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Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

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jerphisch said:
Society has absolutely not put us in a constant state of war, the right has. Those things you list are creations of the right, throw in the war on Christmas, war on Christians etc. If it was a societal problem you would hear about things like the war on healthcare, war on immigrants, war on progressive taxes, but you don't. Because it isn't a societal issue, it is a far right issue.
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https://newrepublic.com/article/129433/clintons-war-drugs-black-lives-didnt-matter
 
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cF[Authentic] said:
How does having more cops being shot fix the issue of them being constantly in fear of someone trying to kill them?
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Well if I wanted to just give the dick answer I'd say that at least if more of them were being killed I could understand their constant fear of someone trying to kill them. Screw it, I'm in a bad mood so I'll just let the dick answer speak for itself.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Well if I wanted to just give the dick answer I'd say that at least if more of them were being killed I could understand their constant fear of someone trying to kill them. Screw it, I'm in a bad mood so I'll just let the dick answer speak for itself.
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And here is part of why the problem isn't getting solved soon.
 
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Jesus.

In a speech Friday to law enforcement officers, President Donald Trump urged them to not be “too nice” to suspected criminals and gang members, and appeared to endorse certain types of abuse by police and immigration agents.

The address, in Brentwood, New York, was ostensibly meant to address the violence propagated by the MS13 gang. But, amid repeated raucous cheering and “thank yous” from the officers in attendance, Trump veered into several extended monologues on the value of being “tough.”

Toward the end of his remarks, the President gave a chilling example of what he meant.

“When you see these towns, and when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough,” he said, referring to the arrest of alleged gang members. “I said, please don’t be too nice.”

“When you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over,” he mimicked an officer putting a handcuffed person in the back of a squad car, the officer’s hand over the suspect’s head. “Like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody? Don’t hit their head?”

“I said, you can take the hand away, OK?” he concluded, to laughter, and then loud applause.
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Kepler said:
Jesus.
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Don't forget, the Fraternal Order of Police brotherhood was a huge backer of Trump in the election. As were lots of municipal police departments and lead sheriffs across the nation.

Trump represents them 100%. Accidentally forgetting to lower their head jamming them in the door of a cruiser and all...
 
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As I said in the POTUS thread, the cops he spoke to dont agree with him.
 
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SonofSouthie said:
Saw this on 20/20 last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vide...eared-encourage-permit-teen/story?id=48903893
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Despicable actions by the officers, although with no audio we don't know if their claim that he voluntarily drank the liquid is true or not.

As a journalist, that's a tough story to watch as the two main interviews are the lawyer for the family and someone who is openly against the Border Patrol. Regardless, nobody forced this 16 year old to drink the meth in the bottles.

The lawyer for the ACLU told the reporter the later case of a BPO who sexually assaulted two sisters was closed. However, a minute later the reporter says the BPO says the case actually wasn't closed. So who do we believe in that situation?

There need to be changes in the system and unfortunately, that's not going to happen on a wide scale basis.
 
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cF[Authentic] said:
Despicable actions by the officers, although with no audio we don't know if their claim that he voluntarily drank the liquid is true or not.

As a journalist, that's a tough story to watch as the two main interviews are the lawyer for the family and someone who is openly against the Border Patrol. Regardless, nobody forced this 16 year old to drink the meth in the bottles.
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Wow.
 
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Anyone else see the video of the Baltimore cops planting drugs in a car?

Just a few bad apples though. You know, all turning off their body cams, standing by while a colleague plants the drugs, and then conspiring against another innocent.

Just a few. Not a big problem.

ETA: this is the second time in about a month this has happened.

I think it's time to record 100% of their activities. No more allowing them to turn them off. Don't care if you have to use the bathroom. The rights of the people far outweigh their right to privacy until they can prove themselves trustworthy.

This isn't acceptable.
 
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Good god. You're right though, I'm not usually a fan of the whole "one bad apple ruins it for everyone" policies but when the police unions keep defending the bad apples that's kinda all you're left with in terms of options.
 
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Here is the thing...they KNOW they are being recorded and yet they do it anyways. How dumb are they?

Scarier question...if this is what they do when they are recorded imagine the crap they pull when no one is watching.

This is no longer just "a few bad apples" this is a flawed system that is starting to really show its cracks under the light of day.
 
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I'm not convinced recordings would help, except in cases where the accused is white. Many areas of the country still have this mentality that a black guy is "guilty until proven innocent".
 
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Handyman said:
Here is the thing...they KNOW they are being recorded and yet they do it anyways. How dumb are they?

Scarier question...if this is what they do when they are recorded imagine the crap they pull when no one is watching.

This is no longer just "a few bad apples" this is a flawed system that is starting to really show its cracks under the light of day.
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It's a combination. 1. They've always been like this, they're just getting caught now. 2. It's more than a few bad apples. 3. Culture of entitlement. They think they have to do this to do their job. 4. Lots of authoritarian personalities on the thin blue line. 5. Learned behavior from a culture where the cops are the Praetorian guard of the rich and everybody else is either the enemy or witless.
 
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