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Yes...poor little persecuted Jeb. Poor you.
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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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Yes...poor little persecuted Jeb. Poor you.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Precisely. As the virus starts to fade away they will say it was all the masks.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kylamb8/s...75675025350657
I thought Japan always wore masks? Why the case surge?
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-official.html
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First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
Again...masks alone aren't enough. Social distancing alone isn't enough. Nothing works 100% of the time. It's a combination of things that will beat this.
You should know that considering how many people here have been saying it for months now.
But you want the fight..."genuine conversation" my ass.
So why the case surge in Japan? What have they started doing differently?
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Been away from this board for six months (new job) and catch the first week of this new board layout?
I’m stepping away to buy a lottery ticket ... I guess.
(Fighting Hawks mask on.)
I’m stepping away to buy a lottery ticket ... I guess.
(Fighting Hawks mask on.)
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
I have no idea. I'm not a doctor. I sure you'll come up with your usual baseless theory.
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First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
You weren't missed.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
This is what honesty and integrity looks like, Michael Osterholm. Osterholm predicted everything that has happened. The irresponsibility in how the media would report the situation, how the complete slime ball politicians would take advantage of the situation, and all the chaos and confusion that will take place from all the mixed messages.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/sites/def...s_6.2.20_0.pdf
In regards to cloth masks. It’s all been based on junk.
“On April 3
White House officials the week before its release that such a document would be forthcoming. The document entitled, "Recommendation regarding the use of cloth face coverings, especially in areas of significant community-based transmission," stated that “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g. grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.” The new evidence the document was referring to was investigation reports and studies demonstrating presymptomatic or asymptomatic transmission. The recommendation was published without a single scientific paper or other information provided to support that cloth masks actually provide any respiratory protection. There were seven reports or papers listed as “Recent Studies” that detailed the risk of presymptomatic or asymptomatic transmission. There was nothing about how well such masks protect against virus transmission, particularly from aerosol-related transmission.
Never before in my 45 year career have I seen such a far-reaching public recommendation issued by any governmental agency without a single source of data or information to support it. This is an extremely worrisome precedent of implementing policies not based on science-based data or why they were issued without such data. I understand recommending prevention measures in the face of a dangerous pandemic even when data may be lacking; applying the John Snow approach to pulling the pump handle has been at the very core of my public health career. Yet the precautionary principle that emphasizes caution, pausing and review before leaping into new interventions must also be considered. If these cloth masks do little to reduce virus transmission due in large part to their lack of protection against aerosol inhalation or exhalation, do we not
, the CDC published a document that had been anticipated following statements by
have an obligation to tell the public of this potential limitation? How many cases of COVID-19 will occur when people using cloth masks and not understanding the limitations of their effectiveness participate in activities with others where virus transmission does occur? I believe this cloth mask recommendation situation represented the other low point in CDC’s response to COVID-19 with the other being the failed testing situation. I have talked to close friends and colleagues who work at CDC and who were involved on the periphery with this issue. They universally disagreed with the publication of this recommendation based on the lack of information supporting that cloth masks actually reduced the risk of virus transmission to or from someone wearing a cloth mask. The CDC recommendation document states that CDC continues to study the spread and effects of the novel coronavirus across the United States. When people state that CDC recommends cloth face mask use you have to understand there was much more going on than science and public health protection with this recommendation. I urge you go online to the CDC website yourself and you’ll not find one piece of information supporting that cloth masks are effective in reducing respiratory virus transmission.”
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/sites/def...s_6.2.20_0.pdf
In regards to cloth masks. It’s all been based on junk.
“On April 3
White House officials the week before its release that such a document would be forthcoming. The document entitled, "Recommendation regarding the use of cloth face coverings, especially in areas of significant community-based transmission," stated that “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g. grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.” The new evidence the document was referring to was investigation reports and studies demonstrating presymptomatic or asymptomatic transmission. The recommendation was published without a single scientific paper or other information provided to support that cloth masks actually provide any respiratory protection. There were seven reports or papers listed as “Recent Studies” that detailed the risk of presymptomatic or asymptomatic transmission. There was nothing about how well such masks protect against virus transmission, particularly from aerosol-related transmission.
Never before in my 45 year career have I seen such a far-reaching public recommendation issued by any governmental agency without a single source of data or information to support it. This is an extremely worrisome precedent of implementing policies not based on science-based data or why they were issued without such data. I understand recommending prevention measures in the face of a dangerous pandemic even when data may be lacking; applying the John Snow approach to pulling the pump handle has been at the very core of my public health career. Yet the precautionary principle that emphasizes caution, pausing and review before leaping into new interventions must also be considered. If these cloth masks do little to reduce virus transmission due in large part to their lack of protection against aerosol inhalation or exhalation, do we not
, the CDC published a document that had been anticipated following statements by
have an obligation to tell the public of this potential limitation? How many cases of COVID-19 will occur when people using cloth masks and not understanding the limitations of their effectiveness participate in activities with others where virus transmission does occur? I believe this cloth mask recommendation situation represented the other low point in CDC’s response to COVID-19 with the other being the failed testing situation. I have talked to close friends and colleagues who work at CDC and who were involved on the periphery with this issue. They universally disagreed with the publication of this recommendation based on the lack of information supporting that cloth masks actually reduced the risk of virus transmission to or from someone wearing a cloth mask. The CDC recommendation document states that CDC continues to study the spread and effects of the novel coronavirus across the United States. When people state that CDC recommends cloth face mask use you have to understand there was much more going on than science and public health protection with this recommendation. I urge you go online to the CDC website yourself and you’ll not find one piece of information supporting that cloth masks are effective in reducing respiratory virus transmission.”
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And that’s why there isn’t any correlation found with mask wearing.
Do masks really do anything? Truthfully, the evidence is mixed… thus politics has grabbed hold of the topic. I recently analyzed mask wearing across 21 countries to see if more mask-wearing led to reduced spread and deaths. The findings? There was no correlation. See below.
https://mobile.twitter.com/covid_clarity/status/1287104561208086530
Do masks really do anything? Truthfully, the evidence is mixed… thus politics has grabbed hold of the topic. I recently analyzed mask wearing across 21 countries to see if more mask-wearing led to reduced spread and deaths. The findings? There was no correlation. See below.
https://mobile.twitter.com/covid_clarity/status/1287104561208086530
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
He needs to distract from his last posts in March being about how all of this was overblown hysteria.
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
He and Jeb should be best buds then.
That’s exactly what we have right now.
In March we had overblown, disastrous if not fraudulent modeling.
Handyman
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rufus
rock and roller
Contact tracing Covfefe-19 cases. That's why he hasn't been around, he's been reeeal busy.
Contact tracing at this point in the spread is a complete waste of time and resources.
- Prospect of contact tracing: "Right now, trying to do contact tracing in many locations around this country would be like trying to plant your petunias in a Category Five hurricane. Not possible."
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