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Re: Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...
When the help mouths off you have to put them in their place.
When the help mouths off you have to put them in their place.
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Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...
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Yeah methinks Mike Freeman isnt going to be making any statements...or well doing much of anything official for a while. He will probably become very efficient though at getting people coffee
Yeah methinks Mike Freeman isnt going to be making any statements...or well doing much of anything official for a while. He will probably become very efficient though at getting people coffee
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God, the last thing we need to see is a bunch of Kent States repeated all over the country. One or two of those and the resulting violence will be horrific.
God, the last thing we need to see is a bunch of Kent States repeated all over the country. One or two of those and the resulting violence will be horrific.
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We have two ways to go from here. Which is more likely with what the President is saying today?
We have two ways to go from here. Which is more likely with what the President is saying today?
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Oh boy. Kroll has spoken and says officers shouldn’t have been fired yet
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesot...ter-he-sends-letter-about-george-floyd-unrest
Buckle up, Minneapolis
Oh boy. Kroll has spoken and says officers shouldn’t have been fired yet
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesot...ter-he-sends-letter-about-george-floyd-unrest
Buckle up, Minneapolis
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It depends on if he says it in public. Even republican governors though are not likely to declare war on protesters any more than we've already seen.
It depends on if he says it in public. Even republican governors though are not likely to declare war on protesters any more than we've already seen.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A disgrace to the badge! This is the battle that myself and others have been fighting against. Bob Kroll turn in your badge! <a href="https://t.co/SQmeNIIU3v">pic.twitter.com/SQmeNIIU3v</a></p>— Janeé Harteau (@ChiefHarteau) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefHarteau/status/1267460683408564225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A disgrace to the badge! This is the battle that myself and others have been fighting against. Bob Kroll turn in your badge! <a href="https://t.co/SQmeNIIU3v">pic.twitter.com/SQmeNIIU3v</a></p>— Janeé Harteau (@ChiefHarteau) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefHarteau/status/1267460683408564225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
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We knew that was coming. I'm only surprised he waited 6 days.
We knew that was coming. I'm only surprised he waited 6 days.
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Strategic. If he would have said it 6 days ago it would have been lost in what followed. Now, maybe when we think once we get past a weekend things will calm down a bit he can fan the flames more to make sure they DON'T calm down. We've had some arguments on this forum back and forth about how much sympathy we should give to the rioters, and drawing lines between peaceful protest, civil disobedience and the more violent and destructive actions we've seen as the days turned into night. But make no mistake about it, the republicans WANT the unrest to continue. They want to see us at war with ourselves.
Strategic. If he would have said it 6 days ago it would have been lost in what followed. Now, maybe when we think once we get past a weekend things will calm down a bit he can fan the flames more to make sure they DON'T calm down. We've had some arguments on this forum back and forth about how much sympathy we should give to the rioters, and drawing lines between peaceful protest, civil disobedience and the more violent and destructive actions we've seen as the days turned into night. But make no mistake about it, the republicans WANT the unrest to continue. They want to see us at war with ourselves.
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He’s working with the MN republican senate lead. Sounds almost coup-like.
He’s working with the MN republican senate lead. Sounds almost coup-like.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
He's the only leader that will give him the time of day, so it makes sense.
rufus
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They are carrying hammers and walkie-talkies?
rufus
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Yep, he fits the radical Antifa description to a T
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Most of them are. But if you look at how things played out yesterday (or even the day before) it is vastly different than the second night. This despite a much higher and more aggressive police presence. (not to mention what happened with the tanker) That raises eyebrows. Yesterday and Saturday are much closer to how people figured this would play out...burning South Minneapolis is completely out of character for what was happening at the time.
The other major eyebrow raiser (for me...I am only speaking for me and I guess my GF who has dealt with way more of this crap over the years than I have) is how coordinated a lot of this is. She has been saying that since the fire at the 3rd precinct. (before the rumors really circulated) Riots are random, they are chaos...it is a bunch of people ****ed off lashing out. (I am simplifying obviously) Burning a liquor store, a cell phone store, a grocery store that makes total sense. (opportunism and well often stuff they need) Burning multiple car part stores...doesn't jive. If it was just the Autozone near the Lake Street Target then yeah that is them burning it down because they want that whole area to go up (even though that fire was started by the White Guy supposedly) but they burned down at least 3 of them...that isnt rage that is a tactic. The next day they burned down things like a local community barber shop that is run by a Black Man. That doesnt jive either. Break some windows yeah but burn it down? (Here Is The Interview Not likely...it appears more like they picked spots to burn around the city to maximize the time it would take for MFD to get places. That seems rather unrandom to me but it is definitely possible that it is just an unfortunate coincidence.
