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Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

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WisconsinWildcard said:
I agree it took longer than I would like. However, this is moving fairly fast with regards to guidelines from an institution from the NIH. Most "guideline protocols" would lead to a conclusion of "insufficient evidence for or against" so I am happy they were able to pick a side.

My wife has been part of a sub-specialty guideline group that has been working on a niche set of guidelines. It has been two years and they are just getting to the point of publishing. When there is a lot of literature (think 1000s or 10,000s of papers) it can take a very long time to weed through the crap.
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My issue was more they rammed thru the use of the med to begin with. There was a lot of pressure for it to be used despite what was coming out in other countries saying the studies were flawed. It is just mind boggling to watch the level of denial humans are capable of. The other side of the world is showing us what works and what doesn't and we the feds) are still throwing a tantrum about being told we have it. When my uncle was being treated the Doc I talked to was saying they were pressuring to use med but she wasn't comfortable with how it was going down.

I agree things are moving very fast. It is like trying to build a foundation of quicksand. I would feel better if we had leadership that was leadership, that we didn't have the woman 'Dr' who is licking the prez but rather than speak plainly, that we didn't have the presentation of evidence or instruction immediately followed by conflicting advice, encouragement to go against it. I think I posted in here but I may not have- one of the Medical journal editors was being interviewed= they usually have something like 20-25 articles submitted a day. Now >200-250. Too many to vet completely. They are publishing with the label of not being peer reviewed yet.
 
leswp1 said:
My issue was more they rammed thru the use of the med to begin with. There was a lot of pressure for it to be used despite what was coming out in other countries saying the studies were flawed. It is just mind boggling to watch the level of denial humans are capable of. The other side of the world is showing us what works and what doesn't and we the feds) are still throwing a tantrum about being told we have it. When my uncle was being treated the Doc I talked to was saying they were pressuring to use med but she wasn't comfortable with how it was going down.

I agree things are moving very fast. It is like trying to build a foundation of quicksand. I would feel better if we had leadership that was leadership, that we didn't have the woman 'Dr' who is licking the prez but rather than speak plainly, that we didn't have the presentation of evidence or instruction immediately followed by conflicting advice, encouragement to go against it. I think I posted in here but I may not have- one of the Medical journal editors was being interviewed= they usually have something like 20-25 articles submitted a day. Now >200-250. Too many to vet completely. They are publishing with the label of not being peer reviewed yet.
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Remember when we were told we wanted people to die so orange man would look bad, all because we said the early studies weren’t sound and we needed more study?
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

leswp1 said:
My issue was more they rammed thru the use of the med to begin with.
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Right, because they spent a couple of months ignoring the problem, and once they did start to acknowledge it they felt they deserved there to be a magical solution falling right in their laps, when the actual solution would have been to do their jobs to begin with.
 
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Just over 600 employees of the Yale New Haven Health System in CT have tested positive for covid-19, while approx. 1,000 employees total are out of work for exposure or infection. Total workforce is 27,000. In my city near New Haven at least 1/3 of the career firefighting force of 125 is out of work for the same reasons. God bless all of our front line personnel in this fight. Please do everything you can to help them do their jobs by continuing to adhere to the guidelines of your state.
 
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aparch said:
This Twitter account is amazing...

https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Context: <a href="https://t.co/TCPArWyzqS">pic.twitter.com/TCPArWyzqS</a></p>— Bad COVID-19 Takes (@BadCOVID19Takes) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes/status/1252698607926591489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Oh man that account is brilliant!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/YByHDuhc2D">pic.twitter.com/YByHDuhc2D</a></p>— Bad COVID-19 Takes (@BadCOVID19Takes) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes/status/1252611548562022401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/XWZvx6kTyK">pic.twitter.com/XWZvx6kTyK</a></p>— Bad COVID-19 Takes (@BadCOVID19Takes) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes/status/1252380611425124353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/ss7PTrAd07">pic.twitter.com/ss7PTrAd07</a></p>— Bad COVID-19 Takes (@BadCOVID19Takes) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes/status/1252293200913461248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/InzX6F2Xs2">pic.twitter.com/InzX6F2Xs2</a></p>— Bad COVID-19 Takes (@BadCOVID19Takes) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes/status/1251557352441962497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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If only he had even more viewers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Study finds people who watched Sean Hannity were more likely to die from COVID-19 - <a href="https://t.co/fU8VcSf2tL">https://t.co/fU8VcSf2tL</a></p>— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) <a href="https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1252781142392135681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

