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College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
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bronconick
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
A&M hadn't officially applied then. The SEC basically rejected the idea of offering an invitation because they don't want to deal with lawsuits.
A&M hadn't officially applied then. The SEC basically rejected the idea of offering an invitation because they don't want to deal with lawsuits.
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
On a side note it will be interesting to see how all these conferences shake out. I have a hard time picturing all these mega conferences. But I am a "believe it when I see it" kind of guy.
Oh that is right. A few weeks ago they rejected giving them an invitation. But A&M applied now and was accepted.
On a side note it will be interesting to see how all these conferences shake out. I have a hard time picturing all these mega conferences. But I am a "believe it when I see it" kind of guy.
Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
It's interesting how the Big 12 Commissioner apparently sent the SEC or A&M a letter just a few days earlier, stating that there were no impediments to A&M joining the SEC or something to that effect. Did he do that without the approval of all these member schools that now seem to have an issue, or was there a last minute change of heart by Baylor and company? The Big 12 gets wobblier by the day. I'm really hoping we don't get all those Big 12 teams in the Pac, as then our Arizona teams get stuck in a division with all the new Big 12 teams, which are teams there is no history with or aren't in the same region. Not to mention it'll be hard to ever win much of anything if you have to go through Texas and Oklahoma and Oklahoma State every year. Mike Stoops down in Tucson is already moaning about the possibility of the Wildcats ending up in such a division.
It's interesting how the Big 12 Commissioner apparently sent the SEC or A&M a letter just a few days earlier, stating that there were no impediments to A&M joining the SEC or something to that effect. Did he do that without the approval of all these member schools that now seem to have an issue, or was there a last minute change of heart by Baylor and company? The Big 12 gets wobblier by the day. I'm really hoping we don't get all those Big 12 teams in the Pac, as then our Arizona teams get stuck in a division with all the new Big 12 teams, which are teams there is no history with or aren't in the same region. Not to mention it'll be hard to ever win much of anything if you have to go through Texas and Oklahoma and Oklahoma State every year. Mike Stoops down in Tucson is already moaning about the possibility of the Wildcats ending up in such a division.
bronconick
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Top 25+ hockey school games this week.
Thursday
Arizona @ (9) Oklahoma State
Friday
(21) Missouri @ Arizona State
Saturday
Florida Atlantic @ (17) Michigan State
Toledo @ (15) Ohio State
Oregon State @ (8) Wisconsin
San Diego State @ Army
(16) Mississippi State @ Auburn
Norfolk State @ (19) West Virginia
Maine @ Pitt
(6) Stanford @ Duke
(3) Alabama @ (23) Penn State
(25) TCU @ Air Force
(11) Virginia Tech @ East Carolina
Nevada @ (13) Oregon
New Mexico State @ Minnesota
(12) South Carolina @ Georgia
North Dakota @ Idaho
Charleston Southern @ (5) Florida State
UAB @ (18) Florida
Nicholls State @ Western Michigan
Ball State @ (22) South Florida
BYU @ (24) Texas
Fresno State @ (10) Nebraska
Morgan State @ Bowling Green
New Mexico @ (14) Arkansas
Connecticut @ Vanderbilt
Boston College @ Central Florida
Notre Dame @ Michigan
Northwestern State @ (2) LSU
New Hampshire @ Lehigh
Colgate @ Holy Cross
Top 25+ hockey school games this week.
Thursday
Arizona @ (9) Oklahoma State
Friday
(21) Missouri @ Arizona State
Saturday
Florida Atlantic @ (17) Michigan State
Toledo @ (15) Ohio State
Oregon State @ (8) Wisconsin
San Diego State @ Army
(16) Mississippi State @ Auburn
Norfolk State @ (19) West Virginia
Maine @ Pitt
(6) Stanford @ Duke
(3) Alabama @ (23) Penn State
(25) TCU @ Air Force
(11) Virginia Tech @ East Carolina
Nevada @ (13) Oregon
New Mexico State @ Minnesota
(12) South Carolina @ Georgia
North Dakota @ Idaho
Charleston Southern @ (5) Florida State
UAB @ (18) Florida
Nicholls State @ Western Michigan
Ball State @ (22) South Florida
BYU @ (24) Texas
Fresno State @ (10) Nebraska
Morgan State @ Bowling Green
New Mexico @ (14) Arkansas
Connecticut @ Vanderbilt
Boston College @ Central Florida
Notre Dame @ Michigan
Northwestern State @ (2) LSU
New Hampshire @ Lehigh
Colgate @ Holy Cross
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Yes. Baylor and Iowa State changed their minds after Oklahoma made noises about going to the Pac-12. For some reason those schools thought that once A&M followed Nebraska and Colorado the conference would be fine and teams would stop leaving. They have been incredibly naive. Gregory Geoffroy and Ken Starr are a little like Neville Chamberlain standing there waving a piece of paper and promising that after A&M left the Big XII-3 would finally have peace. They've woken up a little quicker than the Brits and French, but still way too late in this game of musical chairs. Those two schools will find themselves standing in a corner watching other teams get invited to conferences that count. Conference-USA or the WAC is their future.
Yes. Baylor and Iowa State changed their minds after Oklahoma made noises about going to the Pac-12. For some reason those schools thought that once A&M followed Nebraska and Colorado the conference would be fine and teams would stop leaving. They have been incredibly naive. Gregory Geoffroy and Ken Starr are a little like Neville Chamberlain standing there waving a piece of paper and promising that after A&M left the Big XII-3 would finally have peace. They've woken up a little quicker than the Brits and French, but still way too late in this game of musical chairs. Those two schools will find themselves standing in a corner watching other teams get invited to conferences that count. Conference-USA or the WAC is their future.
Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Alabama and Penn State on Saturday, but getting here from the south and east could be a pain, if not impossible. Rte. 22/322, the main highway from Harrisburg to Happy Valley, was closed today at the Susquehanna River northwest of Harrisburg.
If you can get here, parking and tailgating on grass fields around Beaver Stadium is being severely curtailed.
Alabama and Penn State on Saturday, but getting here from the south and east could be a pain, if not impossible. Rte. 22/322, the main highway from Harrisburg to Happy Valley, was closed today at the Susquehanna River northwest of Harrisburg.
If you can get here, parking and tailgating on grass fields around Beaver Stadium is being severely curtailed.
bronconick
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
I have my doubts that Beebe's letter on the 2nd to the SEC ever had the authority to bind schools not to sue. I'm not sure if that would be on the SEC's lawyers or the B12 schools, but I'm thinking the former since everyone not named Oklahoma has now refused to waive their rights.
I have my doubts that Beebe's letter on the 2nd to the SEC ever had the authority to bind schools not to sue. I'm not sure if that would be on the SEC's lawyers or the B12 schools, but I'm thinking the former since everyone not named Oklahoma has now refused to waive their rights.
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
According to todays article, Texas and Texas Tech have stated that they have waived their rights.
Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Nope, it just means that they're going to be paid off fairly nicely to go away. Its basically holding TA&M hostage and demanding ransom and a helicopter.
bronconick
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
On top of that, it could just be a delaying tactic. At some point, the SEC will say, fark this, no one's joining in 2012. We'll see in 2013. If Baylor/ISU manages even that, that's one more season in the Big XII getting 10-11 million in TV money instead of 1-2 million in the WAC. Drag it out to next summer when I believe the Texas legislature is back in session and maybe they can suck one more year out before all the stalling runs out on them.
It's not really going to make them any less attractive to a new conference, because they're not getting into anything better than the WAC or if they're really lucky, the MWC. Conference USA has 3 of the 4 teams that were boned by Baylor 15 years ago, so they're blocked there anyway.
So, mostly meaningless lawsuit that A) could get you a small paycheck like the Big East apparently got and maybe a couple home games against SEC schools, plus you may drag the rotting corpse of the conference for another year and make $8 million you wouldn't make otherwise? It's a no brainer.
On top of that, it could just be a delaying tactic. At some point, the SEC will say, fark this, no one's joining in 2012. We'll see in 2013. If Baylor/ISU manages even that, that's one more season in the Big XII getting 10-11 million in TV money instead of 1-2 million in the WAC. Drag it out to next summer when I believe the Texas legislature is back in session and maybe they can suck one more year out before all the stalling runs out on them.
It's not really going to make them any less attractive to a new conference, because they're not getting into anything better than the WAC or if they're really lucky, the MWC. Conference USA has 3 of the 4 teams that were boned by Baylor 15 years ago, so they're blocked there anyway.
So, mostly meaningless lawsuit that A) could get you a small paycheck like the Big East apparently got and maybe a couple home games against SEC schools, plus you may drag the rotting corpse of the conference for another year and make $8 million you wouldn't make otherwise? It's a no brainer.
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
They're due, at most, 1/9 of whatever exit fee there is. Nebraska and Colorado had to pay a big goose egg to leave, so it can't be much (if anything).
They're due, at most, 1/9 of whatever exit fee there is. Nebraska and Colorado had to pay a big goose egg to leave, so it can't be much (if anything).
WeWantMore
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Re: your second paragraph, Baylor is supposedly confident they will be welcomed by the Big East.
Re: your second paragraph, Baylor is supposedly confident they will be welcomed by the Big East.
bronconick
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Seriously, how many teams are going to play in the Big East? They're already at 17 in basketball, which is what they actually care about. You know they'll grab Kansas and Kansas State in about 15 seconds. So, 20? Do they finally split the 8 non-football teams off?
Seriously, how many teams are going to play in the Big East? They're already at 17 in basketball, which is what they actually care about. You know they'll grab Kansas and Kansas State in about 15 seconds. So, 20? Do they finally split the 8 non-football teams off?
MountieBoyOz
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
So I have to root for Ken Starr to prevent college football sinking into anarchy? I guess I'll just throw myself in front of something large and moving at a high rate of speed.
So I have to root for Ken Starr to prevent college football sinking into anarchy? I guess I'll just throw myself in front of something large and moving at a high rate of speed.
bronconick
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Lou Holtz giving a 9/11 themed speech that Notre Dame "demonstrates America's strength."
Seriously, GTFO my TV, you drooling imbecile.
Lou Holtz giving a 9/11 themed speech that Notre Dame "demonstrates America's strength."
Seriously, GTFO my TV, you drooling imbecile.
Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
Maybe I'm stupid, but I haven't seen anything that references what legal argument Baylor and other B12 teams are making (or intend to make). Does A&M have contractual obligations beyond 2011-2012 seasons?
Maybe I'm stupid, but I haven't seen anything that references what legal argument Baylor and other B12 teams are making (or intend to make). Does A&M have contractual obligations beyond 2011-2012 seasons?
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Re: College Football 2011: Enough of realignment and scandals. Gimme Footbaw!
I prefer this earlier exchange with Desmond Howard:
"You are a legend because your team wasn't tough enough to run the ball." Holtz to Desmond
"I'm a legend because your defensive backs weren't coached well enough to stop me." Desmond to Holtz
I prefer this earlier exchange with Desmond Howard:
"You are a legend because your team wasn't tough enough to run the ball." Holtz to Desmond
"I'm a legend because your defensive backs weren't coached well enough to stop me." Desmond to Holtz
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