The fact that there is multiple incidents, confirmed by the police, of cars driving around with no plates and all sorts of weapons is another. As the head of the Minneapolis Department of Health and Safety (I believe this is how he described it) said yesterday there was a traffic stop where a guy tried to douse his car with gasoline when he was pulled over. Seems like a bit of an overreaction...
I heard an interview with a guy who spent the last 20 years working in intelligence (type of guy that probably is a source for Vice News) over the weekend and he talked about how groups have people everywhere, and they look for signs of unrest and send out the batsignal to get people here. Then they try and blend into the crowd and break stuff in the hopes of sparking others to do the same. He also didnt pretend it is all White Supremacists or Right Wing bad actors...plenty of radical Left groups pull the same maneuver. It is a highly efficient means of creating chaos with little risk to the group and it takes almost no resources.
As I said, since this isnt a Jack Ryan movie it is going to be impossible to prove, and of course I could be completely wrong I am not claiming to know anything for fact. It isnt like it is a bad thing if outsiders come here (plenty of peaceful protesters came from out of town as well from as far away as Tulsa) but it isnt like we are the only city seeing the exact same thing and talking about it openly. Watch the Police Chief video I posted last night from Houston. He tells the Black People he is speaking with they arent the problem, it is the White Guys with skateboards that are there to cause issue. Experts from other hot spots are saying the same thing. Now, that could be they are jumping on the bandwagon of our Mayors and the comments they walked back...but I doubt it.
tl;dr: I am not sure there is any real bulletpoints, it just doesn't pass the smell test to a lot of us.
Most of them are. But if you look at how things played out yesterday (or even the day before) it is vastly different than the second night. This despite a much higher and more aggressive police presence. (not to mention what happened with the tanker) That raises eyebrows. Yesterday and Saturday are much closer to how people figured this would play out...burning South Minneapolis is completely out of character for what was happening at the time.
The other major eyebrow raiser (for me...I am only speaking for me and I guess my GF who has dealt with way more of this crap over the years than I have) is how coordinated a lot of this is. She has been saying that since the fire at the 3rd precinct. (before the rumors really circulated) Riots are random, they are chaos...it is a bunch of people ****ed off lashing out. (I am simplifying obviously) Burning a liquor store, a cell phone store, a grocery store that makes total sense. (opportunism and well often stuff they need) Burning multiple car part stores...doesn't jive. If it was just the Autozone near the Lake Street Target then yeah that is them burning it down because they want that whole area to go up (even though that fire was started by the White Guy supposedly) but they burned down at least 3 of them...that isnt rage that is a tactic. The next day they burned down things like a local community barber shop that is run by a Black Man. That doesnt jive either. Break some windows yeah but burn it down? (Here Is The Interview Not likely...it appears more like they picked spots to burn around the city to maximize the time it would take for MFD to get places. That seems rather unrandom to me but it is definitely possible that it is just an unfortunate coincidence.
The fact that there is multiple incidents, confirmed by the police, of cars driving around with no plates and all sorts of weapons is another. As the head of the Minneapolis Department of Health and Safety (I believe this is how he described it) said yesterday there was a traffic stop where a guy tried to douse his car with gasoline when he was pulled over. Seems like a bit of an overreaction...
I heard an interview with a guy who spent the last 20 years working in intelligence (type of guy that probably is a source for Vice News) over the weekend and he talked about how groups have people everywhere, and they look for signs of unrest and send out the batsignal to get people here. Then they try and blend into the crowd and break stuff in the hopes of sparking others to do the same. He also didnt pretend it is all White Supremacists or Right Wing bad actors...plenty of radical Left groups pull the same maneuver. It is a highly efficient means of creating chaos with little risk to the group and it takes almost no resources.
