Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

[state of hockey]

Was hoping to go this year, maybe even as an MN resident. Not gonna happen now.

I absolutely love the fair. Hard to explain why, because I usually hate crowds and lines. Something about the fair gets me over that. I always have a blast. That being said, I'm not someone who will be complaining about the decision to shut it down. I'll complain that I won't be able to go this year, sure, but I'm not going to place blame on Walz for it. Even though I love it, I'd rather live without it than die from it.

 

[Drew S.]

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My company told us today to not expect coming back to the office when the stay at home order expires. Might be mid-June or even July when we go back.

I talked to our risk guy this week and he said we probably would start to re-open sometime in June but it isn't going to be anywhere close to normal. Only a certain number of people at a time and I believe everyone will have to wear masks. In my case I feel like the only real reason I would ever truly need to go into the office is for meetings and obviously those aren't happening for a long time. I think its at least a year before offices are anywhere close to be where they were before this started.

 

[geezer]

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My theory is that Minnesotans are trained in the crib to believe the state fair and High School Hockey are the highest forms of culture. I never was able to “get it” as an adult, but like clockwork every year my wife starts talking about going to the fair. For myself, I’d much rather go solo hiking. In Death Valley. Without water.

 

[JF_Gophers]

For myself, I’d much rather go solo hiking. In Death Valley. Without water.

I think we all want that for you. kidding!

 

[dxmnkd316]

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It isnt that simple. If you have never worked at the Fair trust me there are 12 billion moving parts and enough graft and shadiness to make the Mafia blush. If Walz cancelled it outright in April the fallout would be bad. (it would be a political disaster for him) He can wait 3 weeks and save a lot of face and not cause any further problems.

Not to mention more than just the Orcs and Stupids would riot...The Fair is the one thing everyone just cant live without. Thank God I got over that 15 years ago I can barely stand it anymore.

The Fair will be cancelled, of that there is no denying anymore. My guess is the announcement will come after Memorial Day. Since Minnesota's numbers arent subsiding (and will go up more thanks to more testing and Wisconsin being stupid) there is no way SIP ends on the 4th so the dominoes are already falling. He will give the Fair workers enough time to plan but there is a lot of smaller businesses that pay a lot of money to be able to make bank for 2 weeks so cancelling now would be a bad look. Hard to say "We want to protect small business" and then cancel a lot of small business 4 months ahead of time.

(note: I would have zero issue with cancelling it and will applaud when he doesnt need to do it this week or next nothing will change if he waits a month and he wont take as big of a PR hit)

Yeah, I get it. That’s my point. The Germans cancelled Oktoberfest. Which is several weeks later (and granted, an order of magnitude larger).

This is an easy call. Tell whoever thinks the virus is a hoax to come to the fair, tell everyone else to stay away. And then keep track of who goes to isolate them from everyone else until enough get sick and die. The Fair will be over for a week by the time anyone figures out that they got sick from it. Darwin.

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My theory is that Minnesotans are trained in the crib to believe the state fair and High School Hockey are the highest forms of culture. I never was able to “get it” as an adult, but like clockwork every year my wife starts talking about going to the fair. For myself, I’d much rather go solo hiking. In Death Valley. Without water.

I don’t think anyone has ever used the words “high culture” with the fair or tournament.

The fair is just a good time. Like SOH, I should by all rights HAAAATE the fair. I love it. Every year is fun.

 

[state of hockey]

My theory is that Minnesotans are trained in the crib to believe the state fair and High School Hockey are the highest forms of culture. I never was able to “get it” as an adult, but like clockwork every year my wife starts talking about going to the fair. For myself, I’d much rather go solo hiking. In Death Valley. Without water.

I've lost track of the number of your "Minnesota theories" that are dead wrong.

 

[SJHovey]

Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

My theory is that Minnesotans are trained in the crib to believe the state fair and High School Hockey are the highest forms of culture. I never was able to “get it” as an adult, but like clockwork every year my wife starts talking about going to the fair. For myself, I’d much rather go solo hiking. In Death Valley. Without water.

