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Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

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We need a new hell for GOP to burn in

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This secret recording of <a href="https://twitter.com/SenatorBurr?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SenatorBurr</a> suggests some in the GOP fully grasped how serious COVID 19 would be, but refused to say so publicly -- putting American lives at risk to maintain allegiance to the Trump WH: <a href="https://t.co/QJJT2manDT">https://t.co/QJJT2manDT</a></p>— Alex Wagner (@alexwagner) <a href="https://twitter.com/alexwagner/status/1240616287602118656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

During the impeachment ramp up, hearings and trial I wondered what kinds of private conversations democratic members of congress were having with their republican counterparts. Were the behind the scenes discussions as much of a joke as the ones held in public?

I think when this is over, the democrats must go on the offensive and speak in no uncertain terms how dangerous the current republican party is to the literal health and safety of Americans. People like Burr are literally complicit in the deaths of people. Their direct and intentional inaction is why people are only now grasping concepts of the seriousness of this that, had they grasped them just 10-14 days earlier would have save lives and additionally saved countless healthcare dollars.

In addition to the trillions of dollars of wealth that just disappeared like a fart in the wind, we will be spending trillions of unnecessary dollars on healthcare, some of it in futile efforts to save people who we just not will be able to save. Republicans have behaved in a criminal and even treasonous ways. If you believe in the death penalty some of these people frankly are probably prime targets of capital punishment. If you don't, they still deserve to rot behind bars for decades or forever.

The death and destruction won't be on the same scale as it was during the civil war (hopefully) but the level of treasonous behavior on the part of a lot of republicans certainly has been. Not all of them. As trump is famous to point out, not all of them are criminals. Some of them are fine people. But if there was ever a deserved pasting with a broad brush, what is currently constituting the republican party in the United States deserves to be slathered liberally. I hope all the complicit ones rot in a hell far worse than the one people like Charles Manson is probably rotting in.
 
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Good.

“ Grocery store workers in Minnesota will now have access to free child care after Gov. Tim Walz signed an executive order classifying them as emergency workers during the coronavirus outbreak.”
 
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Last night, I learned it's not a matter of if my center is shutting down, it's a matter of when. Muskegon County, Ottawa County, and Kent County facilities have shut down. In talking with supervisors, it's basically since we're open, we're the bad guys.

My attitude is "okay. Not ideal. At least stop the bleeding, get myself an income, and go from there. A job and an income is better than nothing."
 
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Don’t forget Drumpf is German. They look at him with embarrassment, same as Americans, white males, senior citizens, and fat people.

Remember when he told Merkel he had "German heritage", and she just barely managed to stifle a laugh?
 
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Last night, I learned it's not a matter of if my center is shutting down, it's a matter of when. Muskegon County, Ottawa County, and Kent County facilities have shut down. In talking with supervisors, it's basically since we're open, we're the bad guys.

My attitude is "okay. Not ideal. At least stop the bleeding, get myself an income, and go from there. A job and an income is better than nothing."

Look into filing for unemployment.
 
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COVID-19: interesting data from Korea and from the Diamond Princess

Let’s have a good look at this. Preliminary remark: Korea started a massive testing (according to Table 1 in the same report, nearly 300,000 people have been tested, at a current rate of 10,000 a day) and tracking program early, leveraging all available tech data — privacy concerns be darned.

Observation 1: overall mortality is 1 (one) percent. Still one percent too much, to be sure. But considerably lower than what has been reported from some other places — I suspect because of undertesting.

Observation 2: mortality in the 0-29 age bracket is nil — not one death out of 2,867 patients.

Observation 3: in the 30-49 age bracket, just two (2) deaths out of 2,044 patients, or about 0.1%. Only above 50 does mortality start rising, over 60 in a worrisome fashion. (Not coincidentally, so do comorbidities/pre-existing conditions. I would love to see the statistics broken down between otherwise healthy people and those with chronic cardiovascular/pulmonary/immunity/diabetes problems, or cancer patients. Hypertension is apparently another major risk factor.)