btw where did the Div-I orcs slither off to? Did they need another safe space to peddle their propaganda?
 
Slap Shot said:
If only he had even more viewers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Study finds people who watched Sean Hannity were more likely to die from COVID-19 - <a href="https://t.co/fU8VcSf2tL">https://t.co/fU8VcSf2tL</a></p>— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) <a href="https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1252781142392135681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

btw where did the Div-I orcs slither off to? Did they need another safe space to peddle their propaganda?
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UNH thread, mostly.
 
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Slap Shot said:
If only he had even more viewers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Study finds people who watched Sean Hannity were more likely to die from COVID-19 - <a href="https://t.co/fU8VcSf2tL">https://t.co/fU8VcSf2tL</a></p>— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) <a href="https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1252781142392135681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

btw where did the Div-I orcs slither off to? Did they need another safe space to peddle their propaganda?
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There are more protests coming- did he suggest doing that? Seeing how they are playing out, go for it.

No, not really- I really don't want to see people suffer and die, but it's pretty frustrating that there are so many people out there willing to risk other people's lives for their "demands". And while I don't want to see people suffer and die, I also don't really have much sympathy for them, nor do I think their insurance coverage should willingly pay 100% for their care. Especially given that most of them don't think we should have universal healthcare coverage of some type.
 
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Can't wait till America starts believing in science again. Where's the testing?
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Can't wait till America starts believing in science again. Where's the testing?
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">you're telling everyone to rush back into the house before the firemen have finished putting out the fire. and now when all the toilet-lickers get sick, we're going to have to START OVER FROM SCRATCH with the social distancing and the ventilators and the dying. ACE JOB, HOMESLICE</p>— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) <a href="https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1252929426251304961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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We ain't never going back to complete shutdown. If and when this thing starts spiking again, there's no way Trump allows states to shut down again. You stay open, or you get no help.

Die for the Dow. People dying don't matter. Anyway, it'll be the right people dying. Mostly. All that matters is that big business and Wall St. get back to making money, and Donnie gets re-elected. To achieve that, everything and everyone else is expendable.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There should be separate MAGA hospitals staffed by MAGA doctors like Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil to treat MAGA protesters from Harrisburg who become <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> patients.<a href="https://t.co/1DXOGNlIX5">pic.twitter.com/1DXOGNlIX5</a></p>— Nancy Levine 🏡#StayHome (@nancylevine) <a href="https://twitter.com/nancylevine/status/1252281318420832257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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rufus said:
We ain't never going back to complete shutdown. If and when this thing starts spiking again, there's no way Trump allows states to shut down again. You stay open, or you get no help.

Die for the Dow. People dying don't matter. Anyway, it'll be the right people dying. Mostly. All that matters is that big business and Wall St. get back to making money, and Donnie gets re-elected. To achieve that, everything and everyone else is expendable.
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That's about it.
 
Re: Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

rufus said:
We ain't never going back to complete shutdown. If and when this thing starts spiking again, there's no way Trump allows states to shut down again. You stay open, or you get no help.

Die for the Dow. People dying don't matter. Anyway, it'll be the right people dying. Mostly. All that matters is that big business and Wall St. get back to making money, and Donnie gets re-elected. To achieve that, everything and everyone else is expendable.
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For some weird reason, old people don't want to die for the Dow. Seniors 65+ prefer Biden 52-43 after Trump beat Clinton by 7 in 2016.
 
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