Cops 8: I Am Out Of Here...

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This. More of this. <a href="https://t.co/yAE03RsoeK">https://t.co/yAE03RsoeK</a></p>— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) <a href="https://twitter.com/richardmarx/status/1267302652691410945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Handyman]

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BTW for those of you who would like some info on Bob Kroll:

The Man, The Myth, The Legend

Through a series of controversies over the years, Kroll has been a staunch defender of the police. In 2015, after two white officers shot 24-year-old Jamar Clark in the head, Kroll spoke on television about Clark’s “violent” criminal history; later, when the officers were cleared of wrongdoing, he referred to Black Lives Matter as a “terrorist organization,” according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

In 2007, Kroll also referred to former US Rep. Keith Ellison, who is Muslim and Black and has pushed for criminal justice reforms, as a terrorist, according to a lawsuit filed by now–Police Chief Medaria Arradondo alleging racism within the police department.

Kroll joined the Minneapolis police department back in 1989. According to a Star Tribune investigation, he has been the subject of at least 20 internal-affairs complaints during his three decades there, though all but three were closed without discipline. As a young officer in 1994, he was suspended for five days for excessive force, according to a report by City Pages, but that decision was later reversed by the police chief. The next year, he fought a lawsuit that accused him of “beating, choking and kicking” a biracial 15-year-old boy while saying racial slurs, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported, but a federal jury cleared him of wrongdoing. In 2003, the department demoted him for three months for “code of ethics” violations.

One of the most egregious allegations took place in 2004, while Kroll was off-duty. Kroll and another officer were accused of beating a man whose backpack bumped against their car while walking out of a bar on a Friday night; when the man’s friends came to help, the officers allegedly punched and kicked them. The Civilian Review Authority, a board that investigates complaints against Minneapolis police officers, sustained the complaint against Kroll. He was suspended for 20 days. “How can he even still be on the force with behavior like this?” the assaulted man’s father told City Pages. Kroll denied wrongdoing and said the man’s friends attacked them.

Yes the article is from Mother Jones so it is obviously not unbiased. I used it because it discusses things from multiple other papers so it works in that capacity.

 

[WeAreNDHockey]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“A high-ranking official at the NYPD, the New York Police Department, has told me that one of every seven arrested in the last two days has not been from New York City,” says CNN’s <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChrisCuomo</a> of protests in New York following the death of George Floyd. <a href="https://t.co/nwYAHQR5T6">https://t.co/nwYAHQR5T6</a> <a href="https://t.co/MSc7xe9EWs">pic.twitter.com/MSc7xe9EWs</a></p>— CNN (@CNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1267307395551813633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This theme that has developed about the protesters being from somewhere else other than the city they are protesting in has become a tiresome side-story in all of this.

Almost all of the cities have had one official or another say it, and I say who cares? If you protest peacefully I am happy to welcome you from somewhere else. If you torch my car, I don't care where you are from, I am going to be equally ticked off regardless. Initially, when the unrest was centered in Minneapolis and the Twin Cities, I think high ranking officials there lied in hopes of deflecting whatever blame they could, because that's what politicians do. It is someone else's fault because they could not control THEIR bad guys. Unfortunately the unrest spilled to every corner of the country and that story becomes even more ridiculous when mayors or police officials all claim it.

This isn't like some 3-team trade where I give Kep a shortstop, he gives Handy a left handed set-up guy and Handy gives me a couple of batting practice fungo bats and a 3rd round draft pick. And what does it even mean? So 1 in 7 arrested there are not from NYC. Are they from Yonkers? Are they from somewhere out on The Island? Are they from New Mexico? There are hundreds of communities they could be from around NYC. I suppose that makes the story true, but it is shading the truth more than is necessary, and that can't detract from any of the real issues.

If you joined these protests just to commit needless violence and destruction, who cares where you call home? And if you traveled to take part in a peaceful demonstration good for you.

 

[Kepler]

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I leave you with this for the night.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Incendiary materials and accelerants (like water bottles filled with gasoline) have been found hidden in bushes and throughout neighborhoods in Minneapolis. If you find or see anything like this, please call 911. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MACCMN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MACCMN</a></p>— Minneapolis Police (@MinneapolisPD) <a href="https://twitter.com/MinneapolisPD/status/1267306513594494977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A sheriff in Flint, Michigan, asked a crowd of demonstrators what he and other officers needed to do. The crowd chanted: “Walk with us." And so he did. <a href="https://t.co/27HNz3VnA1">https://t.co/27HNz3VnA1</a></p>— The New York Times (@nytimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1267298583021314049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Incendiary materials and accelerants (like water bottles filled with gasoline) have been found hidden in bushes and throughout neighborhoods in Minneapolis. If you find or see anything like this, please call 911. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MACCMN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MACCMN</a></p>— Minneapolis Police (@MinneapolisPD) <a href="https://twitter.com/MinneapolisPD/status/1267306513594494977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Slap Shot]

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If you torch my car, I don't care where you are from, I am going to be equally ticked off regardless.

