Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

[Kepler]

Re: Cops 7: What Could Go Wrong?

I love the diversity of opinions that this guy on Unicorn is getting. People are all over the map on the violence. This is what you get when you listen to actual humans, not pundits from the sliver of opinions permitted by corporate advertisers.

 

[Kepler]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Friend just sent me this: The view of Minneapolis from across the bridge in Hudson, WI.<br><br>40 miles away.<br><br>Insane. <a href="https://t.co/TBoqV8yUx0">pic.twitter.com/TBoqV8yUx0</a></p>— Alec Kinsky (@AlecKinsky) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlecKinsky/status/1266201573044228098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TBH you get that from Vegas 100 miles away.

 

[The Rube]

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I love the diversity of opinions that this guy on Unicorn is getting. People are all over the map on the violence. This is what you get when you listen to actual humans, not pundits from the tiny wedge of opinions permitted by corporate advertisers.

I am holding my tongue on some of the host's commentary, but it is interesting to hear the participant's varied points of views.

And Hudson/Twin Cities doesn't have 100 miles of flat desert in between. Now, the eastern/western borders of North Dakota, however....

 

[Kepler]

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I am holding my tongue on some of the host's commentary, but it is interesting to hear the participant's varied points of views.

And Hudson/Twin Cities doesn't have 100 miles of flat desert in between. Now, the eastern/western borders of North Dakota, however....

I thought their one tree would get in the way?

 

[Kepler]

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"Y'all wanna live comfortably? F-ck you."

And that's the point, in one sentence. If you ignore the brutalization of people long enough, they will come after you. And yes, that's scary and unjust, and you've now felt for an instant what they've felt their whole lives.

With that feeling comes either the empathy or the fear required to get people off their as-ses and finally change things.

And that is why violence, horribly, works.

 

[Handyman]

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Look around...most of the people there live just fine. I see almost as many black people as I do at a Wild Game

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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5th precinct now being abandoned??

 

[Kepler]

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I wonder if a tobacco store on fire smells really good or really bad.

 

[The Rube]

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"Y'all wanna live comfortably? F-ck you."

And that's the point, in one sentence. If you ignore the brutalization of people long enough, they will come after you. And yes, that's scary and unjust, and you've now felt for an instant what they've felt their whole lives.

With that feeling comes either the empathy or the fear required to get people off their as-ses and finally change things.

And that is why violence, horribly, works.

So, let's burn a store down and steal tvs and liquor for...justice? Or something? Right? I understand the police station. I don't agree with it, but at least I get it.

Edit: Kep: as a smoker, and enjoy the occasional cigar, that's a good question. Now I'll be thinking about that for the next day or two.

 

[Kepler]

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I am holding my tongue on some of the host's commentary, but it is interesting to hear the participant's varied points of views.

And Hudson/Twin Cities doesn't have 100 miles of flat desert in between. Now, the eastern/western borders of North Dakota, however....

I don't even agree with all of the host's commentary, and you know me. I like that he's just letting people talk, and anybody who comes up. This is the closest we have to real journalism.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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I want to go to bed but don’t think I can

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OH on scanner: 5 white males with 5 AR-15's left a Motel 6 in Roseville in a car with Texas plates, headed to one of the metro protest sites...</p>— TC Crime Watch (@TCCrimeWatch) <a href="https://twitter.com/TCCrimeWatch/status/1266227164086775808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[The Rube]

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I don't even agree with all of the host's commentary, and you know me. I like that he's just letting people talk, and anybody who comes up. This is the closest we have to real journalism.

The footage is raw. That's what I like. Major news can pick and choose, edit, etc. This is just some guy filming stuff.

 

[Kepler]

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So, let's burn a store down and steal tvs and liquor for...justice? Or something? Right? I understand the police station. I don't agree with it, but at least I get it.

Edit: Kep: as a smoker, and enjoy the occasional cigar, that's a good question. Now I'll be thinking about that for the next day or two.

The looting is looting: put stuff the Poors can't get next to the Poors and taunt them and the Poors will try to get it. You know how our whole economy is really just a mutual agreement of value and trust? Well, these Poors don't share that agreement - they think it's bullsh-t.

It's only a social contract if you sign it. Otherwise it's just a prison maintained by force.

And that screaming teenage girl has more eloquence than Rousseau or Locke ever did, and more truth.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Again, you're not understanding. Either we make society better or we drive people to do this.

It's not morality, it's hydrodynamics.

And you don’t seem to understand what it’s like having stores looted and communities coming apart at the seams a mile from your house, less than a mile from where your wife has to work and drive home through.

You never answered MNS earlier how you’d feel if your daughter’s neighborhood was next. It’s all an academic game for you until it’s knocking at your door.

We get it, we’ve all failed to address the inequalities. But what you don’t seem to get through that thick academic skull is that a lot of us are trying to make things better. We might have time to protest this weekend for police oppression of minorities. Maybe we can pencil it in after the LGBTQ March next weekend or the protest to protect the environment next Tuesday or maybe between the boycotts of companies stomping down the unions. My god, our entire schedule is full. I should probably pencil in some time for food and sleep. Maybe that Soros check will come through because I’ll have to quit my job with this kind of schedule.

We donate time and money, we support causes through social media, we make sure to vote in politicians who can make a difference. We’re doing everything we can while still trying to make it through life ourselves.

 

[state of hockey]

Yeah, as bbdl pointed out they can't go much north of there before they run into some people who are less than sympathetic to their cause and armed.

Coon Rapids is probably about it.

 

[Handyman]

5th precinct now being abandoned??

That is where Liebo lives...

1st is rumored as well.

 

[The Rube]

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The looting is looting: put stuff the Poors can't get next to the Poors and taunt them and the Poors will try to get it. You know how our whole economy is really just a mutual agreement of value and trust? Well, these Poors don't share that agreement - they think it's bullsh-t.

It's only a social contract if you sign it. Otherwise it's just a prison maintained by force.

And that screaming teenage girl has more eloquence than Rousseau or Locke ever did, and more truth.

The one that said that people "allowed" them to do that? No. You have a choice. You could have protested peacefully. Instead, they burned down where they live. THEIR choice.

A BIG common thread of thought I've been seeing is don't just the protesters by the actions of a few. I wish I could say that the rioters had the same thought of others.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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I want to go to bed but don’t think I can

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OH on scanner: 5 white males with 5 AR-15's left a Motel 6 in Roseville in a car with Texas plates, headed to one of the metro protest sites...</p>— TC Crime Watch (@TCCrimeWatch) <a href="https://twitter.com/TCCrimeWatch/status/1266227164086775808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't see this going well...

 

[Kepler]

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And you don’t seem to understand what it’s like having stores looted and communities coming apart at the seams a mile from your house, less than a mile from where your wife has to work and drive home through.

You never answered MNS earlier how you’d feel if your daughter’s neighborhood was next.

Not deliberately, I didn't see it.

First of all, the instant this stuff started I'd have told my daughter to leave. This is not a place anybody needs to be right now. What would you tell somebody if a forest fire was bearing down on their house? Stay on principle?

And if she couldn't leave I'd be on a flight to go physically remove her; she can complain to me about her agency later.

But none of that has anything to do with the situation, it has to do with the personal, and that's not truth or goodness, it's way more important. You keep confusing what you want with what is right and seem to need to claim what you want is what is right. Well, it isn't -- what you want is what you want and that's enough. So if you want to go shoot rioters to protect your family then you go do that. Be comfortable with what you want; just don't confuse that with ethics or good.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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I wonder if Jacob Frey will have a short tenure after this