The state fair and high school hockey tournament have nothing to do with....the state fair and high school hockey. It's the social aspect of it. It's the shared experience. It's meeting the same friends or the same family members at the same location and sharing common experiences.

It's exactly the same as people mourning over the loss of the WCHA Final Five. The tournament was still put on by the WCHA. All of the teams that could have played in the old WCHA Final Five still had a chance to play tournament hockey at that time. But the shared experience with the same friends and family members in the same locations was lost.

 

[BassAle]

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I talked to our risk guy this week and he said we probably would start to re-open sometime in June but it isn't going to be anywhere close to normal. Only a certain number of people at a time and I believe everyone will have to wear masks. In my case I feel like the only real reason I would ever truly need to go into the office is for meetings and obviously those aren't happening for a long time. I think its at least a year before offices are anywhere close to be where they were before this started.

My company is still open (research, and we are the primary supplier of SARS-CoV-2 susceptible mice), but they've reduced on-side research staff by ~70%. Those that do need to go on site to do lab work or care for animals are doing so in shifts. My department is 100% work from home at least until June.

We have the capability to run Covid-19 tests in-house, and those are now available to 'essential employees' (people that need to go on site at least once per week) and capacity will be ramped up (we are also running tests for several hospitals in Maine and Connecticut). They are also sourcing thermometers to distribute to all essential employees, who will have to monitor their temperature daily. Mask are required on-site except for when you are in your own private office. Our CEO used to be director of the Genome Institute of Singapore and he lead the Singapore scientific response to SARS. He's saying people will have to be tested at least every 14 days if we want to start reopening things this summer and we'll need a massive contact tracing effort.

When we do start bringing the remote workers back on site, I'm positive it will be in a phased approach. Possibly with reconfigured work spaces to put more space between work areas. I won't be surprised if I'm still primarily work from home all summer and into the fall.

 

[burd]

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I've lost track of the number of your "Minnesota theories" that are dead wrong.

Does geezer move too fast for you?

edit: OK

 

[burd]

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The state fair and high school hockey tournament have nothing to do with....the state fair and high school hockey. It's the social aspect of it.

Is that a dis of deep fried snicker bars?

 

[Kepler]

Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

I talked to our risk guy this week and he said we probably would start to re-open sometime in June but it isn't going to be anywhere close to normal. Only a certain number of people at a time and I believe everyone will have to wear masks. In my case I feel like the only real reason I would ever truly need to go into the office is for meetings and obviously those aren't happening for a long time. I think its at least a year before offices are anywhere close to be where they were before this started.

This should be the case where I work, but I'm afraid the political and social idiocy of the local personnel in particular and the industry in general will go along with Dump to the suicidal applause of the worker bees.

It is always inconvenient to work in a rock stupid red company, but right now it is literally dangerous.

 

[Kepler]

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The state fair and high school hockey tournament have nothing to do with....the state fair and high school hockey. It's the social aspect of it. It's the shared experience. It's meeting the same friends or the same family members at the same location and sharing common experiences.

I thought it was that guy's hair videos.

 

[Drew S.]

Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

My company is still open (research, and we are the primary supplier of SARS-CoV-2 susceptible mice), but they've reduced on-side research staff by ~70%. Those that do need to go on site to do lab work or care for animals are doing so in shifts. My department is 100% work from home at least until June.

We have the capability to run Covid-19 tests in-house, and those are now available to 'essential employees' (people that need to go on site at least once per week) and capacity will be ramped up (we are also running tests for several hospitals in Maine and Connecticut). They are also sourcing thermometers to distribute to all essential employees, who will have to monitor their temperature daily. Mask are required on-site except for when you are in your own private office. Our CEO used to be director of the Genome Institute of Singapore and he lead the Singapore scientific response to SARS. He's saying people will have to be tested at least every 14 days if we want to start reopening things this summer and we'll need a massive contact tracing effort.

