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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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False.
The biggest revelation with COVID-19 was not that most people would submit to virtually anything - they will - but that they will actually learn to love their chains and beg for more.
Thus why any rational inquiry is forbidden and anyone living their life freely is a threat.
#CovidZombies
lmao ^#CovidZombie
Bill de Blasio on March 10: “We want to encourage” NYers going out. “If you’re under 50 & you’re healthy, which is most NYers, there’s very little threat here. This disease, even if you were to get it, basically acts like a common cold or flu.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1244016912281059329
He had to lie to you to protect you because he loves you. ^CovidZombie
https://twitter.com/i/status/1345457458387542017
#Science
I bet all those people that were put on vents that had no reason to be would like a redo. But at least it was because of #Science
Amazing WSJ article casually describing how hospitals got hysterical in March, stopped following known protocols, and contributed to the spike in March/April deaths.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hospita...cs-11608491436
Haunting title: “Hospitals Retreat From Early Covid Treatment and Return to Basics”
“Let us go back to basics,” stated Dr. Eduardo Oliveira, government med director for Introduction Health Central Florida, which recommends its medical doctors persist with pre-pandemic tips for ventilator use. “The less you deviate from it, the better.” Hysteria kills.
“We were intubating sick patients very early. Not for the patients’ benefit, but in order to control the epidemic and to save other patients. That felt awful,” states Dr. Iwashyna, a critical-care doctor at UMichigan and Dept of Vet Affairs in Ann Arbor. Read that again.
What’s so bad about putting infirm patients on unnecessary ventilators? Ventilators can injure lungs by inflicting an excessive amount of pressure. ‘We’ve got gag reflexes that are pretty hard to go away, precisely to avoid things going into our lungs,” Dr. Iwashyna stated.
And the push for unnecessary, non-standard-practice, ventilators also endangered the patients’ lives because intubated patients require higher levels of sedation, which itself raises the chances of death.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Wow, did the troll hitchhike back from dc and get internet access back?
in fun news, looks like the post covid hair loss has started with me. I thought maybe it wasn’t coming if it hadn’t hit yet but pulled out an unusually large handful of hair in the shower this morning
in fun news, looks like the post covid hair loss has started with me. I thought maybe it wasn’t coming if it hadn’t hit yet but pulled out an unusually large handful of hair in the shower this morning
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Oh it seems to be very common. If you google it you get a lot of hits. Should be temporary but can happen after your body goes through major stresses
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
MichVandal
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It's worse than that. Not only did we all see how serious this was early on, dumpy knew how bad this was back in December, if I get the info right. Or at least in Feb, he was made fully aware how dangerous it was, but INENTIONALLY decided to downplay it. Lets we forget, be bragged about downplaying it.
We can't forget that history. That POS has lead to hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths in this country.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
n - 150k, so, as of now Republicans have murdered 250,000 people to keep their numbskull ideology out there and keep their snowflakes' feewies safe.
The GQP is the greatest national security threat to Americans. They have murdered almost 100x the number that Islamist terrorists have.
MichVandal
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So by now, we have a good idea how long an COVID infection lasts- (not that I actually know it, but I think others do)- from no symptoms at all to bad symptoms that can last months. Right now the expectation for COVID infections that don't show symptoms is 10-14 days for safety.
I think I have that right.
Anyway- is there any data out there that shows how long an infection lasts if you have the vaccination? The idea of the vaccine is to pretty much eliminate any symptoms of COVID- right? And the fact that you can still get infected with the vaccine is why the makers are still requiring masks.
So the question is- does the time you are infected, which is the time you can spread it, change? Change to the point that it alters the R number of the spread.
I think I have that right.
Anyway- is there any data out there that shows how long an infection lasts if you have the vaccination? The idea of the vaccine is to pretty much eliminate any symptoms of COVID- right? And the fact that you can still get infected with the vaccine is why the makers are still requiring masks.
