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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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SJHovey said:
People like dx, more knowledgeable in statistics than me, might have a more accurate explanation, but I’ve always understood that if they say a vaccine is 90% effective they mean that there are 90% fewer instances of infection in the test group than they expected.
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You give me far too much credit. :-)

but my understanding is that they give 100 people the real vaccine and 100 people the placebo. They wait until X people get sick with the placebo. They then compare that to how many people got sick with the vaccine.

So if 10 got sick on the placebo and only 1 got sick on the vaccine, that’s a 90% reduction.
 
Yeah I think the crisis charting has been going on in Minnesota for a bit now.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Alternate headline:

”47% of Americans choosing to have bonfires in California forests during August holidays”
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Problem solves itself.

I hope conservatives invite MORE people to Thanksgiving. Please, cram every last one of them into their kitchens and living rooms and whatever they have on the farm and in the mobile home.

"This is now a rebellion." Close the hospitals. God will know his own.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
You give me far too much credit. :-)

but my understanding is that they give 100 people the real vaccine and 100 people the placebo. They wait until X people get sick with the placebo. They then compare that to how many people got sick with the vaccine.

So if 10 got sick on the placebo and only 1 got sick on the vaccine, that’s a 90% reduction.
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I get that but if they are in an area with a lot of masking, people being safe doesn't that skew what is going on? We know that masking decreases the numbers.
 
Kepler said:
Problem solves itself.

I hope conservatives invite MORE people to Thanksgiving. Please, cram every last one of them into their kitchens and living rooms and whatever they have on the farm and in the mobile home.

"This is now a rebellion." Close the hospitals. God will know his own.
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Wait, are you saying you want some harm to befall these patriotic Americans? What are you, some kinda sociopath?
 
leswp1 said:
I get that but if they are in an area with a lot of masking, people being safe doesn't that skew what is going on? We know that masking decreases the numbers.
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The trial design is key and in the case of Pfizer, I believe they covered everything. Besides the bare basics of being double blinded and controlled, they had their participants in several nations, across Age groups, ethnic groups, etc. so the participants would have been of a large cross section- some essential workers, some in schools, some in group homes, some in nations with no lockdown ..the key is in the control design .

the Class I had On study designs was one of the most interesting ones for me in the public health program
 
leswp1 said:
I get that but if they are in an area with a lot of masking, people being safe doesn't that skew what is going on? We know that masking decreases the numbers.
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With enough people in a carefully designed study, it doesn’t matter. As long as the two groups are statistically large enough and don’t behave differently.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
The trial design is key and in the case of Pfizer, I believe they covered everything. Besides the bare basics of being double blinded and controlled, they had their participants in several nations, across Age groups, ethnic groups, etc. so the participants would have been of a large cross section- some essential workers, some in schools, some in group homes, some in nations with no lockdown ..the key is in the control design .

the Class I had On study designs was one of the most interesting ones for me in the public health program
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^^ What she said.

She’s the expert. I’m some schmuck regurgitating it from these people.
 
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