't given him more coverage. With all due respect to the guy … in his case, and in his current condition, less is better. FWIW Biden has to be having concerns about Governor Cuomo … if he's even aware of him??
You don't say?/My gut tells me things don't end well for Joe/Please elaborate?

Having learned a lesson yesterday about the current volatility of the markets, I won't say anything here this time, other than to say the reaction in anticipation of a bipartisan deal is encouraging, but literally could change in the blink of an eye … ;) :)
Yea for a day. So far anyway.
 
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When Darwin meets God. An experiment.

Good for them. A chance to lead by example. Agree or disagree, something to be admired. :)

I considered prefacing my report with: "Sorry to keep you waiting, Chuck, here you go..."

:) I enjoy our give-and-take, Darius. We're providing a bipartisan service to the rest of the board.

As a segment of our population has demonstrated time and again, YES.

It's funny, I don't see Chinese Americans or Japanese Americans ******ing about being slandered (although some of them seem to be discriminated against in Ivy admissions), they seem on the whole to have assimilated remarkably well in this country, no?

Or am I missing the point (and I concede that may be the case)? :confused:
 
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Good for them. A chance to lead by example. Agree or disagree, something to be admired. :)

I guess, in the same way that I admire the leadership of the kid on meth on the balcony who thinks he can fly, past precedent not being an issue.



He, too, will get halfway down and remark about how overblown the concerns and predictions were.
 
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I guess, in the same way that I admire the leadership of the kid on meth on the balcony who thinks he can fly, past precedent not being an issue.

He, too, will get halfway down and remark about how overblown the concerns and predictions were.
We'll learn from this. One way or another.

I wonder how many of the students were on a FL beach last week?
 
Stanford Nobel Laureate researcher weighs in... note his predictions on shorter duration as well as his comments on the panic... One man's view, but a pretty smart man at that.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/coron...e-earlier-than-predicted-nobel-laureate-says/

Read this article as well but in the LA Times. He maintains that the numbers are "messy" and "noise" bit maintains social distancing and testing are key to turning this around. Agree with both. Now is not the time to go out with your drinking buddies...(his words) love that! Be well...
 
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I guess, in the same way that I admire the leadership of the kid on meth on the balcony who thinks he can fly, past precedent not being an issue.



He, too, will get halfway down and remark about how overblown the concerns and predictions were.

And who cares if anyone was walking below him on the ground.
 
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Stanford Nobel Laureate researcher weighs in... note his predictions on shorter duration as well as his comments on the panic... One man's view, but a pretty smart man at that.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/coron...e-earlier-than-predicted-nobel-laureate-says/

Interesting … but in fairness, I'll say what I've said before, I don't believe a thing I'm hearing from China in terms of reporting decreased activity. Maybe it has, maybe it hasn't, but let's just say - being charitable - they haven't been the greatest historians, and (less charitably) their data is not exactly being aggregated or verified independently. Unless you consider the WHO to be a reliable reporter of these things, as opposed to being in Xi's back pocket …

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/asia/coronavirus-who-china-intl-hnk/index.html

There are many far more critical articles on the WHO's relationship with China - easy to find - but I've posted this one, since the source isn't one I'm used to frequenting, and the report predates the full emergence of the situation in the US by almost a full month.

So I'll take what he gives me on the non-China stuff, and that's interesting. But if the "kill shot" on his conclusion is based on data supposedly aggregated from China … well, I'll wait for more data.
 
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Do let us know how his town hall goes today on Fox...
It was smooth. A controlled environment with commercial breaks. "China", "Sleepy Joe", re-open the country. Having said that it was pretty good, nothing off the rails. One can envision the Town Hall becoming Rally 2.0.
 
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Interesting … but in fairness, I'll say what I've said before, I don't believe a thing I'm hearing from China in terms of reporting decreased activity. Maybe it has, maybe it hasn't, but let's just say - being charitable - they haven't been the greatest historians, and (less charitably) their data is not exactly being aggregated or verified independently. Unless you consider the WHO to be a reliable reporter of these things, as opposed to being in Xi's back pocket …

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/asia/coronavirus-who-china-intl-hnk/index.html

There are many far more critical articles on the WHO's relationship with China - easy to find - but I've posted this one, since the source isn't one I'm used to frequenting, and the report predates the full emergence of the situation in the US by almost a full month.

So I'll take what he gives me on the non-China stuff, and that's interesting. But if the "kill shot" on his conclusion is based on data supposedly aggregated from China … well, I'll wait for more data.

Totally agree. But I'll go further and say I don't trust ANYTHING the Chinese gov't is reporting on their outbreak...past, present or future. Number of cases, number of deaths, number of new cases... I don't trust any of it. Given their multiple opportunities to tell the world exactly what they were up against, they chose to run and hide the info...leading to the global mess we're in. My two cents.
 
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Stanford Nobel Laureate researcher weighs in... note his predictions on shorter duration as well as his comments on the panic... One man's view, but a pretty smart man at that.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/coron...e-earlier-than-predicted-nobel-laureate-says/

He has also said that social distancing mandates are critical. Levitt certainly isn't saying this is no big deal.

Assuming China is reporting accurate numbers, it's going to take us longer to get through it than China because they implemented a complete lockdown of the Wuhan area.
 
It was smooth. A controlled environment with commercial breaks. "China", "Sleepy Joe", re-open the country. Having said that it was pretty good, nothing off the rails. One can envision the Town Hall becoming Rally 2.0.

Kept up with it on Twitter. Disappointed to hear criticism of Andrew Cuomo tho. Whatever. April 12 eh? Also his comparison to this with car accidents and the seasonal flu. Car accident deaths do not blow up a hospital system like this will. Neither does the flu. Speaking of the flu..its not contagious like this is.

Finally..to your point of being smooth? Of course it was without those pesky reporters around.😁 Anyway thanks for your report.
 
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He has also said that social distancing mandates are critical. Levitt certainly isn't saying this is no big deal.

Assuming China is reporting accurate numbers, it's going to take us longer to get through it than China because they implemented a complete lockdown of the Wuhan area.

Good point..the US hasn't even come close to what was done in China..esp around testing and lock down as you mention. Today the President gave April 12 as a possible "re open" date. Lots will be k own about how things are going in this country by then...
 
Good point..the US hasn't even come close to what was done in China..esp around testing and lock down as you mention. Today the President gave April 12 as a possible "re open" date. Lots will be k own about how things are going in this country by then...

The key is to bend the curve Ref. We should be able to that without shutting down the whole country for two or three months. That would destroy the country. It may be selective opening up depending different factors. The stimulus package would help if we are to have any recovery at all.
 
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Good point..the US hasn't even come close to what was done in China..esp around testing and lock down as you mention. Today the President gave April 12 as a possible "re open" date. Lots will be k own about how things are going in this country by then...
I missed that as I listened from another room while working. At least April 12 is beyond the 15 days to stop the spread timeline.
 
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Coronavirus: US man dies after taking drug he thought stopped virus:
https://www.bbc.com/news/52012242

... had used chloroquine previously as a treatment for their koi fish and still had some remaining in their home. This additive is formulated differently than the drug used to treat malaria...

...Nigerian health officials also issued a warning regarding the drug's misuse after hospitals in Lagos, the nation's capital, began reporting patients suspected of chloroquine poisoning...

...At least three people are believed to be hospitalised and reports have spread of high demand of chloroquine leading to pharmacy shortages...
 
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