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OldDave...

Yes I am aware of the disclaimer. They wouldn't be covering the rear ends very well if they didn't have that now would they? Your are aware that companies like Pfizer and Moderna have idemnity from the severe side affects, including death, caused by the experimental MRNA shot, right? You also can't sue the FDA.

Heck of a gig if you can get it especially if you are the companies bringing a product to market very very quickly. So yes, it is still experimental and any who have gotten the shot are part of the experiment.

BTW, this is a thread on Coronavirus so I think the discussion is appropriate. However I do agree with ARM that it would be nice to focus on normal things where virus related stuff doesn't become the headlines.
 
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Of the teams that did not play games last year... were they still on campus and practicing as a team? The teams were 6 Ivies plus Union and RPI, plus several NEWHA teams that I’d have to look up the names of.

I am so curious how this will play out, especially seeing the poll that came out today. Are we looking at a weaker than usual ECAC? SLU lost a good one to centralization, potentially rusty Ivies (also missing some players).
 
Lindsay said:
Of the teams that did not play games last year... were they still on campus and practicing as a team? The teams were 6 Ivies plus Union and RPI, plus several NEWHA teams that I’d have to look up the names of.

I am so curious how this will play out, especially seeing the poll that came out today. Are we looking at a weaker than usual ECAC? SLU lost a good one to centralization, potentially rusty Ivies (also missing some players).
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SLU lost 2 to centralization. Segedi is centralized for China. Princeton lost Fillier to centralization. Those two teams will definitely be weaker as a result.
 
Rightnut said:
SLU lost 2 to centralization. Segedi is centralized for China. Princeton lost Fillier to centralization. Those two teams will definitely be weaker as a result.
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Oh wow didn’t realize SLU lost 2. Princeton weaker... Cornell probably weaker than what they were in 19/20 considering the only way to go from #1 is down. If RPI and Union weren’t even practicing last year.....Clarkson lost Giguere and more. Can’t wait to see the pre season polls for this conference. Dartmouth and Brown may have that new coach boost, but if I recall Yale was also on the rise in 19/20. Fun fun. Looks good for the Raiders!
 
So the wWCHA's policy is if a game or series can't be played due to c19, then the games will be cancelled and declared a no contest. That could have a huge impact on determining the regular season champ. I assume it applies to the end of season tourney, but if #8 can't play, will they pass the #1 onto the next round though they did not win their series? What if the #1 can't play, does the #8 move on?
 
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So the wWCHA's policy is if a game or series can't be played due to c19, then the games will be cancelled and declared a no contest. That could have a huge impact on determining the regular season champ. I assume it applies to the end of season tourney, but if #8 can't play, will they pass the #1 onto the next round though they did not win their series? What if the #1 can't play, does the #8 move on?
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What is the criteria for declaring that a game or series can't be played due to Covid? Is it one player testing positive? That could easily happen even though she has no or minimal symptoms. Is is a certain number of players?
 
It happened in the men's hockey tourney last spring, and it was basically the same as forfeit. Impacted team is out; the other team advances. I imagine that if it happens to two teams scheduled to meet, then "Bye" would advance to the next round. If it happens to two teams scheduled to meet in the final ... yeah, not a very satisfying outcome. It would be like a return to 2020 and how fun that tournament was (not).
 
The People's Republic Of Dane County has their mask mandate set to expire on the 27th. I had read they didn't plan on extending it, but cases in WI hit an all time record the other day, though hospitalizations are at 50% of the the peak last November, so the vaccine is having a positive effect of keeping people out of the hospital but it's not wiping covid out like other vaccines wipe out their targets. Logically they should not let it expire. The 7 day average on 10/28 was 86, right now it's at 155. The Delta peak 7 day average was 203 on 9/23, and the low was June 19th, a 7 day average of 8.

Covid has really changed my wife and my behaviors. We still keep a low profile, avoid peak shopping times when possible, avoid large groups (other than hockey games), shop online and we don't eat in restaurants much at all, less than before anyway. We both are still concerned about the long term effects of the vaccine on us, we'll just see Watts happens.
 
Timothy A said:
... cases in WI hit an all time record the other day, though hospitalizations are at 50% of the the peak last November, so the vaccine is having a positive effect of keeping people out of the hospital ...
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You're lucky. In Minnesota, many areas are out of ICU beds, although much of that problem is staffing rather than physical space.

