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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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2,833 deaths yesterday according to this tracker. That is single highest daily result since the pandemic began. 10 months in and people still can't get their s**t together. The 7-day moving average will be over 1,700 in no time but regardless the country is currently tracking for 327k dead by EOY. Current numbers over the course of 12 months would result in 600k dead.
 
So Japan has lost 2,161 people to covid in 2020. The US lost over 3100 on Wednesday
 
I'm sure this was covered in this thread as I havent kept up with it, but Yankee Candle has been getting lower and lower ratings on their candles since early this spring, despite zero changes in the manufacturing and distribution process.

Why?

Because those reviewers likely have mild or no symptoms from Coronavirus, and have lost their sense of smell.

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alfablue said:
One thing to say, hovey- we are not bashing your states because they are doing it wrong. Everyone here wants people to NOT DIE. We have added a new way of dying, where some parts of the community really want to prevent this new way of dying as much as possible. This isn't an insignificant way of dying- it still has the potential of being the #1 way over 12 months if we are not careful over the next 3 months. Which would be a horrible tragedy that so many people die when it's been clearly shown that they didn't have to die.

Much like how we address the many ways of getting cancer, or or heart disease, or car crashes- yea, people just die from that- but we have worked hard as a society to minimize those deaths as much as we can reasonably do. Seeing how other countries have prevented COVID19 deaths, it's rather obvious that we, as a country, are nowhere near doing as much as we reasonably can do.

And that's where all of the frustration comes from. It just gets directed at areas of the country who seem to be doing a particularly bad job, especially when there's been time to prepare and know what to do.
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Yeah, I understand. Trust me, people bash North Dakota all the time. We're used to it, and probably enjoy it too, to be honest. It's nice to know people still realize we exist.

Again, I'm not here claiming that people who choose to gather, people who refuse to wear masks, etc..., are making good decisions. My whole point is that rather than ascribe bad motives to them, I personally believe their actions can be chalked up to pretty common human behavior. I think there is way, way too much demonization of people, of casting blame or finger pointing, that occurs in this country right now, over everything, and I don't think it's helpful, or for that matter, particularly healthy. But that' just my two cents.
 
If the literature and conversations about seat-belts were happening today instead of in the 1950s and 1960s can you imagine how politicized that would be?

The science on how to prevent the spread of covid and to minimize the numbers of those getting sick and dying is every bit as accurate and fact-based as that used to show people why seat belts were important and how they worked. Millions of lives have been saved because of the use of seat belts (not to mention the myriad other advances we have made in auto safety technology over the last 50 years since seat belts and shoulder harnesses became mandatory and standard in all cars).

95% of the pushback on seat-belts was from the manufacturers and was from a cost perspective until they began to realize that dead people can't buy another car and surviving a horrible crash in a Chevy or a Ford meant you would most likely consider buying ANOTHER Chevy or Ford to replace the one that was totaled. Masks and social distancing costs are negligible. The evidence proves both work to slow the spread of COVID.

We all should be twice as smart as we were in 1950 or 1960. Why are so many of us dumber?
 
Someone posting this has generated the following comments made with not a shred of sarcasm nor satire:

Definitely a message sent ahead
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Vince Flynn’s book released in 2019 was about a SARS like biological attack.
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Kristina Ammon and Dan Brown wrote a book about a biological weapon being released that sterilizes the populace.
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They’ve been planning a long time. Throwing it in our faces. Unless you are a socialist how can you not get on Trumps wagon?
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Messages we didn't see, nor acknowledge..why would we(?). But it's obvious now!!
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Between this, the Hollywood disclosures, and Event 201, they really must think we are too stupid to see it!
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Seriously I can't fu***ng even.
 
SJHovey said:
Yeah, I understand. Trust me, people bash North Dakota all the time. We're used to it, and probably enjoy it too, to be honest. It's nice to know people still realize we exist.

Again, I'm not here claiming that people who choose to gather, people who refuse to wear masks, etc..., are making good decisions. My whole point is that rather than ascribe bad motives to them, I personally believe their actions can be chalked up to pretty common human behavior. I think there is way, way too much demonization of people, of casting blame or finger pointing, that occurs in this country right now, over everything, and I don't think it's helpful, or for that matter, particularly healthy. But that' just my two cents.
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You know, if you didn't want finger-pointing, maybe a mask mandate and not holding Sturgis during a pandemic would have been prudent choices.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
If the literature and conversations about seat-belts were happening today instead of in the 1950s and 1960s can you imagine how politicized that would be?
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Imagine today's cons' rhetoric on the 1930s roll out of sulfa drugs to treat venereal diseases.

VD is God's sacred punishment! You offering sulfa drugs to save other people violates my religious liberty!

Actually, that's exactly what the churches argued.

The morons have always been with us.
 
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You know, if you didn't want finger-pointing, maybe a mask mandate and not holding Sturgis during a pandemic would have been prudent choices.
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Does finger pointing help? I ask that question seriously. Personally, I think in many instances it simply causes people to further dig in their heels.

With respect to Sturgis, personally I think it would have been a bad decision to attend. But SD did not "hold" Sturgis. It's not a state sponsored event at all. Could the State have stepped in and implemented some sort of order banning large gatherings. They could have, but I don't know that it would have prevented it from occurring. It didn't prevent that rodeo in northern Minnesota from occurring.

That study about Sturgis that someone linked to awhile back showed that Hennepin County was in the top 10, I believe, of all counties in the U.S. from whence Sturgis participants came. Could Minnesota, or Hennepin County have enacted a rule that said that if you go to Sturgis, you must isolate and quarantine for 14 days before re-entering Minnesota? Yeah, they could have, but they didn't. But I don't point the finger at Minnesota or Hennepin county for not doing that.

I've never really been a big fan of playing the blame game. Sure, if you are trying to prosecute someone for a crime, or of you are suing someone for a wrong, you legally have to blame someone. But just in general, I don't find it helpful. Too often I think it is done because it makes the blamer feel better about himself or herself, or maybe even because there is a deepseated guilt in the blamer's own mind about his or her role in the problem.

To each his own, obviously.
 
SJHovey said:
I think there is way, way too much demonization of people, of casting blame or finger pointing, that occurs in this country right now, over everything, and I don't think it's helpful, or for that matter, particularly healthy.
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Next on Fox: arsonists for hire object to unfair liberal stigma. "Just trying to keep my business open!"
 
Kepler said:
Imagine today's cons' rhetoric on the 1930s roll out of sulfa drugs to treat venereal diseases.

VD is God's sacred punishment! You offering sulfa drugs to save other people violates my religious liberty!

Actually, that's exactly what the churches argued.

The morons have always been with us.
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What if this pandemic, instead of being a respiratory virus, was a disease ravaging the gay community, transmitted primarily through sexual contact? In the interest of public health you'd support an effort by the conservative SD governor to place a temporary ban on all gay sexual contact, you know, just until the crisis passed?
 
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