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College Football 2015-16: The Big Ten Rises

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Right, but OSU didn't play a more difficult schedule. Iowa barely eked them out.

Then it comes down to margin of victory, which Iowa wasn't known for blowing out its opponents this year while tOSU had some pretty big wins earlier in the year. After that, I wouldn't doubt if one of the unofficial criteria is which school has the bigger named coach. Urban Meyers > Kirk Firenze (or however those names are spelled).
 
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I thought I would want them to expand to 8 to be like DII or FCS football but after this second year I think that would be a mistake. It already bothers me that the bowl games are not historically like they normally have been. Small thing to complain about but I'm a traditionalist.

Four times is just the right number because 8 teams would make it less exciting and draw out the bowl games even more. Now I think it could happen because it would increase the TV contract in the future, but that's about the only reason.
This may surprise you -- particularly because my team wound up at #7 this time around -- but I agree with you completely. I really like that the four team playoff creates a field of conference champions. I'm coming to believe that adding wild cards would actually detract from the tournament.

For example, MSU shouldn't be facing a potential rematch with either OSU or Iowa. They won the right to represent the B1G in the Playoff. For 2015, the B1G pecking order has been settled. Both the Hawkeyes and Buckeyes came close, but didn't get it done. IMHO, there's no reason we should be given the opportunity to "earn a split."

And BTW, Hockey and Basketball are fundamentally different. For them it's normal to play multiple games against an opponent during the same season. Playing an additional game on a winner-take-all basis doesn't bother me in those sports. Well, as long as it's not a first round match-up.;)

...I don't like how the Rose Bowl is potentially a game without a Big Ten and PAC 12 team. I'm very much a traditionalist.
Amen.

Whew- looks like Iowa will go play Stanford in Pasadena.

Wonder if Iowa will patch up that run game D enough for Stanford. That should be a good one.
It will be, and I plan to watch. And be just a little jealous. Great Pac12 vs. B1G match-up. Playoff or not, the Rose Bowl will always be cool.

But you know what? The Committee and the Rose Bowl got it right. Iowa earned it. They gave MSU a better game than we did. Had the Spartans won in a blow-out, I'd say that Stanford/OSU would have been the right call for the Rose Bowl. But as we all know, the game in Indy couldn't have been closer.

And Notre Dame vs. OSU. That will be interesting, but I'm hoping to miss that game attending another one.
Oh, that.

There is a downside to the four team playoff, and this brings it into focus. Even though I thought OSU's final ranking was 100% fair, I experienced our bowl assignment as a letdown. Couldn't muster any reaction beyond a shrug.

In my head, I know that's just wrong.:( Back in the 90's when we had a home and home series with ND, I was hugely excited for those games from the moment they were announced. Same thing for the OSU/ND Fiesta Bowl from a decade ago. And yes, when New Years' 2016 rolls around, I will find a way to care and be more engaged. But at the irrational, emotional level: Right now the 2016 Fiesta feels like another one of the countless runner-up bowls that maybe shouldn't be played.

And to bring my comment full circle, this last factor may help push us down the path to an 8 team playoff. More games that "count" would create a lot of additional interest. Add in the enhanced TV money and it may prove to be an irresistible combination.
 
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Yeah as much as I want to say that 8 teams would be better, someone else on here mentioned it would make OOC schedules even worse since teams would only have to try in the conference schedules, since a CC would get them in automatically. Then again, I guess a tough OOC schedule wouldn't hurt them there either. I guess the only way an OOC schedule would matter would be for a wild card team, and then there'd probably be the same battle between SoS and number of losses, so it would just push the same debate from the top 4 to the wild cards. Who knows?
 
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I remember you posting that here, so I went there to check in case I strike it out in our allotment. Doesn't look like it as of now.

FYI I'm hearing it isn't working so well this time, but I don't know the details: http://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/word-of-advice-from-a-spartan-on-tickets.69932/ I think this time Stanford is giving more priority to non-season-ticket holding alums rather than just opening the remaining amount to anyone willing to eat the deposit for the following season. Best of luck, though, even though I think you guys will definitely have the numbers crowd-wise.
 
FYI I'm hearing it isn't working so well this time, but I don't know the details: http://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/word-of-advice-from-a-spartan-on-tickets.69932/ I think this time Stanford is giving more priority to non-season-ticket holding alums rather than just opening the remaining amount to anyone willing to eat the deposit for the following season. Best of luck, though, even though I think you guys will definitely have the numbers crowd-wise.

Thankfully I've got a few connections who have had tickets 30 years, I actually should end up with good seats the way it sounds. We might have to have a beer out there if you'll be making the trip.
 
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Correction on that, another 15 min of two games. Geez. There are more teams out there than 4.

Better yet, if you need to say something you haven't thought of already- maybe you should find another job. You've had 3.5 HOURS to talk.

They got you to watch, didn't they?
 
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I am not sure how the Gophers can accept the game with the Central Michigan Chippewas. There athletic department policy prohibits them from playing against teams with hostile and abusive nicknames unless it is a conference game.
 
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I am not sure how the Gophers can accept the game with the Central Michigan Chippewas. There athletic department policy prohibits them from playing against teams with hostile and abusive nicknames unless it is a conference game.

Easy. $$$$$
 
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Easy. $$$$$

The Gophers are going to lose money on this game. It won't be a huge amount of money, but it'll be a net loss. They won't sell many tickets because fans won't want to travel to Detroit to watch them play CMU. It's like a pre-B1G season game, not a bowl-caliber game.
 
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The Gophers are going to lose money on this game. It won't be a huge amount of money, but it'll be a net loss. They won't sell many tickets because fans won't want to travel to Detroit to watch them play CMU. It's like a pre-B1G season game, not a bowl-caliber game.

Doesn't all Big Ten bowl money get added to a pot and then redistributed equally?
 
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The NCAA finds every Native American nickname hostile.

No, it doesn't. If the local Native Americans approved continued usage of the nickname, or the Native Americans are no longer in existence (Illini) then the NCAA allowed the universities to keep their names. UND was simply too hostile and abusive to be permitted continuation of using their nickname.
 
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No, it doesn't. If the local Native Americans approved continued usage of the nickname, or the Native Americans are no longer in existence (Illini) then the NCAA allowed the universities to keep their names. UND was simply too hostile and abusive to be permitted continuation of using their nickname.


Either Indian names are ALL offensive or they aren't. Not sure why it's a pick and choose.
 
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That and the local tribes were appeased. Probably with money.

There are very few Seminole still living in Florida, as most of them were given the Trail of Tears treatment, so they would be relatively cheap (aggregate, not individually) to persuade into allowing FSU's nickname to stand. More to the point, the NCAA was probably appeased with monetary promises, too.
 
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