As I said, since this isnt a Jack Ryan movie it is going to be impossible to prove, and of course I could be completely wrong I am not claiming to know anything for fact. It isnt like it is a bad thing if outsiders come here (plenty of peaceful protesters came from out of town as well from as far away as Tulsa) but it isnt like we are the only city seeing the exact same thing and talking about it openly. Watch the Police Chief video I posted last night from Houston. He tells the Black People he is speaking with they arent the problem, it is the White Guys with skateboards that are there to cause issue. Experts from other hot spots are saying the same thing. Now, that could be they are jumping on the bandwagon of our Mayors and the comments they walked back...but I doubt it.
tl;dr: I am not sure there is any real bulletpoints, it just doesn't pass the smell test to a lot of us.
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dumpy wants his own Tienanmen Square. Gotta put the workers back in their place, as he sees it.
Keeping people down makes more money for his kind. That's how China works.
And we know that dumpy sees the color of skin as the first factor in how much of a paycheck you get.
dumpy wants his own Tienanmen Square. Gotta put the workers back in their place, as he sees it.
Keeping people down makes more money for his kind. That's how China works.
And we know that dumpy sees the color of skin as the first factor in how much of a paycheck you get.
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I see he is trotting out his old "yeah but the dead black man had a violent history" trope (like he did with Jamir Rice) like that means he deserves to die.
It was fun to watch him and his racist cop friends walk out like crybabies cause the Lynx wore the BLM shirts.
Keep opening your trap you hick, racist piece of ****. The world has already been exposed to the idiocy of the MPD and the more you talk the more the spotlight shines on you. Methinks that is not what you want...cockroaches tend prefer the darkness.
I see he is trotting out his old "yeah but the dead black man had a violent history" trope (like he did with Jamir Rice) like that means he deserves to die.
It was fun to watch him and his racist cop friends walk out like crybabies cause the Lynx wore the BLM shirts. Keep opening your trap you hick, racist piece of ****. The world has already been exposed to the idiocy of the MPD and the more you talk the more the spotlight shines on you. Methinks that is not what you want...cockroaches tend prefer the darkness.
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Watched the Boston protests yesterday. The first part was great. A bunch of people marched from the heart of a non-white neighborhood to the state house peacefully. White and black and many brought their kids and had a sense of purpose about the evening - particularly that it should not turn violent.
That lasted until a little after nightfall. Then those people went home and anarchists and looters moved in. I thought the cops were remarkably restrained. They weren't dressed for deployment in Afghanistan and I didn't see any armored vehicles on the streets. They also weren't cracking heads or anything like that. Most importantly nobody got killed and the city didn't get lit on fire (a few trash cans and one abandoned police car is all I could see).
These people causing trouble didn't appear to give a fuk about George Lloyd. The people throwing bottles at the cops were by and large young and white (males and females) and oddly enough I saw quite a few skateboards strapped to their backs.
The looters were for the most part black. People were driving up in cars to fill them up whenever a store would get broken into and they all looked like they had Mass plates. I'm not sure why the police allowed cars to drive around downtown in the midst of all this which seemed like a mistake. Eventually the national guard showed up not to bust skulls but to hold a certain area while the Boston Police fanned out and chased down looters.
Watched the Boston protests yesterday. The first part was great. A bunch of people marched from the heart of a non-white neighborhood to the state house peacefully. White and black and many brought their kids and had a sense of purpose about the evening - particularly that it should not turn violent.
That lasted until a little after nightfall. Then those people went home and anarchists and looters moved in. I thought the cops were remarkably restrained. They weren't dressed for deployment in Afghanistan and I didn't see any armored vehicles on the streets. They also weren't cracking heads or anything like that. Most importantly nobody got killed and the city didn't get lit on fire (a few trash cans and one abandoned police car is all I could see).
These people causing trouble didn't appear to give a fuk about George Lloyd. The people throwing bottles at the cops were by and large young and white (males and females) and oddly enough I saw quite a few skateboards strapped to their backs.
The looters were for the most part black. People were driving up in cars to fill them up whenever a store would get broken into and they all looked like they had Mass plates. I'm not sure why the police allowed cars to drive around downtown in the midst of all this which seemed like a mistake. Eventually the national guard showed up not to bust skulls but to hold a certain area while the Boston Police fanned out and chased down looters.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
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Walz calling social media trolls and bots stupid. Well, duh.
Walz calling social media trolls and bots stupid. Well, duh.
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