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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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But the problem is, proper precautions don't really allow for sitting inside a restaurant or really anywhere. The precautions like masks and distancing apply when you can't eliminate contact. The restaurant thing is particularly crazy because no amount of social distancing is going to work indoors. This is well-documented in several journals:

A1 was the infected person and everyone in red was infected and likely A1. C1 and C2 were even "upwind" and about 10 ft away from the person. THey still got infected.
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Oh dont get me wrong, I didnt want to go to that restaurant and eat in that situation. My mom picked the place for her birthday...I usually only eat on patios.

But there was more people in my section of the restaurant than there was in the movie theater I was in. And they were a helluva lot closer. I picked seats way far away from anyone else and again wore a mask the entire time unlike in the restaurant.
 
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1307040205652795396

Officials at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) attempted to silence scientists from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), emails obtained by the New York Times show.

HHS advisor Paul Alexander, who left the department this week amid a controversy involving the agency’s top communications official Michael Caputo, criticized CDC Deputy Director Anne Schuchat over an interview she did in June in which she said there is “way too much virus across the country.”

“Her aim is to embarrass the president,” Alexander wrote in a two-page critique of her interview.

Alexander later called Schuchat “duplicitous” in an email to Caputo, who took a 60-day "leave of absence” this week after he made comments attacking career CDC scientists for being anti-Trump.

He told Caputo to “remind” Schuchat that during the 2009 H1N1 swine flu outbreak thousands of Americans had died “under her work.” He also erroneously stated that “the risk of death in children 0-19 years of age is basically 0 (zero) … PERIOD … she has lied.”

According to other emails obtained by the Times, Caputo sought to discipline a CDC press officer who approved several interviews between a CDC epidemiologist and NPR after the White House moved data collection responsibilities from the CDC to HHS.

“I need to know who did it,” Caputo, a former Trump campaign aide, wrote. After not receiving a response a day later, he said: “I have not received a response to my email for 20 hours. This is unacceptable ... I need this information to properly manage department communications. If you disobey my directions, you will be held accountable.”

One CDC communications staffer asked other senior officials how to respond, saying they are “uncomfortable turning over our employee’s name to Mr. Caputo, given the hostility of the message.”
 
To further the Myocarditis "epidemic" that is the newest SCARE affliction in the conversation, let's play out some numbers and see if this is close to what is represented in ACTUAL real life. Not Prescence confirmed the Myocarditis rate is absolutely 15%.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL - 3 Power Conferences
Big 12 = 10 teams
ACC = 15 teams (don’t forget South Bend CC)
SEC = 14 teams
NCAA FBS Scholarship limit = 85

Do simple Math:
A) 39 teams X 85 players = 3,315 total players
B) Myocarditis affliction Rate: 15%
C) EXPECTED # of AFFECTED PLAYERS: 3,315 X .15 = 497 PLAYERS???

How does this number stack up against what we ACTUALLY know? Number of KNOWN Myocarditis cases from ALL SPORTS causing an athlete to sit out or die (feel free to add any new ones to this list)

1) Eduardo Rodriguez Boston Red Sox - Age 27 - in treatment
2) Indiana O Lineman - Age ? - in treatment
3) Serbian Pro Basketball player - Age 27 - died

When gauging these 3 against ONLY the 39 college football teams above, the percentage works out to 0.09%. How do we get to 15% from here? Is this where "new" math enters the picture? :-)

The Big 10 had a change of heart (no pun intended) on the prevalence and severity of Myocarditis. The football season is NOW, BACK ON!

Appears that the School Presidents, AD's and the league office listened to the fear mongering and jumped to overhyped conclusions when deciding to abruptly shut down the season. First it was 30-35%, then 15% and now ??%.

How did this happen? Why do we continue to latch on to every worst case scenario related to corona? Maybe the media REALLY isn't looking at the "science"?

Any takers on this one?
 
That's absolute nonsense.

https://covidtracking.com/data/state...ospitalization

Hospitalizations are nowhere near down 44% for the last few weeks. They just aren't testing as much.

I didn't say red states. I said two very specific states, who have very vocal (and frighteningly stupid) governors.


edit: a close friend is an ER doctor in urban Atlanta. She hasn't had anything approaching a break due to COVID since March. But screw her, and her well-being, right? I mean, it's a hoax and sick people aren't coming in every single day...

Anything Swansong???

You mean test less, like test more per capita than any country in the world between Feb 20 - Sept 14? And in many comparisons testing hundreds more per capita than other Countries.

Is that the kind of testing less that you mean? Let me know your thoughts. How much more should we be testing?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/f...-02-20..latest

Since every Country in the world tests less than the US. What would happen to their cases if every country tested the exact same as the US per capita?

Interesting you make a quip That's one way to make case numbers look better - test less! in regards to the Country testing the most in the World and in most scenarios by an extremely wide margin.

Nice context & you are a context guy right? Let me know if this is a post that needs some moderation?

Update: As of yesterday.

