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Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

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Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

Absolute gaslighting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1255352014042738688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

ericredaxe said:
Easy to say until nobody can buy food. I think it is safe to assume that the plan will not include sick and dead people working in food processing. Letting the food supply chain fall apart is not an option.
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Here's a suggestion- go local. They may not be capable of keeping up with the losses, but they are certainly there.

There are many reasons the food supply chain is so tenuous, but a lot of that is due to greed. Greed is what prevented the moron in the white house acting as soon as he could have, greed is what prevented the meat suppliers to actually provide a safe workplace to their employees, greed is why meat suppliers are constantly on the edge of bankruptcy, etc.

Thanks to a lot of greed, we will all suffer. And forcing people to work can't help if there is nobody to do the work.

There are some greedy people who are real people- in my company, all of the top execs are taking a huge pay cut, and the director is taking nothing. We are also making supplies for the healthcare industry.

But there are a lot of companies out there who somehow think that they should not take a hit due to this virus. Or that they should not protect their workers even when they are showing a boom to their work (Bezos, I'm looking at you). How many more weeks until this whole "you are lucky to have a job, and it's an honor to work for me" BS is going to stop?
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Absolute gaslighting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1255352014042738688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I don’t think many are falling for it. He’s already wasted his “good” 4.3 disapproval rating 538 had him at three weeks ago, which was the best of his presidency. Back to -10 to start May.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

Kepler said:
It was called Life After People.

<img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lifeafterpeople/images/8/83/Life-after-people-washington-monument.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130822022838">

I remember they said "95% of pets will perish in the first month." Most cities would burn on the first day as even the slightest gas fire or other explosion would have virtually limitless fuel and nothing to stop it

They also said that cats living on the higher floors of skyscrapers might evolve webbing like flying squirrels. Dr. Mrs. and I love this idea.

IIRC nearly all evidence of human existence would be obliterated within the first 5 thousand years. Almost nothing would be left except for a few structures and plastic. The Pyramids ironically might last the longest. The last vestige that we were ever here would be the two Voyagers which will theoretically exist until the SMBHs at the centers of the Milky Way and Andromeda converge in 4B years and kind of destroy everything.

As for nature recapturing an urban landscape, we don't have to wait.
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And yet, the Mets would be no worse.
 
alfablue said:
Here's a suggestion- go local. They may not be capable of keeping up with the losses, but they are certainly there.

There are many reasons the food supply chain is so tenuous, but a lot of that is due to greed. Greed is what prevented the moron in the white house acting as soon as he could have, greed is what prevented the meat suppliers to actually provide a safe workplace to their employees, greed is why meat suppliers are constantly on the edge of bankruptcy, etc.

Thanks to a lot of greed, we will all suffer. And forcing people to work can't help if there is nobody to do the work.

There are some greedy people who are real people- in my company, all of the top execs are taking a huge pay cut, and the director is taking nothing. We are also making supplies for the healthcare industry.

But there are a lot of companies out there who somehow think that they should not take a hit due to this virus. Or that they should not protect their workers even when they are showing a boom to their work (Bezos, I'm looking at you). How many more weeks until this whole "you are lucky to have a job, and it's an honor to work for me" BS is going to stop?
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Right... We source a decent percentage of our meats and produce from a local butcher and farm stand. Those local places won’t be able to keep up with the demand.

Not saying the food supply chain doesn’t need long term fixes, but those fixes won’t be resolved in this current crisis. And let’s be real. Forcing sick people to work isn’t going to be part of the short term plan either. (Infected people unknowingly at work because of insufficient testing / poor planning etc is a different t story).

There will be hiccups. There will be temporary shut downs for sanitizing / outbreaks / infections etc, but food plants have to find a way to continue producing. To say otherwise is ludicrous.

There might not be a single thing that would create more havoc in the country than masses of people not being able to source food.
 
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He'll get more and more ridiculous as the year wears on and his numbers continue to flounder. He's barely even begun pushing conspiracies about the Deep State trying to fix or steal the election.

My uncle went out this winter and got his small wee-wee permit, so he's already gearing up for some 2nd Amendment remedying. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

When I posted my fatality links, I assumed I was posting this on a COLLEGE Hockey website centered around a game played by the population in the 18-23 age range. This is THEIR game, we are just hockey fans, alums or jock sniffers looking in from the outside. When I posted the links, the TOTAL fatality numbers from 3 hard hit areas were;

TOTAL FATALITIES: 39,602
Ages 0-19 = 7
0-49 = 392
50+ = 39,203

What I see is that the vast majority of respondents in this thread say that a bunch of young, healthy, statistically 0 risk student/athletes shouldn’t be allowed to attend school and play THEIR game in front of zero fans because why? Their grandparents and older jock sniffers cant come see them play? Or if the grandparents and OJS's didn’t go to the game, then the players would race home to tell them about the game and thus kill 100% of the people they come in contact with?

Time to wake up. YOU cant lock up and mortgage the present and future hoping that you can squeeze every last ounce out of the past. The sun is shining, time to go out in the world, get to my work and be concerned with the future.

Flame away.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

US is about 4% of the World's population and has about 25% of the total Covid deaths. GOOD ****ING JOB AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
alfablue said:
How many more weeks until this whole "you are lucky to have a job, and it's an honor to work for me" BS is going to stop?
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It won't. For the next however many years, the "jawbs kreatuhs" will be holding it over anyone trying to get better wages or working conditions, just as they have for the last 40.

