College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

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Taking digs at the SEC's OOC scheduling is traditional in college football, Must we throw out everything in the race to the super-conferences?

Many traditions are dying. The Oklahoma/Nebraska rivalry that used to produce the Game of the Century of the Week is gone. USC is this close to the death penalty! Someone has to carry on some of the traditions.

Weren't you the one whining and *****ing about the NCAA having nothing to do with the championship game?

The NCAA was a great and wonderful organization until they dropped the hammer on a school he likes. Now they're evil incarnate.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Well he is at work and I am unemployed so I figured I would try and help him out a bit

I don't think Kansas would be a detriment either. They wont raise the amount each team makes like a Texas or Notre Dame will, but I dont think the member schools will lose anything should they join. JMHO though.

hahaha, thanks Handy.

regarding it being a groundless assertion, Craig, I think you're completely ignoring the basketball side of the equation. Kansas is one of the premier teams in the nation. The cash they bring in coupled with the football money is amazing.

And let's not forget, if the #11 team in terms of total revenue can't make the cut, the list gets ridiculously short from there. What would Notre Dame bring to the table? Not a whole lot of new households as the BTN already covers that market. Where does notre dame's extra revenue come from?

The other thing you're forgetting, is that with the addition of these teams, the conference can host a championship game that will bring in some serious revenue itself.

It's late, I'm tired, and this reply is probably only half coherent so I'll probably have to clean up the fallout in the morning.

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

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Weren't you the one whining and *****ing about the NCAA having nothing to do with the championship game?

No, I just said that the NCAA doesn't actually regulate any of the bowl games or the BCS and they're not considered NCAA games. I don't actually know the NCAA legislation that allows them to ban teams from the postseason. I figure they have some deal with the bowls themselves that prevent bowls from inviting teams that are banned from participating.

I've always hated the NCAA, even if they got something right with Maine hockey they messed up here. Not just because it was my team...look at the punishments over the year for what happened. If you look at the other punishments, they're making an example of USC, and I never like that crap.

We've also never had a situation like this exactly.

 

[Craig P.]

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The other thing you're forgetting, is that with the addition of these teams, the conference can host a championship game that will bring in some serious revenue itself.

I'm not forgetting that at all. But that only applies for team #12 (the one that gets the Integer over the hump to having a championship game). It doesn't apply to team #13 and team #14.

As far as ND goes... I'm fairly certain we'd raise the value of the ESPN/ABC contract, because that would now have ND's home games in addition to just about all of ND's away games. I don't know that we'd give the BTN the eastern seaboard, but I'd bet we'd go farther to getting them a nice payday in NYC than Rutgers or Syracuse football. Would it be enough to pay for ourselves? I couldn't say, but it's more to the table than KU has. I really think you're overestimating how much basketball matters, but maybe the Big East just hasn't done a good job of selling themselves there.

 

[blockski]

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I'm not forgetting that at all. But that only applies for team #12 (the one that gets the Integer over the hump to having a championship game). It doesn't apply to team #13 and team #14.

As far as ND goes... I'm fairly certain we'd raise the value of the ESPN/ABC contract, because that would now have ND's home games in addition to just about all of ND's away games. I don't know that we'd give the BTN the eastern seaboard, but I'd bet we'd go farther to getting them a nice payday in NYC than Rutgers or Syracuse football. Would it be enough to pay for ourselves? I couldn't say, but it's more to the table than KU has. I really think you're overestimating how much basketball matters, but maybe the Big East just hasn't done a good job of selling themselves there.

Honestly, I don't think the Big Ten will automatically have a championship game, nor do I think championship games are automatic revenue machines. The ACC's certainly hasn't been one, and the SEC's big game still doesn't produce that much revenue once you split it 12 ways.

But yes, you're absolutely right that football is the key. KU's basketball program makes them a decent plan B for the Pac-16 if they don't get one of the schools they want.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Well the NCAA does think it has powers that our Founders didn't give to our Federal government or the State governments...

"No? Re-e-e-e-eally?" asks the Fighting Sioux fan.

 

[Priceless]

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Darren Rovell wonders if expansion is really going to pull in the dough.

