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Conspiracy Theory Du Jour

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ShirtlessBob said:
solo, I glanced at the tabloids today, and the Globe says the CIA had RFK killed.
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yeah, I haven't read a ton on it but can tell you David Talbot's book "Brothers" which I DID read delves into RFK's movements and discussions post 11-22-63. What he found was amazing:

- RFK and Jackie penned a letter to Kruschev that was sent about 8-9 days after Dallas...in the letter they told him reactionaries in U.S. intelligence murdered John
- RFK confided with just a handful of close family and aides that he was going to re-open the JFK case
- RFK was monitored by the CIA (by order of Richard Helms) everywhere he went from 11-22 forward to his last day. This included foreign trips and phone taps.
- RFK had begun to distrust Walter Sheridan (former NSA counterintelligence chief and "get Hoffa" squad member) when it came to Jim Garrison, in early 1968 RFK decided to get a back channel connection with Garrison's staff so he could keep apprised (this information was discovered by Joan Mellon)

insofar as evidence of CIA involvement in RFK's death - the coroner Thomas Noguchi stated RFK was killed by two gunshots to the back of the head at point blank range and that's based burn marks surrounding the head wounds showing how close the assassin from behind was. Sirhan hit him as well but that was from the front.


at least 3 witnesses saw a woman in a polka dot dress with a man running out of the ambassador hotel and the woman was giggling and was heard by all 3 to say "we shot him, we shot kennedy"

more than a dozen witnesses saw this same pair walk Sirhan into the pantry

in the Evidence of Revision dvd's (I've only seen excerpts) one can hear one of the witness interviews with police and it is ASTOUNDING

so yeah, I believe CIA was involved with RFK's murder, they knew he's reopen his brothers case
 
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Also, Lisa Pease has a book coming out this fall based on 25 years of research and interview's re RFK's murder, it's called A Lie Too Big To Fail.

Interview here with witness who took 15-20 pictures as the shots were fired. I had no idea until last week that this existed: https://t.co/S81MSZvkwG?amp=1m
 
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solovsfett said:
More than a little apropos: https://t.co/P5P97XRbjP?amp=1

We've seen this in the U.S. plenty of times, we just generally ignore it.
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We're obviously never going to have freedom of speech addressing the economic-political measures that could disadvantage the people who own our country. There will be a combination of self-censorship, market strong arm tactics, and outright harassment by LEO of anybody who mounts a credible challenge to a system where the few amass massive wealth while many die. And when none of that is enough, people disappear.

That's a given. The best we can do is keep pushing the boundaries of speech and action and at all times work to shrink the bloated carcass of the wealthy who suffocate American freedom and creativity. Up the middle class; eat the rich!
 
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Kepler said:
We're obviously never going to have freedom of speech addressing the economic-political measures that could disadvantage the people who own our country. There will be a combination of self-censorship, market strong arm tactics, and outright harassment by LEO of anybody who mounts a credible challenge to a system where the few amass massive wealth while many die. And when none of that is enough, people disappear.

That's a given. The best we can do is keep pushing the boundaries of speech and action and at all times work to shrink the bloated carcass of the wealthy who suffocate American freedom and creativity. Up the middle class; eat the rich!
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V.I. Lenin couldn't have said it better!
 
Kepler said:
We're obviously never going to have freedom of speech addressing the economic-political measures that could disadvantage the people who own our country. There will be a combination of self-censorship, market strong arm tactics, and outright harassment by LEO of anybody who mounts a credible challenge to a system where the few amass massive wealth while many die. And when none of that is enough, people disappear.

That's a given. The best we can do is keep pushing the boundaries of speech and action and at all times work to shrink the bloated carcass of the wealthy who suffocate American freedom and creativity. Up the middle class; eat the rich!
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Absolutely right. Until or unless we get another Dr. King or JFK who bucks the system...only next time, hopefully we all stand up with him or her and the 4th estate does their ****ing job!
 
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joecct said:
V.I. Lenin couldn't have said it better!
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No, Lenin wanted to do away with private property. I want private property to be protected pretty much absolutely, up to a threshold. That threshold is far, far higher than anything 99.999% of people will ever see.

But the idea that wealth has to be unlimited to run a market economy is a myth. It makes no more sense than saying there should be no speed limits. Or brakes.
 
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solovsfett said:
Absolutely right. Until or unless we get another Dr. King or JFK who bucks the system...only next time, hopefully we all stand up with him or her and the 4th estate does their ****ing job!
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Remember that at the end of the day we have the power to fix this country, completely legally. We do the work and more importantly we consume the goods. A strong consumer union and the strategic employment of consumer boycotts and strikes, backed up by voting, can rescue democracy from the plutes. We are the economy. The Nazis can't kill us without killing themselves. We only need to understand that we have the only power that matters now: the power not to buy.
 
Kepler said:
Remember that at the end of the day we have the power to fix this country, completely legally. We do the work and more importantly we consume the goods. A strong consumer union and the strategic employment of consumer boycotts and strikes, backed up by voting, can rescue democracy from the plutes. We are the economy. The Nazis can't kill us without killing themselves. We only need to understand that we have the only power that matters now: the power not to buy.
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I agree but...

The whole scenario reminds me of this quote "those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

I only hope Americans would start reading more as a whole and developing more critical thinking skills.

I don't want to live in the dystopia described so brilliantly by Orwell, Kafka, G. Carlin and Bill Hicks.
 
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solovsfett said:
I agree but...

The whole scenario reminds me of this quote "those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

I only hope Americans would start reading more as a whole and developing more critical thinking skills.

I don't want to live in the dystopia described so brilliantly by Orwell, Kafka, G. Carlin and Bill Hicks.
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Too late. People will believe anything rather than critically think. Look at what we have in the White House. If people are [fill in the correct derisive word] to think that is a good idea there is no help for it.
 
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solovsfett said:
I agree but...

The whole scenario reminds me of this quote "those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

I only hope Americans would start reading more as a whole and developing more critical thinking skills.

I don't want to live in the dystopia described so brilliantly by Orwell, Kafka, G. Carlin and Bill Hicks.
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These violent delights have violent ends.
 
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Mail-in voting is apparently a Democratic conspiracy to assure them winning elections.

At least according to every conservative in Anchorage AK.
 
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