College Football 2016-17: Destination Tampa

[SJHovey]

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McSorely really telegraphed his passes, especially during that last INT. Literally just looked right where he was going to throw it the whole time. Easy pickings for the safety.

Which is so odd. You'd think Penn State, of all schools, would know how to recruit kids that can look the other way for a while.

Too soon.

 

[theprofromdover]

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McSorely really telegraphed his passes, especially during that last INT. Literally just looked right where he was going to throw it the whole time. Easy pickings for the safety.

Which is so odd. You'd think Penn State, of all schools, would know how to recruit kids that can look the other way for a while.

Well played. Screw Pedd State.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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This is why we can't have nice things.

Minnesota fires Tracy Claeys.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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It also looks like player abuser Kevin Wilson may be the new OC at OSU.

 

[St. Clown]

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This is why we can't have nice things.

Minnesota fires Tracy Claeys.

Wasn't this his first year as head coach?

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Wasn't this his first year as head coach?

Kind of his second. Six games or so last year and a full 13 this year.

 

[St. Clown]

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Kind of his second. Six games or so last year and a full 13 this year.

Two bowl games. How horrible for the uber successful Gopher program!

His firing probably has to do with taking his players' side after initially coming out in favor of the admin.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Two bowl games. How horrible for the uber successful Gopher program!

His firing probably has to do with taking his players' side after initially coming out in favor of the admin.

I don't know if he ever came out in support of the suspended players or in favor of the admin. He came out in support of the team's decision to boycott the bowl before any of them had the full report.

 

[trixR4kids]

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I don't know if he ever came out in support of the suspended players or in favor of the admin. He came out in support of the team's decision to boycott the bowl before any of them had the full report.

Which was a pretty dumb decision you have to admit...

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Which was a pretty dumb decision you have to admit...

Absolutely it was dumb. But fireable? Even before the game the players and likely the recruits had the perception the school didn't support any of them. After this? Yikes.

In the long run, this might be for the best, however, it doesn't look great right now.

 

[Almington]

Absolutely it was dumb. But fireable? Even before the game the players and likely the recruits had the perception the school didn't support any of them. After this? Yikes.

In the long run, this might be for the best, however, it doesn't look great right now.

Dear Penn State

This is how you maintain institutional control over your athletic department.

The rest of the Big Ten

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Dear Penn State

This is how you maintain institutional control over your athletic department.

The rest of the Big Ten

im with you
There are more important things than winning football games in the short term.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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im with you
There are more important things than winning football games in the short term.

The two are hardly comparable. In one, you have a coach and administration that actively hid child abuse for decades. Again, the coach was actively involved in covering it up. In another, you have a coach who knew only what the police reports had with no cover-ups or anything.

The clean-up took place with the suspensions of the players.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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The two are hardly comparable. In one, you have a coach and administration that actively hid child abuse for decades. Again, the coach was actively involved in covering it up. In another, you have a coach who knew only what the police reports had with no cover-ups or anything.

The clean-up took place with the suspensions of the players.

Is it not Claeys' culture that allowed something like this to happen? And the fact that he supported his players in boycotting his boss' decision without looking further into the situation after he had already told the AD he supported the suspensions. A coach needs to be responsible for more than just on the field. I for one am glad that some school cared more about cleaning up this mess than worrying about the fact that Claeys had done a decent job on the field.
Just because it wasn't decades of cover ups doesn't mean this wasn't a serious matter that deserved a public statement like cleaning house with the coaching staff.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Claeys only offense was calling out his bosses' BS. They claimed he suspended the players and he called them on it.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Claeys only offense was calling out his bosses' BS. They claimed he suspended the players and he called them on it.

maybe he should have been shown the report so he could suspend them himself...If he read that thing and decided not to suspend them himself, he definitely deserves to be fired...

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Or he couldn't read the report due to privacy laws.

As an aside, let me be explicitly clear. I don't support any of the actions of the ten players, I wasn't a fan of the boycott, and I believe the ten players should have all been given the boot given what we know now. The actions and the coverup by the players was enough for them to be expelled immediately, and they were.

My soft support for Claeys is because he handled this about as well as he could have given the asinine bungling of this entire scandal by the administration. The lack of communication, the lies by Kaler and Coyle, and the total lack of transparency (or as much as is allowed by privacy laws). This has nothing to do with on-the-field performance as I'd feel the same if he was a crap coach getting the runaround.

The administration should have fired him weeks ago if this was the route they were going to take. Rumors on GPL (and I trust the source) indicate the U knew they were going to do this before the bowl game. But instead of having the balls to do this before the game, they lost all credibility and waited until after. If they were doing this on principle, he wouldn't have coached that game.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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The administration should have fired him weeks ago if this was the route they were going to take. Rumors on GPL (and I trust the source) indicate the U knew they were going to do this before the bowl game. But instead of having the balls to do this before the game, they lost all credibility and waited until after. If they were doing this on principle, he wouldn't have coached that game.

That is a fair assessment.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I take part of the "before the bowl game" back. I went back and read the GPL post for myself. Looks like it was after the bowl game he posted this. Shame on me I guess for not confirming what I was told.

That being said, I still believe they had to know they were going this route before the bowl game. Which is what I have a problem with.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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maybe he should have been shown the report so he could suspend them himself...If he read that thing and decided not to suspend them himself, he definitely deserves to be fired...

Actually, I agree with this. Completely.