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Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
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Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
You are missing my point. Because of this massive fail on PPE/tests/etc, deaths will happen. If it happened to someone in my family, and there was no way to help them, I'd accept it, because I'd have no other choice. Again, it SUCKS. I DO NOT LIKE THAT ONE BIT.
It's one thing to accept, it's a whole different thing to approve.
You are missing my point. Because of this massive fail on PPE/tests/etc, deaths will happen. If it happened to someone in my family, and there was no way to help them, I'd accept it, because I'd have no other choice. Again, it SUCKS. I DO NOT LIKE THAT ONE BIT.
It's one thing to accept, it's a whole different thing to approve.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
So wait...now we DO need vents? Huh...
So wait...now we DO need vents? Huh...
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
Welcome to a month ago you waste of carbon.
Welcome to a month ago you waste of carbon.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
I hope a lot of campaigns ads come out showing the scenes in NYC and emphasizing how many republicans and their brain dead followers were still downplaying it
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's obvious now: All that love and solidarity with NYC after 9/11 by people across the political spectrum was bull****. It was just bc the city was attacked by foreign terrorists. This time, people are dying bc of foot dragging by the president & his cult couldn't care less</p>— Tim Wise (@timjacobwise) <a href="https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/1243568465312710656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I hope a lot of campaigns ads come out showing the scenes in NYC and emphasizing how many republicans and their brain dead followers were still downplaying it
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's obvious now: All that love and solidarity with NYC after 9/11 by people across the political spectrum was bull****. It was just bc the city was attacked by foreign terrorists. This time, people are dying bc of foot dragging by the president & his cult couldn't care less</p>— Tim Wise (@timjacobwise) <a href="https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/1243568465312710656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Best part, GM doesn't own the Lordstown plant, so even if they wanted to reopen it, they couldn't.
And... hearing on CNBC that Trump has ZERO to do with any deal with automakers making ventilators. In reality, the manufacturer of the ventilator is striking the deal themselves with GM to use GM workforce/plants for production.
No guarantee that the UAW will accept.
French Rage
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Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
The best part is, they already sold that plant last year, and he tweeted about it then: https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1243564012564029441
Also: that's not GM Twitter handle.
The best part is, they already sold that plant last year, and he tweeted about it then: https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1243564012564029441
Also: that's not GM Twitter handle.
Handyman
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Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
Even crazier dx posted this last night:
So now he is calling for GM to do what he told them NOT to do yesterday.
Even crazier dx posted this last night:
So now he is calling for GM to do what he told them NOT to do yesterday.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
Ventec and GM have reached an agreement between themselves to use GM's Kokomo Indiana engine plant. UAW employees are *volunteering* their time to build these. Production looks to start shipping in a few weeks, once they get the workers up to speed.
This is UNRELATED to any deal that Ventec may have with the US Government. There is ZERO input in this from the Trump administration.
Ventec and GM have reached an agreement between themselves to use GM's Kokomo Indiana engine plant. UAW employees are *volunteering* their time to build these. Production looks to start shipping in a few weeks, once they get the workers up to speed.
This is UNRELATED to any deal that Ventec may have with the US Government. There is ZERO input in this from the Trump administration.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Sounds like GM and Ventec cut out Trump and negotiated their own deal.
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
You would accept it- ok then do your part and make sure you and your family don't use resources that others are not willing to accept for their family..
BTW, accepting that also accepts that there's nothing else we can do- which is giving up. Which is both wrong an immoral, seeing that we can deal with this better and that lives can be saved. Why are you so quick to ignore the path that S Korea has show us? To pretend that its not going to help going forward is pretty weak.
We sent a man to the moon, costing us way more money than doing this right. Why can't we do that again?
You would accept it- ok then do your part and make sure you and your family don't use resources that others are not willing to accept for their family..
BTW, accepting that also accepts that there's nothing else we can do- which is giving up. Which is both wrong an immoral, seeing that we can deal with this better and that lives can be saved. Why are you so quick to ignore the path that S Korea has show us? To pretend that its not going to help going forward is pretty weak.
We sent a man to the moon, costing us way more money than doing this right. Why can't we do that again?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
Simple answer is because of profit motive. Going to the moon was a net loss. We don't do net losses anymore unless they're at the whims of billionaire's.
Simple answer is because of profit motive. Going to the moon was a net loss. We don't do net losses anymore unless they're at the whims of billionaire's.
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It does NOT mean giving up. We can prevent more deaths, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people will still die. These are separate things.
It does NOT mean giving up. We can prevent more deaths, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people will still die. These are separate things.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
And that's why knuck Texas counties are declaring all their business essential and ordering everyone back to work. Literally, essential to their richest citizen's portfolios, because that is who government exists to serve.