In case you missed it, another "record" was set yesterday with 986,403 new tests reported in the U.S. Almost a million tests tests tests. Remember... flu season averages about 1.5 million in an entire season. Infections, symptoms, hospitalizations and deaths are falling. TEST!

Keep up the good work.
 
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Turns out the “we love Science” crowd doesn’t know the difference between case fatality rate and infection fatality rate. This level of misinformation is pretty astonishing for a mainstream news outlet this far into the pandemic.

Remember, don't be Kyle from CNN.

MSNBC

@MSNBC
215 million Americans would need to be infected with the coronavirus to reach herd immunity, a strategy Pres. Trump has said would make the virus "go away." This strategy would result in 6,385,500 deaths based on the current US fatality rate of 2.97%.
 
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Watch this two-minute video to understand how the bed-wetters in government and media are needlessly scaring the hell out of people. The ginned-up hysteria ain't about saving lives, folks. It's about them grabbing power.

2 minute versioin

Full version
 
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I'm for it once I'm assured it's safe (and yes, I will not trust any vaccine that comes out before November 3rd). Personal freedom takes a back seat to public welfare in terms of communicable diseases. Get your farking MMR and DPT vaccines, get your annual flu shot, etc.

The greatest public health accomplishment in the history of the world was the eradication of small pox.

A vaccine for a seasonal Corona Virus, lmao. Especially for healthy people, more lmao.

Potential antigenic cross-reactivity between SARS-CoV-2 and human tissue with a possible link to an increase in autoimmune diseases

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1521661620304253
 
Watch this two-minute video to understand how the bed-wetters in government and media are needlessly scaring the hell out of people. The ginned-up hysteria ain't about saving lives, folks. It's about them grabbing power.

2 minute versioin

Full version

Fantastic links, Jeb2020. Surprised that Big Tech hasn't pulled then down (yet) ...
 
1820...are you really THIS dense? Regarding your point/question about the percentage of "football" players that have tested positive for Covid and developed myocarditis; first, there is nothing in any of the articles that specifically states they were testing any other athletes besides those at THE Ohio State. In the NYT article from August, they use the word "athletes" to describe who was tested. But, Dr Daniels has never specified whether it was all/any Ohio St athletes or, just football players. Now, unlike you or Chuck, I will acknowledge that my initial response is now being countered by the Ohio St. doctor. He is now saying that his initial remarks to the New York Times reporter were taken out of context. And, that the findings aren't a reason to prevent athletics from paying. Although, it was fairly obvious he was couching his response as he also framed it as we now know what to look for and how to diagnose it. Meaning, probably every single athlete from every single sport that tests positive will have to have a cardiac MRI before being cleared to return to play. That's a heck of a lot of money...

Next, in regards to your statement that there are only three athletes who have either died from or, are still in treatment for myocarditis and THAT'S how you chose to develop your percentage of risk/safety regarding myocarditis; this goes back to the previous paragraph. If Dr. Daniels only tested OHIO St. athletes, then your percentages are garbage. They actually tested a total of 22 athletes who had tested positive for Covid, and four had mycarditis. That's 18% of them. However, since we don't know the exact prevalence of infection, it's difficult to know what the degree of potential myocarditis is. Still, according to the John's Hopkins site, we 6,751,119 infected. We also know that the number of likely infected is closer to 10-15% of the population. Let's go with just 10%...

So, using your number of just football players -- 3,315 players -- times 10%, gives us a total of 331 players. Now, multiply that by 15% and we have 50 football player -- JUST football players -- that will likely have developed myocarditis. The NCAA says they had a total of over 460,000 total athletes at all levels of competition last year At 10% that's 46,000 athletes that have already contracted Covid. Times that by 18% and we now have the possibility of 8,280 athletes with myocarditis.... and that's acceptable to you and Chuck?!?! I actually would like you to answer that...

Finally, in regards to your rant on testing; yes, we are testing more than any other country. Do you you know what the real experts -- not experts like you and Chuck -- but, real infectious disease specialists like Fauci and Olsterholm say we should be doing on a daily basis? From a New York Times article on Aug. 18...

"The Harvard Global Health Institute has suggested the country needs at least 1 million tests per day to slow the spread of the virus, and as many as 4 million per day to get ahead of the virus and stop new cases." Four million tests a day to get ahead of the virus...Meaning, even 900,000 tests aren't nearly enough. Here's the link to the article, although I'm sure neither you or Chuck will read it...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/15/u...-decrease.html

The CDC says during the week of Sept. 6-12, there was a total of 1,831,880 labratory tests. Not sure why the "our world in data" site is so different. Unless there are 650,000 non-laboratory tests each week. Divide 1,831,880 by 7 days and my calculator says that's an average of only 261,697 PER DAY... Either way, I don't know about you and Chuck but, that's nowhere near 4 million tests per day. Hell, if the CDC site is accurate, that's nowhere near 1 million tests per day. Again, this is what actual experts are saying we should do per day. Meaning, your uneducated opinion means diddly squat...
 
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