Observation 4: Note the interesting “gender gap”. Men (1.39%) have nearly twice the mortality of women (0.75%). I asked friends on Facebook familiar with South Korea, and they told me over half of men smoke, compared to fewer than five percent of women.

And then there is the uncertainty factor of how many people are asymptomatic virus carriers. This is impossible to ascertain without a much more massive testing program (and this isn’t a test you can quickly do with a strip!), but I have seen estimates from 5-7 carriers for each overt disease case.

But the Diamond Princess cruise ship offers an interesting insight. It had nearly 4,000 people on board—many of them in risk groups. (Somebody who used to perform aboard cruise ships quipped that passengers are mostly “the newlywed and the nearly dead” ;)) You’d expect these packed together on a ship in quarantine to be all infecting each others. And yet… 4,061 passengers and crew were examined, on board what effectively became an unintentional virus incubator. Only 712 contracted the virus (about 17.5%), of which 334 asymptomatic (8.2% of the total), leaving 378 (9.3% of the total) ill. Only 7 people died (1.85% of those ill, or 0.17% of all passengers and crew examined), all of them age 70 or older. (Remember, the passenger population is skewed toward the elderly.)

One might treat Diamond Princess stats as an upper limit (since spreading in even dense urban areas will never be as efficient as on a cruise ship) and South Korea as what can be achieved with agile and efficient tracking and containment measures.
 
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This is d*mn near criminal. :mad: These mega-church <strike>pastors</strike> thieves make my blood boil. Local pastors are more concerned with well being, and this con-artist is making sure he still gets his paycheck.


I'd rhetorically ask how he can sleep at night, but I know the answer: comfortably. Very, very comfortably.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is Herbert Hoover reborn. We’re in deep trouble. <a href="https://t.co/60RlHFRtXr">https://t.co/60RlHFRtXr</a></p>— Peter A. Shulman 📚 (@pashulman) <a href="https://twitter.com/pashulman/status/1240679043659370498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

This is d*mn near criminal. :mad: These mega-church <strike>pastors</strike> thieves make my blood boil. Local pastors are more concerned with well being, and this con-artist is making sure he still gets his paycheck.


I'd rhetorically ask how he can sleep at night, but I know the answer: comfortably. Very, very comfortably.

Our church went virtual two weeks ago. They've been very clear that we should be following Minnesota Dept of Public Health recommendations. They were very on top of things.
 
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This man is criminal

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">11:47: *TRUMP SAYS FDA HAS APPROVED CHLOROQUINE FOR USE IN COVID-19<br><br>11:48: *TRUMP SAYS STILL COLLECTING EVIDENCE OF CHLOROQUINE EFFICACY<br><br>11:48: *TRUMP SAYS CHLOROQUINE RISKS LOW AND ARE WELL-KNOWN<br><br>12:12: *FDA SAYS IT HAS NOT APPROVED CHLOROQUINE FOR COVID-19 USE</p>— Emma Kinery (@EmmaKinery) <a href="https://twitter.com/EmmaKinery/status/1240676267063640064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Rage doesn’t even begin to describe

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good point. <br><br>Someone *should* have created an intelligence group whose purpose was to monitor global health crises so we'd be ready for them.<br><br>Specifically, Obama should have created a pandemic unit. <br><br>In the National Security Council. <br><br>In 2014.<br><br>But too bad he didn't, right? <a href="https://t.co/nCEMTUthr3">https://t.co/nCEMTUthr3</a></p>— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1240677077889794051?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is Herbert Hoover reborn. We’re in deep trouble. <a href="https://t.co/60RlHFRtXr">https://t.co/60RlHFRtXr</a></p>— Peter A. Shulman 📚 (@pashulman) <a href="https://twitter.com/pashulman/status/1240679043659370498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He actually said, it's not the federal government's job to be buying up a lot of this equipment and making sure it gets distributed.

That's EXACTLY the federal government's ****ing job.
 
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