Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

[Jimjamesak]

Privileged white lib: "Yeah man, eat the rich!"

*poor minorities descend on his inner city loft*

Privileged white lib: "No, I didn't mean it like that!"

Pretty much.

 

[Handyman]

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I didn't think they were.

We only differ on the degree of which we condemn the rioting/looting, so I'll just leave it alone.

We are good man I wasnt arguing with you just posting my thought process. There is no right opinion in cases like this...everything is just a degree of wrongness.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

I’ll be the a— hole here: The whole point is to make you feel uncomfortable and unsafe, because that’s how they feel every day. Real change doesn’t happen until folks like you feel uncomfortable.

Yes but if you are making the people who support you (and endeavor to not make you uncomfortable) uncomfortable and unsafe you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It is like when BLM protests at a Bernie Sanders rally...I understand their motive and support their right to do it but they are doing way more harm to their cause than good.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Yes but if you are making the people who support you (and endeavor to not make you uncomfortable) uncomfortable and unsafe you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It is like when BLM protests at a Bernie Sanders rally...I understand their motive and support their right to do it but they are doing way more harm to their cause than good.

Washington County is the bluest, most diverse district outside of Omar's.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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I’ll be the a— hole here: The whole point is to make you feel uncomfortable and unsafe, because that’s how they feel every day. Real change doesn’t happen until folks like you feel uncomfortable.

Ok, let them riot in your neighborhood next...

 

[Jimjamesak]

Yes but if you are making the people who support you (and endeavor to not make you uncomfortable) uncomfortable and unsafe you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It is like when BLM protests at a Bernie Sanders rally...I understand their motive and support their right to do it but they are doing way more harm to their cause than good.

Except most of them don’t see people like you as supporters, just folks mostly paying lip service to make themselves feel better.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Ok, let them riot in your neighborhood next...

Would be an improvement for mine.

 

[Handyman]

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Privileged white lib: "Yeah man, eat the rich!"

*poor minorities descend on his inner city loft*

Privileged white lib: "No, I didn't mean it like that!"

Those PWL are definitely out in full force now...Whitesplaining the issues as best they can. They are the worst.

And FWIW I am not trying to say that businesses in those areas or their owners are more important than the injustice that has been around forever. I am saying you get your message across better if you attack those who are the problem. (I dont mean physically cause doing so to a cop will get you killed) I want the protests to have the desired effect, which usually means keeping collateral damage to a minimum. Right now this ****show looks like every Apocalyptic Nightmare Trumpers spread.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Those PWL are definitely out in full force now...Whitesplaining the issues as best they can. They are the worst.

And FWIW I am not trying to say that businesses in those areas or their owners are more important than the injustice that has been around forever. I am saying you get your message across better if you attack those who are the problem. (I dont mean physically cause doing so to a cop will get you killed) I want the protests to have the desired effect, which usually means keeping collateral damage to a minimum. Right now this ****show looks like every Apocalyptic Nightmare Trumpers spread.

Even the rich in Minneapolis are liberal- they elect super liberal city council and pass super progressive laws. Tearing mpls apart isn’t really reaching the people they might think

 

[Kepler]

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Reviewing the Unicorn Riot footage from 2 am.

Minority-owned businesses: windows untouched.

Corporate chains: in flames.

 

[Kepler]

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Ok, let them riot in your neighborhood next...

"Them"?

Part of a riot is it's the response of the populace at large against the powers that subjugate them.

Unless you're one of the folks who likes the way things are, this "them" is us, or at least on behalf of us.

We all own the riot.

 

[Handyman]

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Except most of them don’t see people like you as supporters, just folks mostly paying lip service to make themselves feel better.

I am not talking about me or even people like me. Put it this way...do you think the Ethiopian Restaurant on University Avenue is part of the group paying lip service to make themselves feel better?

You can make that argument for Uptown...but the 2800 block of Lake and the Midway area are not filled with White Privilege. There is some (Powderhorn is trying to Gentrify) but again if that is their goal they are in the wrong neighborhoods.

 

[burd]

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I’ll be the a— hole here: The whole point is to make you feel uncomfortable and unsafe, because that’s how they feel every day. Real change doesn’t happen until folks like you feel uncomfortable.

It is one thing to acknowledge the fact or truth of racial or other social injustice, but maybe we don't tend to really understand it until we've suffered significant harm as an innocent victim ourselves. Maybe some things just need to be learned experientially, especially if it requires us to rethink who we are.

 

[Kepler]

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The point of a riot is to bring the pain that the oppressed live with 24/7 into our comfortable lives because when it was only an intellectual construct we did nothing.

Being black in America is awful, so for a microsecond some people have decided to make being white in a few square blocks of America awful. I surely wouldn't be doing poverty-tourism there right now. Why on earth would these rioters not turn on me, too? Cops color-code their enemies unfairly; why wouldn't teenage Poors do the same?

At least the Poors aren't doing it with state sanction.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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"Them"?

Part of a riot is it's the response of the populace at large against the powers that subjugate them.

Unless you're one of the folks who likes the way things are, this "them" is us, or at least on behalf of us.

We all own the riot.

You aren't anywhere near the "us" you're describing.

 

[Handyman]

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"Them"?

Part of a riot is it's the response of the populace at large against the powers that subjugate them.

Unless you're one of the folks who likes the way things are, this "them" is us, or at least on behalf of us.

We all own the riot.

How did Wendy's subjugate them?

 

[Jimjamesak]

I am not talking about me or even people like me. Put it this way...do you think the Ethiopian Restaurant on University Avenue is part of the group paying lip service to make themselves feel better?

You can make that argument for Uptown...but the 2800 block of Lake and the Midway area are not filled with White Privilege. There is some (Powderhorn is trying to Gentrify) but again if that is their goal they are in the wrong neighborhoods.

In that sense I can understand, I was speaking more about folks like you or dx.

 

[Jimjamesak]

You aren't anywhere near the "us" you're describing.

This we can agree on!

 

[Jimjamesak]

How did Wendy's subjugate them?

Low wages would be a good start.

 

[Handyman]

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The point of a riot is to bring the pain that the oppressed live with 24/7 into our comfortable lives because when it was only an intellectual construct we did nothing.

And how is that happening here? It literally isnt.

The people they are trying to bring the pain to live nowhere near any of those places. All they are doing is making life more painful for the people who live there with them.

This isnt Rage Against the Machine...this isnt Public Enemy...this a poser cover band. If you want to fight the power go for it...but do it where the power resides.

Part of the problem is though that Minneapolis acted correctly (and much faster than expected) so now instead of lashing out TPTB they have no singular force to go after.