So the question is- does the time you are infected, which is the time you can spread it, change? Change to the point that it alters the R number of the spread.
How would you know if someone has an infection without symptoms? I don't think you have much right at all. Asymptomatic spread is hardly a thing. That is why it only appears in absurd models where the intention is to show a-spread. Because there is no data in the real world that it is a driver.
Gotta love it. The vaccine that doesn't stop you from getting it and it also doesn't stop you from passing it to someone.
#CovidZombies #LetsPlayCovidForever
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774707
Truly bizarre paper. The authors construct a model showing that 59% of Covid spread is asymptomatic, then pass that off the model's results as their own "proof" of that claim. I guess actual evidence doesn't matter anymore.
How do they get the results that they claim, you ask? Easy. They build those results into their model's assumptions with nice round guesstimates.
One set of hard-coded assumptions in their model dictates that 24% of cases are from completely asymptomatic individuals. A second set of assumptions for presymptomatic spread gets them 35%. Add them together? 59% of cases are from asymptomatic transmission. No evidence needed.
Gotta love it. The vaccine that doesn't stop you from getting it and it also doesn't stop you from passing it to someone.
#CovidZombies #LetsPlayCovidForever
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774707
Truly bizarre paper. The authors construct a model showing that 59% of Covid spread is asymptomatic, then pass that off the model's results as their own "proof" of that claim. I guess actual evidence doesn't matter anymore.
How do they get the results that they claim, you ask? Easy. They build those results into their model's assumptions with nice round guesstimates.
One set of hard-coded assumptions in their model dictates that 24% of cases are from completely asymptomatic individuals. A second set of assumptions for presymptomatic spread gets them 35%. Add them together? 59% of cases are from asymptomatic transmission. No evidence needed.
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Good morning #CovidZombie^. Please articulate how all these deaths of very elderly/sick people were preventable?
In regards to the seriousness early on...
In 2020, the year's storyline was set in motion with the Imperial College prediction of 2.2 million US covid deaths. From there, the Western world careened down the response path that would ultimately define 2020. The year ended with just 15% of those predicted deaths.
Not to mention that the 2.2 million was predicted in the first 5 months. We are now 10 months in. So its actually much less than 15% coming true from the hysterical prediction.
Again, I will ask how were they preventable, especially when reality ended up being a fraction of the predicted?
And remember your very own personal hysteria was driven by these models.
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leswp1
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Curious about this too. I think we got fast results as far as showing immunity but I haven't seen much else (Admit I have been slacking and not looking- in overload with too much stuff to look at)
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
I can't tell if these people are morons or know something I don't.
On the one hand, 40% rings a bell as the rough proportion of conservative ding bats in New York. On the other hand, given how selfish conservatives are it's doubtful they make up even a fraction of 40% of health workers.
Which brings up the possibility that as health workers these people know that the Dumpies cut corners and may have allowed unsafe / defective vaccines onto the market to save their wrinkled old ashes.
I just don't know whether this is more accurately ascribed to the Right's stupidity or its evil.
On the one hand, 40% rings a bell as the rough proportion of conservative ding bats in New York. On the other hand, given how selfish conservatives are it's doubtful they make up even a fraction of 40% of health workers.
Which brings up the possibility that as health workers these people know that the Dumpies cut corners and may have allowed unsafe / defective vaccines onto the market to save their wrinkled old ashes.
I just don't know whether this is more accurately ascribed to the Right's stupidity or its evil.
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I don’t personally know anyone who thinks they’re not safe in the health care realm.
the data from Pfizer and moderna was pretty good. Now, I read the study designs and understand what it means. Without seeing that I’d have issues with anything backed by this admin, but turns out they didn’t really do much.
there may be some holding back due to fear of a bad reaction
the data from Pfizer and moderna was pretty good. Now, I read the study designs and understand what it means. Without seeing that I’d have issues with anything backed by this admin, but turns out they didn’t really do much.
there may be some holding back due to fear of a bad reaction
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