If you joined these protests just to commit needless violence and destruction, who cares where you call home? And if you traveled to take part in a peaceful demonstration good for you.

Odd that you claim it matters if you traveled to partake peacefully but it doesn't matter if you traveled to participate violently. You can't pick and choose and be taken seriously.

If people are being funded to travel to break s**t up that does matter. It should be investigated and prosecuted and as long as the instigators continue unimpeded what is going to stop them?

Yes we know there was some hyperbole behind some of the tweets regarding external participation, but does anyone really doubt there was an underground movement started by white fascists to stir things up as much as possible?

 

[Slap Shot]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Incendiary materials and accelerants (like water bottles filled with gasoline) have been found hidden in bushes and throughout neighborhoods in Minneapolis. If you find or see anything like this, please call 911. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MACCMN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MACCMN</a></p>— Minneapolis Police (@MinneapolisPD) <a href="https://twitter.com/MinneapolisPD/status/1267306513594494977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What was the general consensus with events Saturday night? More of the same, things got worse, progress was made...?

 

[Handyman]

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Odd that you claim it matters if you traveled to partake peacefully but it doesn't matter if you traveled to participate violently. You can't pick and choose and be taken seriously.

If people are being funded to travel to break s**t up that does matter. It should be investigated and prosecuted and as long as the instigators continue unimpeded what is going to stop them?

Yes we know there was some hyperbole behind some of the tweets regarding external participation, but does anyone really doubt there was an underground movement started by white fascists to stir things up as much as possible?

I dont doubt it...but it is almost impossible to prove. But there is way too many weird factors at play to make me think otherwise.

As for tonight...outside of the aftermath of the truck incident everything went pretty well. (relatively speaking)

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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I don't remember if anyone posted Killer Mike's statement, but if not here it is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Listen to <a href="https://twitter.com/KillerMike?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KillerMike</a> <a href="https://t.co/NuFwCo2ORs">pic.twitter.com/NuFwCo2ORs</a></p>— RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE (@RATM) <a href="https://twitter.com/RATM/status/1266684395659972608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[aparch]

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Killer Mike is 100% right. And it needs to be said again and again.


Here's a little lightheartedness from 79th street (THE weirdest street in the whole city) in Chicago from 1:30 this morning:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">79/Langley: LaToya says she left her 2018 Chevy Cruze running while going to the store and... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/YouAlreadyKnow?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#YouAlreadyKnow</a> <br><br>"The stores are closed!" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/****CPDSays?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#****CPDSays</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chicago?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chicago</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChicagoScanner?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChicagoScanner</a></p>— Spot News (@SPOTNEWSonIG) <a href="https://twitter.com/SPOTNEWSonIG/status/1267341176765628417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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Is it true DC went full blackout, including cell jammers? A lot of people posting about it, but I haven’t seen anything official.

But people are posting pictures of apps like snapchat and instagram having no activity in the city.

 

[Kepler]

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I see no confirmation. Dr. Mrs. is going to a doctor's appt right now on K Street (I guess they have people other than lobbyists there...) so we'll know soon enough.

 

[Drew S.]

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It really is unbelievable just how bad of job the police did in Boston last night. I heard from a very good source first hand that everything was fine until they started attacking peaceful protesters with gas. Then they shut down a bunch of the subway stations so people couldn't get home. The thing that really gets me is they had no officers posted in the popular shopping areas and tons of high end stores got looted. How can you screw up that much?

 

[geezer]

I dont doubt it...but it is almost impossible to prove. But there is way too many weird factors at play to make me think otherwise.

I haven’t been following very closely (there are reasons I live in the yoop and don’t have a TV). Can you give us the top few bullet points of what indicates this is NOT a bunch of frustrated and restless individuals acting on their own?

 

[Kepler]

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Just another night with the boys in blue.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Police in Washington DC tackled the BBC cameraman - I don’t want to hear a single person say police brutality is not real, the cameraman was obviously not acting violently or even in partaking in the protest and yet was still attacked. This is undeniable abuse of power. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/blm?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#blm</a> <a href="https://t.co/PYfkYVOFeM">pic.twitter.com/PYfkYVOFeM</a></p>— jess (@scrimshaw_jess) <a href="https://twitter.com/scrimshaw_jess/status/1267371127980072961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[alfablue]

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Just another night with the boys in blue.

It's interesting to me to note that the places where the police joined or talked to the protesters, there was peace.

Violence incites more violence, peace incites more peace.

It's not hard to figure that out. One small step of empathy is all it takes. Even if it's just to avoid violence.

 

[geezer]

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So Trump turned off the WH lights and retreated to a “secure bunker” overnight... this whole situation could get interesting re: presidential legitimacy if people are angry enough