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College Football 2025

How do you root for either of these two schools?

One would think you go for the more underdog Mississippi. But then you remember that this school is in a state that still celebrates being part of the confederacy. as represented by the school's mascot- the rebels. You know, the losers of the rebellion. All the while being proud of being part of a rebellion just to keep slavery alive and kicking. Is it better that they use an SNL meme as their mascot now? And somehow you are supposed to feel for them that their head coach bailed on them for greener grass. What is going on at that school that your head coach feels that he has a better chance at a different SEC school? Something seems wrong there. Not that I think it was a good thing for Kiffen- this whole thing is a mess and he still comes across as a POS. But I don't really see it as the school being abandoned- they had to contribute to it given the chance to win the NC this season.

Then you have Georgia. Who is all that is left to hold up the SEC hype train, since few seem to want to use Mississippi for that purpose.

Oddly enough, all I can hope for is that Miami rips them next week. Either one. In a manner close to how Indiana ripped 'bama a bigger hole.
 
I spent a week in GA and it was pleasant.

The only time I've been in MS was a high school train trip from Chicago to New Orleans and it was delayed by 20 hours. NO was great, the travel not so much.
 
Bronco said:
I spent a week in GA and it was pleasant.
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Savannah is one of the 10 most lovely towns I have ever been in, worldwide.

https://youtu.be/7oqiSCn1r7U

Fun fact: a couple miles from those idyllic squares, the waterfront in Savannah is (or was) a lawless East Asian entrepot. I visited in the 80s and it felt like you might wake up in the hold of a Turkish cruiser shanghaied 78 miles off the coast for a 3-year bid.

My preferred teams won all three games today. I still haven't seen a snap of non-Ivy football this year.

My heart is 100% with Indiana.
 
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Seeing that Mississippi's path is getting tougher because of the Kiffen debacle- it should be Miami v Indiana in Arizona.

They are losing assistants who planed to follow him to LSU.

Here's what I think about that- Mississippi has problems AND Kiffen is a POS. There's clearly no one bad side here.

And here's why- look at Michigan- from a historical basis (and a current economic one) Michigan is a better job than Indiana, right? But when Michigan's job opened up suddenly, all of the thoughts that Cignetti would get that job ended almost immediately. Why? Because (IMHO) Indiana figured out what was wrong and fixed it to get Curt- and probably any other "issues" that may have swayed him other than money were dealt with- so staying there was far more appealing than moving to Michigan. And I think that is great.

Whereas LSU being better than OldMiss stayed there. And Kiffen was really quick to jump, even though LSU has sucked for a long time, whereas Mississippi have gotten better in the same time period. How can LSU give him that much more money than a winning Old Miss school give him? To me that suggests that there's a lot more going on behind the scenes at MS that really sucks. And we all know that Kiffen is, historically, a POS.

I know there's some disasters that are still going on here at Ann Arbor- but I've seen multiple times that the coaches don't really care. But I really think it says something about Indiana that they secured Cignetti so very quicky for a long time. And as much as I would really like Cignetti here, I have to very much applaud Indiana for that. Good for them and hope they replace PSU as the 3rd team in the hypothetical B1G east.
 
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Indiana has Mark Cuban money and Cig isn't a jack bag like Kiffen.
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I don't question Indiana- and congratulate them for finding those kind of resources in a program that has the 2nd most losses. One hell of a turnaround. I really think it's good for Michigan to have to play and compete with them.

What I don't get- for all of the hype of the SEC, why can't Old Miss match LSU? Especially when one has had a long consistent rise, and the other has been down except for one season. You would think that supporters for the rebels would be piling up, but apparently they are not. Combine that with a POS kiffen, and we get this result.

So I still think it's a combination of the character of Kiffen and the situation in Mississippi.
 
I also have to express some real frustrations with some Michigan fans. So many of them are in the "woulda, coulda, shoulda" camp. Which is more a sign of hating a DEI hire- which many hated at the time. And we all know what bashing DEI really means.

Given the choice between an assistant coach who beat PSU and OSU very nicely and really was a key part of winning a championship thanks to all of the BS going on vs. a head coach of James Madison- there's no way that Cignetti was a realistic comparison BACK THEN. Sure, he was a Saban off shoot, but his HC job started fairly late, and he came up through the lower ranks- making it complicated to decide. Vs an assistant that the team loved and who had done well. Give me a break.

In hind sight, the whole affair thing was the ONLY thing that should have held him back- and it should have, I get that. But as fans, we had no idea about it. I never saw any suggestions that he was a problem like that- so other than getting on the AD for not being thorough- we, as fan, have no real thing to complain about. Sure, the outcomes were totally different- Cignetti did what Sharrone was supposed to do with "lesser" talent. But nobody knew that at the beginning of 2024 other than Manuel with the affair thing.
 
MichVandal said:
Given the choice between an assistant coach who beat PSU and OSU very nicely and really was a key part of winning a championship thanks to all of the BS going on vs. a head coach of James Madison- there's no way that Cignetti was a realistic comparison BACK THEN.
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Ahh, but he's a winner. You can Google it.
 
Lane Kiffin is just the Family Guy scene with the mystery box.

LSU: "You can have the playoff bid, or... the mystery box!"
Rational Person: "What are you, crazy? We'll take the playoff bid"
Kiffin: "Not so fast! A playoff bid is a playoff bid, but the mystery box could be anything. It could even be a playoff bid!"
 
MichVandal said:
Whereas LSU being better than OldMiss stayed there. And Kiffen was really quick to jump, even though LSU has sucked for a long time, whereas Mississippi have gotten better in the same time period. How can LSU give him that much more money than a winning Old Miss school give him? To me that suggests that there's a lot more going on behind the scenes at MS that really sucks. And we all know that Kiffen is, historically, a POS.
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You're way over complicating the Kiffin decision. He is just a flatout POS. It's as simple as that. Don't overanalyze it.
 
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