We have never evolved very far from the Lord conscripting his serfs to give their lives for his land holdings. Force majeur.
And that's why knuck Texas counties are declaring all their business essential and ordering everyone back to work. Literally, essential to their richest citizen's portfolios, because that is who government exists to serve.
We have never evolved very far from the Lord conscripting his serfs to give their lives for his land holdings. Force majeur.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
It's worth noting that above that black line is a very scary place you don't want to be. Death tolls skyrocket. It's no longer 1-3%, it's 10x that number.
It's worth noting that above that black line is a very scary place you don't want to be. Death tolls skyrocket. It's no longer 1-3%, it's 10x that number.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
WORRIED?!?!! Atlanta is out of beds. Detroit is prepping blanket DNR letters. NYC has hundreds dying every day. And you're "worried"? **** YOU Gottlieb.
WORRIED?!?!! Atlanta is out of beds. Detroit is prepping blanket DNR letters. NYC has hundreds dying every day. And you're "worried"? **** YOU Gottlieb.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
I figured this was the case. People are independently realizing we don't have a federal government right now thanks to the Republicans. THere is none. Nothing. In fact, we'd have fewer deaths if the feds just didn't exist at this point.
Now the companies are realizing 3% of their workforce dying is probably a bad thing and they're trying to A) Keep their employees alive B) Keep their companies alive C) Sopping up as much good press as possible, even if it's shameless.
I figured this was the case. People are independently realizing we don't have a federal government right now thanks to the Republicans. THere is none. Nothing. In fact, we'd have fewer deaths if the feds just didn't exist at this point.
Now the companies are realizing 3% of their workforce dying is probably a bad thing and they're trying to A) Keep their employees alive B) Keep their companies alive C) Sopping up as much good press as possible, even if it's shameless.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
A month ago many of my members were complaining that this was a liberal media hoax designed to hurt their dear leader. This week, many have complained that their employer is forcing them to work because the government has deemed their employer an essential industry. It never ceases to amaze me how incredibly hypocritical the right wingers really are. Combined with their alarming stupidity, hatred of anything that presents itself in their mind as "intellectual" and some healthy bigotry thrown in for good measure it is no wonder I have so little hope for the future. I need my old job back. At least those union members got what our union was trying to do and I actually felt like I made a difference. Here, I am just collecting a paycheck, which makes ME a hypocrite.
A month ago many of my members were complaining that this was a liberal media hoax designed to hurt their dear leader. This week, many have complained that their employer is forcing them to work because the government has deemed their employer an essential industry. It never ceases to amaze me how incredibly hypocritical the right wingers really are. Combined with their alarming stupidity, hatred of anything that presents itself in their mind as "intellectual" and some healthy bigotry thrown in for good measure it is no wonder I have so little hope for the future. I need my old job back. At least those union members got what our union was trying to do and I actually felt like I made a difference. Here, I am just collecting a paycheck, which makes ME a hypocrite.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Covfefe-19: We're all getting $5/hour more in hazard pay!
This does not follow. The mental and moral unfitness of righties just points to a future with fewer and fewer of them. We are shocked by how many braindead hayseeds are out there but that number has been dropping precipitously through human history. 50% of the American population is now intellectually functional. In 1900 that was perhaps 10%. In 1800 it was perhaps 2%.
The humans are winning; the apes are literally dying off. Sure, there are still way, way too many of them, and the lack of wars doesn't help, but their own violence and cerebral incapacity dooms them longterm. Don't give up now when we've nearly won. We have perhaps another century until the remainder will be in zoos as a proto-human link from animals to mankind.
This does not follow. The mental and moral unfitness of righties just points to a future with fewer and fewer of them. We are shocked by how many braindead hayseeds are out there but that number has been dropping precipitously through human history. 50% of the American population is now intellectually functional. In 1900 that was perhaps 10%. In 1800 it was perhaps 2%.
The humans are winning; the apes are literally dying off. Sure, there are still way, way too many of them, and the lack of wars doesn't help, but their own violence and cerebral incapacity dooms them longterm. Don't give up now when we've nearly won. We have perhaps another century until the remainder will be in zoos as a proto-human link from animals to mankind.
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I don’t know if there’s a formal fallacy for this, but it should be called “fallacy of the equality of large numbers.” “Well, the best we can do is 100k deaths, and that’s already so horrible to think about that it doesn’t seem like a million deaths would really be that much worse, so why bother taking the painful steps needed to keep it to 100k?”
It’s worse. Much, much worse. Just because our human pea brains are not able to contemplate large numbers effectively does not change that reality. Reality does not give two hoots about your perception.
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