Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

[SJHovey]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

I don't think Walz intends to re-open restaurants and bars at this point. I expect his modifications to be slight. It wouldn't surprise me, for instance, if he allowed golf courses or maybe marinas to open. So long as they keep any associated bars and restaurants closed at those businesses, and so long as people follow social distancing guidelines, they can probably safely operate. We're moving into golf and boating season in Minnesota and I know the governor is under significant pressure to allow those to open up.

I could even see things like landscape businesses open.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

You guys are completely misunderstanding my point.

At some point, things are going to open up. So keep it to smaller crowds, as sort of a test run. If nothing really happens, then expand it a little. If something does happen, then back to the shutdown.

It's not difficult to understand.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

You guys are completely misunderstanding my point.

At some point, things are going to open up. So keep it to smaller crowds, as sort of a test run. If nothing really happens, then expand it a little. If something does happen, then back to the shutdown.

It's not difficult to understand.

Let's send your family out there to check for land mines. If nothing happens, then expand a little.

It's not difficult to understand if you have even a scintilla of empathy.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

You guys are completely misunderstanding my point.

At some point, things are going to open up. So keep it to smaller crowds, as sort of a test run. If nothing really happens, then expand it a little. If something does happen, then back to the shutdown.

It's not difficult to understand.

You keep smaller crowds in large spaces with lowered capacity. If they were to hold a hockey game when this comes back would you rather be with 500 people in Oceanside at ASU or 500 at LCA in Detroit?

 

[SJHovey]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

You keep smaller crowds in large spaces with lowered capacity. If they were to hold a hockey game when this comes back would you rather be with 500 people in Oceanside at ASU or 500 at LCA in Detroit?

Trick question?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

I don't know what the answer is but I'm very curious to see what/how this government supports us if the whole house of cards (the economy) comes crashing down to a complete depression until we have a vaccine.

 

[aparch]

You guys are completely misunderstanding my point.

At some point, things are going to open up. So keep it to smaller crowds, as sort of a test run. If nothing really happens, then expand it a little. If something does happen, then back to the shutdown.

It's not difficult to understand.

It takes up to two weeks for the virus to stop being contagious. If you do a "test run," you won't see a burst of cases for at least a month. Then you lock it down again and you have a two week lag again. This yo-yo-ing will do more harm in the long run.

I won't armchair quarterback this, but I will say I'd rather trust the infectious disease experts instead of listening to a optometrist who didn't finish college (Rand Paul), a cardiologist who is more famous as a TV weight loss scammer (Dr. Oz), or the POTUS who has as much medical experience as a can of Dr. Pepper.

 

[aparch]

You keep smaller crowds in large spaces with lowered capacity. If they were to hold a hockey game when this comes back would you rather be with 500 people in Oceanside at ASU or 500 at LCA in Detroit?

Concerts selling every third seat only?

Going to be a big rise in ticket prices due to demand. And plenty of people willing to stay away for a while.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

You guys are completely misunderstanding my point.

At some point, things are going to open up. So keep it to smaller crowds, as sort of a test run. If nothing really happens, then expand it a little. If something does happen, then back to the shutdown.

It's not difficult to understand.

I know you don’t intend to sound this way, and I think it gets worse the more you try to explain yourself. I think everyone can just agree they don’t agree with you.

 

[BassAle]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

optometrist who didn't finish college (Rand Paul)

I hate the guy, but Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist, not an optometrist, meaning he is an M.D. and both finished medical school and did a three year residency.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

I don't think Walz intends to re-open restaurants and bars at this point. I expect his modifications to be slight. It wouldn't surprise me, for instance, if he allowed golf courses or maybe marinas to open. So long as they keep any associated bars and restaurants closed at those businesses, and so long as people follow social distancing guidelines, they can probably safely operate. We're moving into golf and boating season in Minnesota and I know the governor is under significant pressure to allow those to open up.

I could even see things like landscape businesses open.

