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Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

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Spartanforlife4 said:
There’s a fun paradox going on on the Michigan quarantine page.

1) The state should re-open because the virus isn’t as bad as it seems due to lack of testing. If there were more testing, the fatality rate would drop as all the mild and asymptomatic cases are added.

2) We should not test more because Whitmer is using positive case numbers to judge when to reopen, and mass testing will only result in a longer quarantine.

So, if you include the earlier China paradox, we get the following:

China lied about how dangerous it is, but it is not dangerous enough to quarantine. However, we cannot prove how not-dangerous it is, because doing so will lengthen the quarantine.
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That's some catch, that Catch-22.
 
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On, Wisconsin.

Despite health concerns and an executive order by the governor to postpone elections, Wisconsin Republicans refused to postpone races for state and local office in addition to the presidential primary. Insisting the election go on, Republicans in the state fought the order with the support of the U.S. Supreme Court resulting in a forced election on April 7. Of course, their actions didn’t end without dire consequences; health officials have linked at least seven cases of COVID-19 to state election activities, Milwaukee Health Commissioner Jeanette Kowalik said Monday.
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Handyman said:
Some update multiple times. Cali has quite a few times actually.

Usually everything is all set by 6pm central.
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Worldometers is an agglomerator. It takes several sources and tries to reconcile them to give the most up-to-date numbers. For instance, in the early weeks of this (like, a month ago, :rolleyes:) they were basically sourcing news stories. Then states finally started getting their **** together and Worldometers now uses those to balance their checkbook. But they also use other sources to keep it as "live" as possible.
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
NIH expert panel recommends against the use hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. Good call at this point IMO.

https://covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-options-under-investigation/
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It took them long enough. Looks like it caused a higher mortality rate. Ooops! Makes sense. There are cardiac effects to COVID and cardiac effects to the med. No wonder other countries stopped studies d/t bad outcomes. We used to be the cutting edge place. Now we are like the poor stepchildren. It is embarrassing
 
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leswp1 said:
It took them long enough. Looks like it caused a higher mortality rate. Ooops! Makes sense. There are cardiac effects to COVID and cardiac effects to the med. No wonder other countries stopped studies d/t bad outcomes. We used to be the cutting edge place. Now we are like the poor stepchildren. It is embarrassing
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I agree it took longer than I would like. However, this is moving fairly fast with regards to guidelines from an institution from the NIH. Most "guideline protocols" would lead to a conclusion of "insufficient evidence for or against" so I am happy they were able to pick a side.

My wife has been part of a sub-specialty guideline group that has been working on a niche set of guidelines. It has been two years and they are just getting to the point of publishing. When there is a lot of literature (think 1000s or 10,000s of papers) it can take a very long time to weed through the crap.
 
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Kepler said:
GA is apparently going full lardtard from what I've read. Assuming they count accurately (a big assumption) they're going to go big in a few weeks.
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Really. How can hair salons, nail salons, and massage places practice social distancing? That's literally people putting hands on other people.
 
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Boy, that US curve sure looks like its flattening.
 
Scarlet said:
This tweet explains why Georgia is reopening early. And this governor should be drawn and quartered for it.

https://twitter.com/aishacs/status/1252407674559332359?s=20

They're going to totally regret not voting in Stacy Abrams.
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To be fair, a lot of people were prevented from voting for her.

However these dummies voted kemp and his buddies into offices which allowed them to suppress the vote. For that, I’m out of sympathy for Georgians. Let them gasp for air while being thankful they went back to work
 
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Red states are going to keep healthy Americans from visiting any other country. No way any EU country lets us in while there are any cases still in the entire country. Thanks, jerks. We had a major trip planned for Sept, and I don't see that happening at all. This will be the first major anniversary (every 5 years including honeymoon) we are not in Europe, and I'm betting Georgia and Florida are going to be main causes why we are shunned by the world. Let alone Texas.

Given it was a month from the time I knew of two Covid cases in the UP until they finally tested for one- because of testing... I'm quite sure that there are many, many more cases and deaths in the middle of the country. Heck, my brother thought that it ravished northern Idaho in Feb, but no testing. Many people died and hospitals were overrun. But Idaho being a denier state, we will never actually know.

We will never know the real truth, thanks to the moron in the white home making this political. R's should burn in hell.
 
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WRT what we are doing- lots of movies, as suggested and supporting our local art theater. Keeps us sane by having dates quite often.
 
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Anyone who is still going to vote republican after this can burn in hell, too.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is INSANE that a national testing program is being framed as a concession to congressional Democrats.<br><br>It is even more insane that it might be true: yes, Trump should WANT testing. But his repeated view is he doesn't want anything that leads to higher confirmed case numbers.</p>— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) <a href="https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1252696963574755329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Ohio man dies of coronavirus after calling it a ‘political ploy’

John McDaniel said:
Does anybody have the guts to say this COVID-19 is a political ploy? Asking for a friend. Prove me wrong.
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It's hard for me to muster any sympathy at all for John McDaniel. I'll save it for the people who had to be exposed to him.

This was in Marion County Ohio, home to a prison in Ohio's department of Rehabilitation and Correction where 75% of the offenders and a third of the staff have also tested positive for the coronavirus. Some of the staffers are my former union members.
 
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