Little did we suspect that this thing could impact our lives to this extent when we first heard of it. Beyond the health impact, all of the supply chain problems that have resulted, etc.
 
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You're lucky. In Minnesota, many areas are out of ICU beds, although much of that problem is staffing rather than physical space.

Little did we suspect that this thing could impact our lives to this extent when we first heard of it. Beyond the health impact, all of the supply chain problems that have resulted, etc.
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Total number of COVID patients in hospital in Wisconsin today hit the highest number since Late Dec 2020. Dane County had been doing better - higher vaccination rates - but has had a jump in hospitalizations the last couple days. Areas in the north and west - bordering Minn - are at or near zero beds.

You can pick different parts of the state - but not individual counties - with the pulldown at the upper left, and the data on the page fills in for that area.

https://www.wha.org/COVID19Update
 
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ARM said:
You're lucky. In Minnesota, many areas are out of ICU beds, although much of that problem is staffing rather than physical space.

Little did we suspect that this thing could impact our lives to this extent when we first heard of it. Beyond the health impact, all of the supply chain problems that have resulted, etc.
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Don't even get me going on work orientated supply chain issues.....There is another problem that may or may not be related and that is cost of materials. Everyone is jacking their prices up, I'm talking 15-30 percent since September. And I get to pay more and wait a lot longer for product. At least customers have been understanding on both because everyone knows what is going on. And even if it's an internal snafoo that screws up a project, we just blame the supply chain and covid when really it was Bob who dropped the ball. LOL on that one.
 
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Don't even get me going on work orientated supply chain issues.....There is another problem that may or may not be related and that is cost of materials. Everyone is jacking their prices up, I'm talking 15-30 percent since September. And I get to pay more and wait a lot longer for product. At least customers have been understanding on both because everyone knows what is going on. And even if it's an internal snafoo that screws up a project, we just blame the supply chain and covid when really it was Bob who dropped the ball. LOL on that one.
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Bob from accounting?
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Bob from accounting?
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Yeah who else would screw up like that?

Dane County did indeed extend the mask mandate to 1/3/22 as they should have based on their principles. I was really looking forward to cheering against the rodents without a mask.

My wife and I spend last Thursday - Sunday AM in Appleton shopping and I was surprised at how many people were wearing masks, maybe 25% in Watts I would call a anti-mask city. That county is about 65% vaccinated, so 25% masked is probably too low a number. We made the mistake of going to Scheels right after lunch Saturday, talk about a super spreader set-up. Hobby Lobby Friday afternoon was also crazy busy. We had pizza delivered to the hotel Friday night to avoid the crowds and Saturday we ate supper early at a sleeper good restaurant.
 
Saw on the ABC evening news today (and as reported on the RPI thread earlier) that a breakout of COVID19 including the Omicron variant on the Cornell campus has led the school to send the kids home, suspend athletics and conduct final exams on line. Will be interesting to see how this will effect whether students will be allowed back on campus in January and their winter sports programs going forward.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...hut-down-covid
 
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On a positive note, Pfizer has a pill that will probably be approved by 1/1 that will greatly reduce the impact of the bug on the body if you take it with a certain timeframe of having symptoms. That is the game changer we've been needing since the "vaccine" we've taken is not terribly effective (when compared to other 100% effective vaccines like measles, polio and the like.) The end is near.
 
The vaccine is excellent! The folks dying and being hospitalized due to Covid are overwhelmingly not vaccinated.

if the pill works to help people sick with Covid, sounds like a good thing. I hope the end of it is near, I have no idea.
 
And hence the reason both Middlebury and Cornell need to be called out - the vax is preventing deaths, the new variants, even if more virulent, and not as deadly, especially to college-aged adults. The mental-health harm done by closing campus and athletic events (for the athletes), the water-downed education given "on-line, along with, to be frank, ripping off the parents and students by not giving them a full college experience yet charging full college costs, is quite disgusting in my opinion. I really hope that the next institution that has the outbreak (and they all will) will simply state - 'we are all vaxed and will 'monitor' the infected but not shutdown'. Somebody in a leadership position in higher education has to do the right thing here.
 
Cornholio said:
I really hope that the next institution that has the outbreak (and they all will) will simply state - 'we are all vaxed and will 'monitor' the infected but not shutdown'.
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Yes.

And the omricon version is less severe but more spready than the others, so Watts the big deal? Get the shot and don't worry.
 
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