 

[amherstblackbear]

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Oh, so the fact that they haven't played a cold weather game since the Kennedy Administration is irrelevant. Sorry. My bad.

Yes, it's also irrelevant. Because Corvallis is not a particularly cold place. Certainly not in September or October. Unless you're upset that USC has never scheduled a game against OrSU in Green Bay in January. TEH COWARDS!

I'm easily riled up by stupidity. And this back-and-forth is invariably stupid. It always goes the same way:

Nyah nyah nyah, SEC schedule *sniffle*

Um, most of the contenders do schedule OOC games

But they're not the right OOC games!

Uhh, no, I guess not. All right. Let's all complain about SEC ADs not being retards. Yay.

 

[Bob Gray]

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The NCAA was a great and wonderful organization until they dropped the hammer on a school he likes. Now they're evil incarnate.

In all fairness, I can't recall the last time I saw anyone on here say something nice about the NCAA.

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

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According to Joe Schad on twitter, Boise State is heading to the Mountain West. Boise, Utah, TCU, BYU... Sounds like a pretty good BCS conference to me.

 

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Darren Rovell:

Hidden cost of expansion: Lincoln, Neb. to State College, Pa. for women's soccer team. 3 flights, 9 hours, at least $20K.

 

[blockski]

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Darren Rovell:

And what's a roadie to Lubbock?

 

[bigmrg74]

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There's no constitutional right to play DI sports, and the NCAA is not the government, and they don't have any obligation to conduct their own investigations in the same way that the government might. The NCAA's member institutions voluntarily agree to be bound by the NCAA's various rules and policies and its processes of enforcing those rules. If they don't like it, they can go play in whatever the west coast equivalent of the NESCAC is.

The GNAC could always use another Football school in their conference. LA is bit of a flight for them, but yeah, at least once they get to a mid-major airport they be able to get to LAX easy. Its not like they're not used to taking flights to Alaska anyways.

Taking digs at the SEC's OOC scheduling is traditional in college football, Must we throw out everything in the race to the super-conferences?

**** right about that. The SEC isn't used to having snowball fights before and after practice.


all goes to show how much of a fool the Big XII and Big East where in regetting the Plus One playoff game.

 

[Priceless]

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And what's a roadie to Lubbock?

Lubbock has an international jetport.

Now, College Station has a small airport, which would probably require you to fly to Dallas before flying to Seattle. A trip to Corvallis or Eugene might require an extra flight (or a long-ass bus ride).

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

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So now the NCAA is allowing other teams to contact USC's juniors and seniors to convince them to leave.

Thanks NCAA! Its one thing to give them the right to transfer, that's fair.

But to give opposing coaches the gift of initiating contact?

What a hypocritical organization.

 

[Bronco]

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So now the NCAA is allowing other teams to contact USC's juniors and seniors to convince them to leave.

Thanks NCAA! Its one thing to give them the right to transfer, that's fair.

But to give opposing coaches the gift of initiating contact?

What a hypocritical organization.

That's certainly nothing like when your coach's lackeys told his recruits to not attend classes at Tennessee so they could go to USC instead.

Welcome to the sleezy side of college football.

 

[alfablue]

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So now the NCAA is allowing other teams to contact USC's juniors and seniors to convince them to leave.

Thanks NCAA! Its one thing to give them the right to transfer, that's fair.

But to give opposing coaches the gift of initiating contact?

What a hypocritical organization.

That's because the current players did nothing wrong- why penalize them...

Now, if they can let the alumni transfer their money without penalties....

(sorry, TBA- I just couldn't resist... )

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

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That's certainly nothing like when your coach's lackeys told his recruits to not attend classes at Tennessee so they could go to USC instead.

Welcome to the sleezy side of college football.

Yes, but when the NCAA actually mandates the sleaziness, its ridiculous.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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Lubbock has an international jetport.

So does Grand Forks and Fargo.

 

[alfablue]

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Omaha paper reports Nebraska accepts invitation to the Big 10...

http://www.omaha.com/article/20100611/SPORTS/306119924/-1#nebraska-to-the-big-ten


So that means the Big 12 stays in tact- once the B10 name is changed to relfect the new size.