"Just be thankful you even have a job"
 
Whalers said:
When I posted my fatality links, I assumed I was posting this on a COLLEGE Hockey website centered around a game played by the population in the 18-23 age range. This is THEIR game, we are just hockey fans, alums or jock sniffers looking in from the outside. When I posted the links, the TOTAL fatality numbers from 3 hard hit areas were;

TOTAL FATALITIES: 39,602
Ages 0-19 = 7
0-49 = 392
50+ = 39,203

What I see is that the vast majority of respondents in this thread say that a bunch of young, healthy, statistically 0 risk student/athletes shouldn’t be allowed to attend school and play THEIR game in front of zero fans because why? Their grandparents and older jock sniffers cant come see them play? Or if the grandparents and OJS's didn’t go to the game, then the players would race home to tell them about the game and thus kill 100% of the people they come in contact with?

Time to wake up. YOU cant lock up and mortgage the present and future hoping that you can squeeze every last ounce out of the past. The sun is shining, time to go out in the world, get to my work and be concerned with the future.

Flame away.
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Hey troll boy, if you wanted to talk about young people playing sports, maybe you should have mentioned that in your original post.

But you didn't do that. You just wanted to quote some selective stats to attempt to paint this pandemic as not as bad as it is said to be.

And don't flame away. Just **** off.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

Kepler said:
It was called Life After People.

<img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lifeafterpeople/images/8/83/Life-after-people-washington-monument.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130822022838">

I remember they said "95% of pets will perish in the first month." Most cities would burn on the first day as even the slightest gas fire or other explosion would have virtually limitless fuel and nothing to stop it

They also said that cats living on the higher floors of skyscrapers might evolve webbing like flying squirrels. Dr. Mrs. and I love this idea.

IIRC nearly all evidence of human existence would be obliterated within the first 5 thousand years. Almost nothing would be left except for a few structures and plastic. The Pyramids ironically might last the longest. The last vestige that we were ever here would be the two Voyagers which will theoretically exist until the SMBHs at the centers of the Milky Way and Andromeda converge in 4B years and kind of destroy everything.

As for nature recapturing an urban landscape, we don't have to wait.
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Those were some of the most depressing shows I have ever watched. I was affected for weeks after watching them, how little we matter.

I think the Hoover dam and Mount Rushmore go 10k-20k years.
 
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My favorite thing about that line of thinking (not necessarily the show) is that the footprints on the moon will outlast most everything else we've ever done.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

ericredaxe said:
Easy to say until nobody can buy food. I think it is safe to assume that the plan will not include sick and dead people working in food processing. Letting the food supply chain fall apart is not an option.
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I don't think the executive order has anything to do with the food supply, although I'll admit I haven't read the text of the order. But here is why I have that opinion.

First, it deals only with meat facilities, apparently. That's only a part, and maybe a small part of the food supply in this country. Other areas of the food supply are also having problems. Dairy operators are dumping milk because they can't transport it or get it processed. There are farmers in Idaho giving away piles of potatoes that look like the pyramids, because they can't get them shipped and processed. Yet it's the Tysons and Smithfields of the world that the Order saves, and only them.

Meat processing plants are heavily unionized. The unions are doing a ton behind the scenes on behalf of employees. For instance, in Minnesota they have been quietly lobbying Walz to have the employees classified as "first responders." They say that'll make it easier for them to get masks. But the real reason is that a "first responder" classification means that if they develop Covid, it's presumed to be work related for workers comp purposes. Walz has thus far declined.

So yesterday (or maybe the day before) a big ad appears in the Times or Wall Street Journal and gets lots of airplay. The head of Tyson says the food supply chain is going down.

The purpose for that is to generate fear, in preparation for what comes next, which is the Executive Order. Thus far the only people I've heard object to the executive order are the unions, because they know what's going on.

My guess is the executive order is going to give the plants some sort of pass on possible OSHA claims that might arise from workers working in an environment where there are contagious diseases possibly present, and maybe even some work comp benefits in the order.

I notice that in conjunction with Trump's order, the Iowa governor also apparently implemented an order that people refusing to work due to Covid-19 fears are considered a "voluntary quit" and ineligible for unemployment. That'll also make it easier for Tyson's plants to open back up in Iowa.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

Anyone considered essential should be eligible for workman’s comp if they catch it on the job. Or even if it could be reasonably surmised that’s where they caught it.

The general duty clause should absolutely apply here.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

dxmnkd316 said:
Dead people sure. But if you don’t think sick people will be forced to work under duress, you’re insane.

Otherwise, you’re right. Securing the food supply is a national priority.
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Smithfield et al shutdown their plants due to COVID-19 running through their plant. While they’ll comply with the order, they’ll just as quickly tell the sick people to stay home. Regardless of whether this virus can be transmitted through food, management will act with the idea that they’re avoiding lawsuits and creating public goodwill. The plant managers and owners have made their desires known, they’d rather be closed right now. Continued operation is risky for them, and likely sacrifice short-term profit for long-term viability.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine being this incapable of shutting tf up. <a href="https://t.co/oimxKRq0Ko">pic.twitter.com/oimxKRq0Ko</a></p>— Hank Green (@hankgreen) <a href="https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1255499267403284481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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