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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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rufus said:
And, those who didn't die, how much work did they miss? Are they still out of work with long term effects? Are they back at restricted duty? What industries have seen their sector hit harder by Covid illnesses?

Jebbers, there's more impacts from Covid than just getting better or dying from it.
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This is something anyone who studies Public Health has beaten into them. I witnessed this many times in my patient population even before COVID.

The impact any serious illness has a massive ripple effect. The vast majority of our population has no coverage for long term care and there is no way to afford it without some sort of insurance. THe person gets sick and it disrupts the precarious balance between members- all of them need to be capable to make things work. One member gets sick. They cannot afford in home care and the person doesn't qualify or can't afford admission to a facility. That means a family member needs to decrease hours or quit to pick up the pieces, care for the person. Now they've lost more income. They make enough they don't qualify for help but do not have liquid assets to pay for anything. Many times one of those people was involved in the patchwork of folks that manage to cover childcare. Another nightmare.

Take home- our country is backwater, third country when it comes to survival of living with a serious chronic illness. A person has to bankrupt them self in order to qualify for assistance and in most cases the entire family's financial standing is diminished. It usually doesn't recover.
 
leswp1 said:
This is something anyone who studies Public Health has beaten into them. I witnessed this many times in my patient population even before COVID.

The impact any serious illness has a massive ripple effect. The vast majority of our population has no coverage for long term care and there is no way to afford it without some sort of insurance. THe person gets sick and it disrupts the precarious balance between members- all of them need to be capable to make things work. One member gets sick. They cannot afford in home care and the person doesn't qualify or can't afford admission to a facility. That means a family member needs to decrease hours or quit to pick up the pieces, care for the person. Now they've lost more income. They make enough they don't qualify for help but do not have liquid assets to pay for anything. Many times one of those people was involved in the patchwork of folks that manage to cover childcare. Another nightmare.

Take home- our country is backwater, third country when it comes to survival of living with a serious chronic illness. A person has to bankrupt them self in order to qualify for assistance and in most cases the entire family's financial standing is diminished. It usually doesn't recover.
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But that's how capitalism works- if you can't afford it, sucks for you. I'm sure that's what jebbers and sic thinks. Helping each other is clearly communism. Unless, of course, you all pool your money together and cover other rich people like you- insurance is communism for profit, and that's ok.

Which is to say, I feel for people who really try, but for the deniers or any person who actively tries to keep this going- that does really suck for you- since you did it to yourself.
 
Yeah republicans don’t give a fuck about DALY, the hallmark of any public health 101 class
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
SCSU family in front of us was bleating like eild animals in between stuffing food into their fat faces. No mask at any time. Student section? I think I saw like 3 masks total
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Cornell student section at tonight's Princeton exhibition was the opposite. All the kids were in masks and I was proud of them. In all honesty I assumed they would be YDFC as per us 1981 but apparently they are much more mature than we at their age.

It helps not to have conservatards. God bless admissions standards.
 
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rufus said:
Also, what about the families of those who've lost a loved one? What's been the impact on their lives? How much work have they missed? Have they taken leave? Just quit? Been fired for missing work, or not being as productive?

How are they coping, or managing to? Are they managing to? How are they able to drag their *** out of bed every morning and head off to their ****ty job every day?

Or has their world just effectively ended?
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Les captured my own thoughts well, but I absolutely did not mean to imply that death only effects the dead.
 
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Les captured my own thoughts well, but I absolutely did not mean to imply that death only effects the dead.
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Wasn't directed at you, more of a continuation of where I was going toward Sic.

He, like Jebbers, feels the only consequences from Covid are you either get sick and recover, or get sick and die. There's a whole lot more to it than that. as can be seen in the current issues with the supply chain.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/10/07/covid-deaths-parents-children/

To that point:
A new study published Thursday in the journal Pediatrics attempts to quantify the vast hole left by these deaths, estimating that roughly 140,000 children under 18 may have lost parents or caregivers from March 2020 to June 2021 due to covid or other causes classified as pandemic-related. Those numbers take into account both official covid deaths and deaths from other causes, such as homicides and drug overdoses, beyond those expected in a typical yearbefore the pandemic.
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This indicates that this number of 140,000 children does not include the Delta wave.
 
Family member has now come down with Covid and is stuck in Europe on a trip now because of the positive test. Was vaccinated, no booster.
 
On Powell.
He was an 84yr-old prostate cancer survivor battling multiple myeloma = cancerous plasma cells accumulate in bone marrow, crowd out healthy white blood cells, & the cancer cells produce abnormal proteins instead of helpful antibodies thus making mRNA vaccines much less effective.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Right wing media already using Powell death to scream that vaccines aren’t working

he had cancer. It weakened his immune system.

matt gaetz with a hot take

https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/status/1450093560930394120?s=21
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Oh so an 84 year old with a weakened immune system due to comorbidities really died for that reason?

Now do half the “Covid deaths” that were people older than avg life expectancy and had an average of 4-6 comorbidities. What did they die of?

#Covidians
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Family member has now come down with Covid and is stuck in Europe on a trip now because of the positive test. Was vaccinated, no booster.
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The “vaccine” isn’t sterilizing. It doesn’t prevent or stop transmission of Covid.

Actually brings up a good question why is there no correlation of lower “cases” in places with high vax rates?

Also why are “cases” higher now than one year ago? When as much as 70-80% of the population is vaccinated in some areas?

Hopefully it doesn’t weaken the overall immune system. That wouldn’t be good.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Right wing media already using Powell death to scream that vaccines aren’t working

he had cancer. It weakened his immune system.

matt gaetz with a hot take

https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/status/1450093560930394120?s=21
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If it means more right wing people don't take it, we get two results- more deaths and a slow economy. That sucks.

It would be better if the right wing nuts could be isolated and the economy can get going, but that's not going to happen.

Still, the idea that it does not work is pretty dumb- there was a recent report that there were 11x more covid deaths in unvaccinated than vaccinated. Yea, EVEYRONE should know that it's not perfect, but 11 to 1 is SO MUCH BETTER. I wish they had hospitalizations, as well as long term effect ratio, too.
 
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