Yeah I can maybe see that. The landscaping businesses especially.

The other one was my roof. We had been planning to get a new roof and deck for several months now. What happens if my roof starts to leak? Also how am I going to get a HELOC to pay for it? I can live without the new deck, but the roof might not be negotiable.

Golf courses can get in line with everyone else. We don’t need golf courses open.

 

[aparch]

I hate the guy, but Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist, not an optometrist, meaning he is an M.D. and both finished medical school and did a three year residency.

I stand corrected. Thank you.

 

[BassAle]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

You guys are completely misunderstanding my point.

At some point, things are going to open up. So keep it to smaller crowds, as sort of a test run. If nothing really happens, then expand it a little. If something does happen, then back to the shutdown.

It's not difficult to understand.

yes, at some point things are going to open up. Not now though. There are a few things that need to happen first. It needs to get knocked down to a level where we can have a South Korea-like testing, contact tracing, and isolation strategy.

 

[RaceBoarder]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

I don't think Walz intends to re-open restaurants and bars at this point. I expect his modifications to be slight. It wouldn't surprise me, for instance, if he allowed golf courses or maybe marinas to open. So long as they keep any associated bars and restaurants closed at those businesses, and so long as people follow social distancing guidelines, they can probably safely operate. We're moving into golf and boating season in Minnesota and I know the governor is under significant pressure to allow those to open up.

I could even see things like landscape businesses open.

Since this started anything "outdoors" related has drawn out people that deny the threat of COVID like moths to a light. Boaters and fishermen have taken extremely short sided and selfish views (I'm in my boat in the middle of the lake by myself (with 3 friends)) and they flat out ignore they extra contact they make to partake in the activities (extra gas stops, grocery runs, bait shop visits Wally World runs for boat supplies, etc.). Add in a significant portion of people in those hobbies are hardcore Dumpy and you have a bad situation.

 

[SJHovey]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Yeah I can maybe see that. The landscaping businesses especially.

The other one was my roof. We had been planning to get a new roof and deck for several months now. What happens if my roof starts to leak? Also how am I going to get a HELOC to pay for it? I can live without the new deck, but the roof might not be negotiable.

Golf courses can get in line with everyone else. We don’t need golf courses open.

Golf is an interesting issue.

First, golf is a pretty decent summer industry here in Minnesota. Second, right now there are some significant limitations on what golf courses can even do to maintain the course itself. A golf course has to be maintained, especially early in the year, and if you just bar that from happening you're going to lose tens of millions of dollars worth of investment. Honestly, having some guy ride a mower by himself on a course is not particularly risky in terms of virus transmission.

Second, you can easily play golf and still maintain social distancing requirements. I've played many rounds by myself or with just one other person. You don't have to touch the pin, or even putt out so there is no contact with other humans.

 

[Kepler]

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Second, you can easily play golf and still maintain social distancing requirements. I've played many rounds by myself or with just one other person. You don't have to touch the pin, or even putt out so there is no contact with other humans.

I don't care about the golfers, I care about the employees and contractors who maintain the golf course.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Add in a significant portion of people in those hobbies are hardcore Dumpy and you have a bad situation.

Open all the shooting ranges. Let nature take its course.

 

[SJHovey]

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I don't care about the golfers, I care about the employees and contractors who maintain the golf course.

Maintenance employees don't need to come within 50 yards of another human.

 

[aparch]

Maintenance employees don't need to come within 50 yards of another human.

That's why we're still working on highway construction projects here in Illinois. The state DOT and Tollway authority both stressed how our industry is naturally "social distancing" anyway.

*edit* It really surprised me that highway construction wasn't going in Michigan right now. Would be prime time to get stuff done. We're accelerating the opening of the asphalt plants here in Illinois because of this.

 

[LTsatch]

Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

I hate the guy, but Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist, not an optometrist, meaning he is an M.D. and both finished medical school and did a three year residency.

And he still can't see the forest for the trees.