When we do start bringing the remote workers back on site, I'm positive it will be in a phased approach. Possibly with reconfigured work spaces to put more space between work areas. I won't be surprised if I'm still primarily work from home all summer and into the fall.

I think the problem we're going to run into is we'll likely have to start from scratch sometime in October or November. There might be a month or two in late summer/early fall where it is somewhat safe to go back but I doubt it is for very long.

I don't want this to sound pessimistic or look too far ahead, but I think we should be steeling ourselves for a tough six months or so around next winter. As tough as the last couple of months have been that could be considerably worse. Hopefully we have a better handle on things and there are some therapies available which we feel reasonably confident in, not sure that will happen or not though.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

I think the problem we're going to run into is we'll likely have to start from scratch sometime in October or November. There might be a month or two in late summer/early fall where it is somewhat safe to go back but I doubt it is for very long.

I don't want this to sound pessimistic or look too far ahead, but I think we should be steeling ourselves for a tough six months or so around next winter. As tough as the last couple of months have been that could be considerably worse. Hopefully we have a better handle on things and there are some therapies available which we feel reasonably confident in, not sure that will happen or not though.

This is one of the most rational and thought out posts in this entire thread.


Are you feeling ok?

 

[Slap Shot]

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I don't want to wish ill will toward anyone but it's not easy.

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I dind't realize Chuck had a job in government:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's CDC Director Redfield trying to make a painstaking distinction between "worse" and "complicated" in an effort to walk back comments he made on the record indicating that a second wave of coronavirus this fall could be really bad <a href="https://t.co/q9eClOqxkz">pic.twitter.com/q9eClOqxkz</a></p>— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) <a href="https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1253086440331894795?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[aparch]

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That's brilliant.

 

[alfablue]

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I don't want to wish ill will toward anyone but it's not easy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="cy" dir="ltr">Gawddammit! <a href="https://t.co/ilQwrkYlol">pic.twitter.com/ilQwrkYlol</a></p>— Shawn (@the_SKOL_train) <a href="https://twitter.com/the_SKOL_train/status/1253130180647927809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I dind't realize Chuck had a job in government:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's CDC Director Redfield trying to make a painstaking distinction between "worse" and "complicated" in an effort to walk back comments he made on the record indicating that a second wave of coronavirus this fall could be really bad <a href="https://t.co/q9eClOqxkz">pic.twitter.com/q9eClOqxkz</a></p>— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) <a href="https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1253086440331894795?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FWIW, there's no way in hell that's an Arizona beach.

Lest we forget, Arizona does not border a major body of water, which would be needed to have those kinds of waves. And the time's I've been on Lake Havasu, it very much does not look like that. That's Florida. And given that's a BS picture, I would harbor a bet that it's not even a recent picture.

While I have no sympathy for morons who do stupid things, lets not make up stuff like they do to attempt to make a point.

 

[geezer]

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I've lost track of the number of your "Minnesota theories" that are dead wrong.

It's been 20 years of captivating research. I hope to figure her out in the next 20, then replicate my research. My main hypothesis is that MN women are gorgeous, even though they sometimes partake in questionable pastimes.

FWIW, there's no way in hell that's an Arizona beach.

Isn't that the joke?

 

[Kepler]

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FWIW, there's no way in hell that's an Arizona beach.

Lest we forget, Arizona does not border a major body of water, which would be needed to have those kinds of waves. And the time's I've been on Lake Havasu, it very much does not look like that. That's Florida. And given that's a BS picture, I would harbor a bet that it's not even a recent picture.

While I have no sympathy for morons who do stupid things, lets not make up stuff like they do to attempt to make a point.

There is no way those waves are a lake. I grew up on an ocean. That is an ocean.

 

[state of hockey]

My main hypothesis is that MN women are gorgeous, even though they sometimes partake in questionable pastimes.

This I won't argue.