Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

[joecct]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

Maybe its because the training center is in the middle of nowhere?

For the record, it was pointed out to me yesterday that the schools were not in favor of being in the boondocks and the committee was relaying their concerns.

 

[Birdwatcher]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

Maybe its because the training center is in the middle of nowhere?

For the record, it was pointed out to me yesterday that the schools were not in favor of being in the boondocks and the committee was relaying their concerns.

When you live in this area, Old Military Road, is really not considered the middle of nowhere!

 

[joecct]

When you live in this area, Old Military Road, is really not considered the middle of nowhere!

It's the shortcut to Potsdam. Took it a lot back in the day.

But outside of the trees, what is within a 15 minute walk?

 

[Birdwatcher]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

It's the shortcut to Potsdam. Took it a lot back in the day.

But outside of the trees, what is within a 15 minute walk?

Although you feel secluded, it is probably less than a fifteen minute walk from the Olympic Arena and even closer to some restaurants: http://www.yellowpages.com/lake-placid-ny/mip/us-olympic-training-center-3273090

 

[Hello]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

D3 Women likely to combine with D1 Women in the near future. Their respective Championships held same weekend and makes perfect sense to do so.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

D3 Women likely to combine with D1 Women in the near future. Their respective Championships held same weekend and makes perfect sense to do so.

I know it's been discussed in length and I'd be for it as a one-year trial, but I also hope the D3 women's committee strongly looks at the Lake Placid option for the following year combining with the men, allowing conferences time to plan their schedules accordingly so that the season could be pushed back one week without much interruption.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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I'm really on the fence with this one, and like Prez said go ahead and try it for a year, but keep Lake Placid as a great alternative. I don't think you will get the support like you do in say the Lacrosse Championships. I have a feeling the DIII teams will be treated and seen as the little Mite team playing between periods at an AHL game. You know, that good excuse to get up and use the restrooms and grab a burger. Then again if the NCAA implements this "no re-entry" policy like at Lewiston and sandwich the DIII game between the DI games, maybe.

Just like when they tried combining the men's, Philly would be "okay", Boston for sure, but Tampa Florida? Anaheim California? What happens when the girls go to St. Charles, Mo? A lot of DIII teams around there. You have a hard enough time getting fans to go watch the women's teams at their own home rink, now let's make them travel hundreds of miles away?

The positives for a combined DIII men's and women's weekend outweigh the combined DI/DIII women's weekend by far. The only major positive for DI/DIII is ALL the suit and ties of the NCAA get to have their dinners and drinks together. All those high ranking ego's, I mean people, together at once. Imagine all the good things they can come up with.

 

[bakdraft21]

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I'm really on the fence with this one, and like Prez said go ahead and try it for a year, but keep Lake Placid as a great alternative. I don't think you will get the support like you do in say the Lacrosse Championships. I have a feeling the DIII teams will be treated and seen as the little Mite team playing between periods at an AHL game. You know, that good excuse to get up and use the restrooms and grab a burger. Then again if the NCAA implements this "no re-entry" policy like at Lewiston and sandwich the DIII game between the DI games, maybe.

Just like when they tried combining the men's, Philly would be "okay", Boston for sure, but Tampa Florida? Anaheim California? What happens when the girls go to St. Charles, Mo? A lot of DIII teams around there. You have a hard enough time getting fans to go watch the women's teams at their own home rink, now let's make them travel hundreds of miles away?

The positives for a combined DIII men's and women's weekend outweigh the combined DI/DIII women's weekend by far. The only major positive for DI/DIII is ALL the suit and ties of the NCAA get to have their dinners and drinks together. All those high ranking ego's, I mean people, together at once. Imagine all the good things they can come up with.

Now THAT would be a serious smokiyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy room

 

[OSU2010]

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I'm really on the fence with this one, and like Prez said go ahead and try it for a year, but keep Lake Placid as a great alternative. I don't think you will get the support like you do in say the Lacrosse Championships. I have a feeling the DIII teams will be treated and seen as the little Mite team playing between periods at an AHL game. You know, that good excuse to get up and use the restrooms and grab a burger. Then again if the NCAA implements this "no re-entry" policy like at Lewiston and sandwich the DIII game between the DI games, maybe.

Just like when they tried combining the men's, Philly would be "okay", Boston for sure, but Tampa Florida? Anaheim California? What happens when the girls go to St. Charles, Mo? A lot of DIII teams around there. You have a hard enough time getting fans to go watch the women's teams at their own home rink, now let's make them travel hundreds of miles away?

The positives for a combined DIII men's and women's weekend outweigh the combined DI/DIII women's weekend by far. The only major positive for DI/DIII is ALL the suit and ties of the NCAA get to have their dinners and drinks together. All those high ranking ego's, I mean people, together at once. Imagine all the good things they can come up with.

Idk I can see some positives to having FF in areas where there arne't DIII programs, there are alot of division III schools that have hockey programs out west (true west) but they don't have hockey programs because they're too far from the competition so they play ACHA, if we were to expand our reach I could see a new western division forming and the current western division becoming mid-west

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Idk I can see some positives to having FF in areas where there arne't DIII programs, there are alot of division III schools that have hockey programs out west (true west) but they don't have hockey programs because they're too far from the competition so they play ACHA, if we were to expand our reach I could see a new western division forming and the current western division becoming mid-west

Stevenson in Maryland calls your bluff...they've had a women's team for two years and no one will take them...

 

[NUProf]

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The Norwich men stayed the night and left the next day all three years that they lost in the Semifinals.

I'm glad to hear that. I guess what I heard was unsubstantiated rumors, and I'm glad to hear that and apologize for buying into such statements.

 

[NUProf]

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Idk I can see some positives to having FF in areas where there arne't DIII programs, there are alot of division III schools that have hockey programs out west (true west) but they don't have hockey programs because they're too far from the competition so they play ACHA, if we were to expand our reach I could see a new western division forming and the current western division becoming mid-west

That is something that I would love to see. Any expansion of DIII hockey would be a good thing.

There aren't a lot of DIII schools between the big river (Miss) and the Rockies. Many, Many years ago I taught at Nebraska Wesleyan in Lincoln, NE which, because of their isolation in the DIII world was allowed to be a NCAA/NAIA dual member (and now is the only school with that status). Because of their isolation and the problem finding DIII football games so they joined an NAIA league and are allowed to be in the NAIA football post-season, while being in the NCAA as a Pool B candidate in every other sport. NWU used to play football every year with CC, which became CC's shortest football road trip against a DIII school. Before I left NWU in 1980 to go to Norwich, there was discussion about adding hockey as a varsity sport at NWU, because Lincoln was kind of a hockey-starved area. When UNO added DI hockey later on that kinds of ended that talk.


CC dropped football because of the travel expenses. They were in a football conference which consisted of CC and a bunch of schools in the Southeast.

Farther West - in Washington, Oregon, and California there are a number of DIII schools that could play DIII hockey.